Popular Post webfact Posted November 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2021 Thai Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha has instructed the Ministry of Public Health to procure Pfizer’s Paxlovid and Merck’s Molnupiravir COVID-19 treatments, so the country will be among those countries having priority access to the drugs. On Friday, Pfizer announced that its anti-viral medicine Paxlovid reduces the risk of hospitalisation or death by 89 % in clinical trials, in which the drug was tested in adults with the disease and high-risk comorbidities. The drug pending emergency use authorization from the US Food and Drug Administration. Both antiviral medicines attack the coronavirus by interfering with its ability to replicate. On Thursday, the United Kingdom approved the emergency use of Merck’s Molnupiravir. Discover Cigna’s range of health insurance solutions created for expats and local nationals living in Thailand - click to view Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thai-pm-wants-early-procurement-of-mercks-molnupiravir-and-pfizers-paxlovid/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2021-11-06 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 deja vue... they did the same with the vaccines and look where did it get them, last on the line 555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbkk Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 What's happened to the "Enough for 200,000 patients" Molnupiravir that was supposedly discussed in the Thai Cabinet 4 weeks ago? Price? Which countries have secured December 2021 delivery schedules before Thailand? https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/thailand-talks-with-merck-200000-courses-anti-covid-pills-2021-10-04/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck2 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) Prayut's thoughts don't go more than to the end of a table. In genral, it is a good idea to replace the vaccine by pills, if effective. But it has to be appoved by science if effective. But replacing the vaccines by the pills has a lot of consequences. Can the pills against covid replace all the laws and orders concerning the necessary (double) anti-covid vaccines? I.e., if you go to the haircutter, leaving the province or the Thai country, going into the pub or a bar, reducing the distance to the neighbor sitting in a bus, train or anywhere in the publich area??? The list goes on .... and the cheating will do so, too. Officer/police in the airport: "Where is your required vaccination document?" Answer: "Pfizer’s Paxlovid or Merck’s Molnupiravir COVID, don't need the vaccines." Officer: "Show me the pills!" Answer: "Are at home". Officer confused. Everbody can say this (unapproved). And that can (will) reduce the covid pandemie??? I guess , Prayut did not yet think about these consequences in the bureaucracy. Edited November 6, 2021 by puck2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djayz Posted November 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2021 As we have seen in the past, "instructing" and "carrying out" don't always go hand in hand. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Willy Wombat Posted November 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2021 Amazing that everyone under his command is clueless until he orders, instructs, demands them to do something 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted November 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2021 They will attempt to get them for free next by manufacturing themselves 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post poskat Posted November 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2021 I expect we will be soon hearing about the amazing thai researchers/dr.s who have invented Thailovid and Siampirovir pills that cure covid infections, joining the ranks of the thai cures for hiv and ebola that saved the world. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 hour ago, rbkk said: What's happened to the "Enough for 200,000 patients" Molnupiravir that was supposedly discussed in the Thai Cabinet 4 weeks ago? Price? Which countries have secured December 2021 delivery schedules before Thailand? https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/thailand-talks-with-merck-200000-courses-anti-covid-pills-2021-10-04/ More bluster, they only ordered enough for 50,000 people and its does not look like the budget has even been approved yet, this from 3 days ago: The Department of Medical Services has requested a budget for medicines and risk expenses to buy Molnupiravir tablets, Department of Medical Services director-general Dr Somsak Akksilp said on Wednesday. The Budget Bureau is in the process of considering the request, he said. If the Budget Bureau completes consideration of the matter, it will be tabled at a Cabinet meeting tomorrow. The department has ordered a total of 50,000 courses, or 2 million tablets. The drug is expected to arrive in Thailand in January 2022. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40008362 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 My understanding is that the pills are not preventative. They are to alleviate the effects of the virus once infected. So the social measures required are either completely different from the vax measures, or are not required at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke1959 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 I have heard something before...... but there are many commitees, FDA GPO and parliament discussions neede before get approval so in with a bit of luck end of next year they can order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B Good Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Why on Earth does he have to be issuing an instruction to buy a drug that will save lives......what the hell is Anutin doing? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 He needs to appear to be doing something this time in order to call for an early election next year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Thailands PM wants early procurement, I want his early retirement.. You know what happened to want. