‘Joe Ferrari’, six other ex-cops to be prosecuted for murder in fatal torture case

[webfact]

 

The attorney-general has given the greenlight to the prosecution of former Police Colonel Thitisan Uttanaphon, aka “Joe Ferrari”, and six other former police officers on multiple charges, including premediated murder by means of torture, malfeasance in office, illegal detention and coercion.

 

The attorney-general is scheduled to submit the case to the Central Criminal Court for Corruption and Misconduct Cases next week.

 

Commissioner of Central Investigation Bureau Pol Lt-Gen Chiraphop Phuridet told the media on Friday that the charge of premediated murder by means of torture, on which the seven dismissed officers are indicted, marks an important use of such a charge, in accordance with Section 289 (5) of the Penal Code.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/joe-ferrari-six-ex-cops-to-be-prosecuted-for-murder-in-fatal-torture-case/

 

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[Enzian]

Another way this is interesting is that not all of the other six may be vicious criminal minds like Joe himself. One or two could just be lower level hangers on in the force, who happened to be there that night (I assume it was at night). It's deserving of a Dostoevsky novel: what does a stupid young man do when he finds out he is suddenly taking part in a profoundly evil crime by people he sees every day, but it is not something he would ever initiate himself? Or were there others there who saw it starting and left the building? Was there anyone there who said this is wrong? What would you or I do in the young idiot's shoes?

Edited November 12, 2021 by Enzian
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[RichardColeman]

From link : However, under Section 289 (5), the penalty is death, with no imprisonment as a sentencing option, if the accused are convicted by the court, said the commissioner.

 

 

Let's hope so

[Hayduke]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

The attorney-general is scheduled to submit the case to the Central Criminal Court for Corruption and Misconduct Cases next week.

 

Submitting this to the Central Criminal Court doesn’t mean anyone will actually be prosecuted. Once the piles of thick brown envelopes, stacks of heavy pastry boxes, crates of gold and scores of untraceable luxury cars are distributed…..the dedicated guardians of Hi-So justice will make the case magically disappear. Just like it never happened.

 

 

 

Edited November 12, 2021 by Hayduke

[klauskunkel]

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‘Joe Ferrari’, six other ex-cops to be prosecuted for murder in fatal torture case

I'm not going to hold my breath... (sorry, bad pun)

 

[meechai]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

From link : However, under Section 289 (5), the penalty is death, with no imprisonment as a sentencing option, if the accused are convicted by the court, said the commissioner.

 

 

Let's hope so

Most of us & the Thai citizens saw the leaked video.

There is no need for a trial

Let the family members of the victim come in & put a bag on these perps heads & beat them to death

 

PS: Victims family should also get one or two of those Ferrari's ????

Edited November 12, 2021 by meechai

[Excel]

And just think if it hadn't been for a junior cop to have reported this nothing would have changed. Guess the authorities know what goes on

[clivebaxter]

He's not been sacked yet has he? Amazing Thailand!

[Tom Parkinson]

If the junior cop who leaked the video still alive? 

[kwak250]

5 minutes ago, Tom Parkinson said:

If the junior cop who leaked the video still alive? 

Think he needs a wheelbarrow to carry his huge balls around.

 

He deserves a medal.

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The attorney-general has given the greenlight to the prosecution of former Police Colonel Thitisan Uttanaphon, aka “Joe Ferrari”, and six other former police officers on multiple charges, including premediated murder by means of torture, malfeasance in office, illegal detention and coercion.

Lets hope it sticks when it reaches the courtroom.

[RmcaIssan]

40 minutes ago, Tom Parkinson said:

If the junior cop who leaked the video still alive? 

Possibly, last seen taking a boat trip on the Mekong River ... Did it one time myself to Luang Prabang .. one person on the boat called out .."what's that over there ..OMG it is a body !!"

[spidermike007]

This does not mean anything. When was the last time you saw a high ranking franchisee face prison?

 

They are all corrupt beyond imagination. And the level of corruption simply escalates, the further up the food chain you go. They police and army are not expected to be honest, and they are not expected to engage in law enforcement, traffic or public safety, on any level. It is an irrevocably broken and dysfunctional system. Any hyperbole to the contrary, is just a smoke screen, intended to deceive the most naive amongst us.

 

The Anti-Corruption Organization of Thailand (ACT) is one of the most feeble and ineffective of all the tools Prayuth has used to deceive the people into believing that he is fighting corruption. Who was the last high level authority, in the police, immigration, the army, or the active administration they arrested, charged, tried convicted, and sent to prison? Nobody. Zero. Nunca. Nada. Why? Because Prayuth has had a mandate from the beginning to do the very opposite. To protect the elite, the super wealthy who are guilty, those that are connected, and those who are in power.

 

Just think Dark Tao. Just think Red Bull. The list goes on, and on, and on. Only the most naive amongst us believe he or ACT secretary-general Mana Nimitmongkol are sincere about this. 

It barely matters. These guys are above the law. Any and all laws.

 

The only time they are arrested is when it becomes big news, or it is reported internationally, and Thailand gets a ton of egg on it's face. And even then, it normally does not result in a conviction. Very, very few current (not former) police, immigration, customs, cabinet officials, army officials, or administration officials are arrested here, tried, convicted and imprisoned.

 

My guess is it is one of the lowest rates in the world. The corruption here is never ending. And to think that tiny P. came into office with the agenda of cleaning the place up. LOL. About as amusing, and about as sincere as Trump draining the swamp. Nothing ever got cleaned up. If anything, things are filthier under the army, then they were before. 

 

[Iron Tongue]

I think they're going to burn Joe Ferrari to the ground in a show trial.  It'll make the public feel that the law is applied fairly to everyone.

The real reason Joe will "go down" is because he's a commoner and was never one of the real insiders running LoS.  He was just lucky enough to have been promoted into the hierarchy, but he lost all his powerful allies when the video exposing corruption inside the police force was released.

 

[Bangkok Barry]

7 minutes ago, Iron Tongue said:

I think they're going to burn Joe Ferrari to the ground in a show trial.  It'll make the public feel that the law is applied fairly to everyone.

I agree. This case has garnered too much attention to result in anything other than a conviction and very harsh sentence. The 'Red Bull Days' are over. That case, allowing him to escape, created such an uproar that such leniency will never be repeated.

[newnative]

    I'm seeing a problem with the 'premeditated' murder charge.  I wonder if they are using that so the judges have an excuse to acquit--stating that not enough evidence was presented to show premeditation.  So, acquitted on murder and the remaining charges reduced to time served--and out they go.  

[Moonlover]

4 hours ago, clivebaxter said:

He's not been sacked yet has he? Amazing Thailand!

I believe I saw the word 'former' used twice in the article!

[Moonlover]

7 hours ago, Enzian said:

Another way this is interesting is that not all of the other six may be vicious criminal minds like Joe himself. One or two could just be lower level hangers on in the force, who happened to be there that night (I assume it was at night). It's deserving of a Dostoevsky novel: what does a stupid young man do when he finds out he is suddenly taking part in a profoundly evil crime by people he sees every day, but it is not something he would ever initiate himself? Or were there others there who saw it starting and left the building? Was there anyone there who said this is wrong? What would you or I do in the young idiot's shoes?

I cannot agree with that at all. The were all policeman. A policeman has a sworn duty to protect someone's life. Any one of them could and should have stepped in and prevented this murder, or at least made a brave attempt to do so.

 

If one is guilty, then they are all guilty. That, by the way is how a British court would see it.

[marcusb]

Wonder how Izuzu feels about all his photos, he's always got the hat.

[tomacht8]

The case will not be closed for many, many years. There will come a lot of postponements of court appointments, medical certificates of illnesses, applications for bail, personnel changes for judges and public prosecutors, procedural objections and finally the appeal. They probably won't let Joe free again this early, but it will be years before the final, incontestable judgment is passed in the name of the people.

[Enzian]

58 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

I cannot agree with that at all. The were all policeman. A policeman has a sworn duty to protect someone's life. Any one of them could and should have stepped in and prevented this murder, or at least made a brave attempt to do so.

 

If one is guilty, then they are all guilty. That, by the way is how a British court would see it.

I agree with you about what should have happened and how none of them can escape responsibility at this point, but humans are complex and tragic. (And someone did blow the whistle; who was that person and how deeply were they involved?) Speaking of British, consider Conrad's Lord Jim, a decent fellow who in a moment of confusion did an evil thing by deserting his ship when there were passengers on board, and eventually paid for it, but not by a court. Anyway, I hope details about the other six eventually come out, I know some writers who would love it.

[anchadian]

More evidence needed to indict Joe Ferrari, six officers, OAG says

 

The Office of the Attorney General (OAG) announced on Friday that it has not yet issued an order to prosecute Pol Colonel Thitisan Uthanapol and six officers at the police station he headed in Muang Nakhon Sawan.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40008771

[Burma Bill]

8 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

the penalty is death,

Yes indeed, by suffocation with plastic bags??????

[Uroller]

I understand that bail has been set at 2 Ferrari’s????

[Thingamabob]

This is merely a submission to the central criminal court, nothing more. 

[Used2LuvThailand]

It's like a sad version of Lord of the Flies, where the protagonists are running a country with sub-80 IQs.  Imagine being bold enough to do what this guy did, and yet be so stupid to not even know his own office had cameras in it.  If it weren't so tragic, it would be hilarious.

 

And no question this guy will walk...or fall down a flight a stairs 10 times...or 'escape'.

[SpaceKadet]

I am pretty sure that this case will end just like the case of the police officer that killed two British backpackers in Kanchanaburi some years back. He was convicted and sentenced to life in what was really a phony trial, and then everything went very quiet. Wouldn't be surprised if he's out and enjoying his life right now.

 

After all, RTP look after their own. They might be bad boys, but they pay their dues. Literally.

[bendejo]

Well, there's always the Patriot's Defense: "You should have heard what the guy was saying, things that were critical of the powers-that-be.  His denunciations greatly angered me, I love my country so much I couldn't control myself..." etc.

Some years back a U.S. politician was caught getting a bj in his car parked outside of The Capitol.  Something about "love of country" was his excuse, no public indecency charges, no "what about the children!" hysteria. 

 

As we all know, dead men tell no tales.

 

 

Edited November 13, 2021 by bendejo

[kimamey]

On 11/13/2021 at 1:20 AM, kwak250 said:

Think he needs a wheelbarrow to carry his huge balls around.

 

He deserves a medal.

He probably needs protection more than anything else.

 

I seem to remember a few years back a brave guy working in a prison reported wrongdoing he'd seen and he didn't last long.

[anchadian]

UPDATE: The attorney-general has filed the charges with the court today (Monday). The penalty if found guilty is death, not imprisonment. #Thailand #ThailandNews

 

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