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 2 hours ago, puck2 said: it is a good idea to replace the vaccine by pills, if effective. But it has to be appoved by science if effective. But replacing the vaccines by the pills has a lot of consequences. Can the pills against covid replace all the laws and orders concerning the necessary (double) anti-covid vaccines? The pills won't replace the vaccine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B Good Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Not quite the panacea it seems to be. Only effective if taken very early during the infection cycle and confirmation that you are infected will require a PCR test which can take too long. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly07 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Stable door still swinging on its hinges??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyhangmon Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Will B Good said: Why on Earth does he have to be issuing an instruction to buy a drug that will save lives......what the hell is Anutin doing? ... 555, Bob the builder? No, I mean Dr. Bob? Sitting on his thumbs most likely, and on both at the same time which I suppose is kind of an achievement as well ... ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Tracy Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 PM is in charge... That man there, order some vaccines. That man there, order some pills.. That man there...sort out the issues in the South...stop the temples and historical artefacts from flooding, oops, from a surfeit of water. that man there...Can't think for themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Used2LuvThailand Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Better make a call to Siam Bioscience, big guy. It's not a pandemic unless the right people are getting their cut. ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 11 hours ago, ukrules said: They will attempt to get them for free next by manufacturing themselves 4 hours ago, Used2LuvThailand said: Better make a call to Siam Bioscience, big guy. It's not a pandemic unless the right people are getting their cut. ???? "Free" is difficult to define in a Thai context....... but I am sure the general will feel obliged to offer the opportunity to SB.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 19 hours ago, Mavideol said: deja vue... they did the same with the vaccines and look where did it get them, last on the line 555 Yes they seek only free donations, and even then it may never happen due to the paperwork being buried on someone's desk while they are out of the office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukKrueng Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 19 hours ago, puck2 said: Officer: "Show me the pills!" Answer: "Are at home". Do you carry pills to treat other illnesses you don't suffer from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Timing is a big issue that renders these drugs only partially useful. Perhaps in an acute pandemic situation they would be very welcome as they might deployed very quickly, and fill the inevitable delays in mass vaccination that younger people in particular have to endure. To be honest, the passive vaccine (ready made antibodies) offered by AZ will be far more effective, as it is both preventative and curative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack61 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 20 hours ago, djayz said: As we have seen in the past, "instructing" and "carrying out" don't always go hand in hand. He is not capable of both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pravda Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Still no moderna for me and wifey paid back in April. Has anyone received first lot yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hioctane Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 20 hours ago, puck2 said: Prayut's thoughts don't go more than to the end of a table. In genral, it is a good idea to replace the vaccine by pills, if effective. But it has to be appoved by science if effective. But replacing the vaccines by the pills has a lot of consequences. Can the pills against covid replace all the laws and orders concerning the necessary (double) anti-covid vaccines? I.e., if you go to the haircutter, leaving the province or the Thai country, going into the pub or a bar, reducing the distance to the neighbor sitting in a bus, train or anywhere in the publich area??? The list goes on .... and the cheating will do so, too. Officer/police in the airport: "Where is your required vaccination document?" Answer: "Pfizer’s Paxlovid or Merck’s Molnupiravir COVID, don't need the vaccines." Officer: "Show me the pills!" Answer: "Are at home". Officer confused. Everbody can say this (unapproved). And that can (will) reduce the covid pandemie??? I guess , Prayut did not yet think about these consequences in the bureaucracy. Nobody, including Prayut, suggested replacing vaccines with pills. After a slow start, he is trying to acquire all the weapons he can against the virus… sooner rather than later. It will take a combination of antivirals and vaccines to control Covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 First thing he needs to do is that the country is 100% vaccinated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koratkarlos Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Did you know that half a pill works as well as the full dose. Amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Hop Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Let’s be honest here, does anyone seriously think that he’s going to pay the $700 per course for your average Somchai when initially he wasn’t willing to pay $15 or less per shot for a decent vaccine? He’ll buy some for himself and his cronies to keep them happy and that will be it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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