HappyExpat57 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 13 hours ago, smedly said: They have to do something and fast, can't keep cramming hundreds of people into treetown every night which is filled to capacity every night, it really is ridiculous This raises the question, is Treetown owned by a BiB, directly or by a proxy? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, stephenterry said: Not only Pattaya, but the whole country businesses should up arms do a bit of digging and you will find bars are open in cities up north - this alcohol ban is targetting only a few cities that generally host foreign tourists 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted November 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said: This raises the question, is Treetown owned by a BiB, directly or by a proxy? no idea but I suspect you are probably right I have been reluctant to mention treetown directly and only hinted in the past but now I am sick to the back teeth of what is going on especially since the place has no room and is now packed every night, all it will take is a couple of hundred new arrivals in Pattaya and this just becomes ridiclulous, there is literally no where else for people to go at night in Pattaya for a beer without the risk of being raided, if this is the governments idea of creating safe covid environments then treetown is one massive failure - it is overcrowded - the tables are dirty - no social distancing - no covid checks - no masks ..............nothing - in the grand scheme of things it is quite shocking what is going on there is allowed which is why I keep saying something needs to change and fast to release the pressure, I am not suggesting it be raided or closed I am suggesting that other venues need to open to relieve the pressure, it cannot go on like this 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 The thicker the envelope the petitions are file with, the fairer the chance of success ....... so make sure that the petitions are written in huge capital letters and dont forget to mention numbers as well .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenterry Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, smedly said: do a bit of digging and you will find bars are open in cities up north - this alcohol ban is targetting only a few cities that generally host foreign tourists You need to consider the larger picture. A few bars opening won't cut the mustard. There has to be a countrywide message to the government from all businesses, not just bars.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 15 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: Only way to do it and keep it up, but will it fall on deaf ears, that is the question ? Wonder if alcohol bans would exist if alcoholic beverages were only sold through state owned stores ...?... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RafPinto Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 If I would own a bar and aren't allowed to open, I would: Go to every bar which is open and openly selling alcohol without serving any food. Make pictures and send to the media and to ChaCha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clivebaxter Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) Mai pen rai, cannabis appears to be on open sale there at coffee shops, so there's progress for you, 1k baht for 4 grams of THC oil ???? Thailand: Is Pattaya Changing? - YouTube Edited November 17, 2021 by clivebaxter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danferguson Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, RafPinto said: If I would own a bar and aren't allowed to open, I would: Go to every bar which is open and openly selling alcohol without serving any food. Make pictures and send to the media and to ChaCha. Of course you would - right up to the point where the guys with baseball bats came to visit your bar. Don't talk such complete <deleted> 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danferguson Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 5 hours ago, riverhigh said: Only 400 signatures? Not good. Just shows a lot of apathy from Pattaya business owners who don't see the big picture. If tourists can't get what they want they will go elsewhere (ie. Phuket, Bangkok). That simple! This will effect hotels. laundrettes, barber shops, convenience stores ... any business that relys on the tourist baht. Just because your business doesn't sell alcohol doesn't mean its not your business and, consequently, no need to get involved in signing the petition. If you are a farang business owner, your visa would propapbly be cancelled pretty quick if you tried to see the big picture and signed this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clivebaxter Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 The pimping business is now run by LINE, better to get into the cannabis market ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skorp13 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 At least do a soft lifting allowing restaurants to sell alcohol with the goal of opening entertainment to follow. Enough is enough already, it's time to open and let people be responsible for themselves! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulikens Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 only 18 months too late. well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackjam Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, skorp13 said: At least do a soft lifting allowing restaurants to sell alcohol with the goal of opening entertainment to follow. Enough is enough already, it's time to open and let people be responsible for themselves! True, waste of time rocking up with 400 signatures on a piece of paper. Need to present a reasonable game plan for a soft/gradual lifting of restrictions , as they are too lazy/dumb to come up with anything constructive. Just easy way out is to say NO. Then they-Governors people- can present it as if it is their idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 16 hours ago, Leaver said: This could make Thailand the gastronomy "hub" of the world. ???? Or even the gastroenteritis hub of the world.......???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 hours ago, smedly said: do a bit of digging and you will find bars are open in cities up north - this alcohol ban is targetting only a few cities that generally host foreign tourists Which is entirely deliberate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 hours ago, RafPinto said: If I would own a bar and aren't allowed to open, I would: Go to every bar which is open and openly selling alcohol without serving any food. Make pictures and send to the media and to ChaCha. You wouldn't survive long with those tactics mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanookmike Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 11/16/2021 at 4:22 PM, champers said: I am hearing that there is a rumour on Facebook that bars will now be allowed to open on 1st December. Walking Street will be cleaned up in readiness. Hearing similar but can't blame ppl for thinking it's all nonsense.. Ndtvi just did a live stream on it though and according to them it looks like it could happen... Something about the bars being reastraunts now, but by name only... Gotta have white lights on and no live music etc. Also socially distancing. ????♂️ Who knows at this point.. I'm leaving it til Jan anyway now and think many others are also.. some even not even considering to travel til songkran 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 57 minutes ago, Sanookmike said: Ndtvi just did a live stream on it 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 11/17/2021 at 5:32 AM, pomchop said: Simple: Hand out big fat envelopes to the cops/politicians and do anything you want. Don't hand out envelopes and stay closed or get raided. It’s ok to open as long as you keep your mask on while drinking and smoking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanookmike Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 3 hours ago, smedly said: 555 I never said it was credible I just stated it happened ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatfarmer Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 23 hours ago, smedly said: hundreds of people all drinking jam ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 21 hours ago, smedly said: do a bit of digging and you will find bars are open in cities up north - this alcohol ban is targetting only a few cities that generally host foreign tourists Do a bit more digging and you will find that they are not "red zones", Chonburi still is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcelV Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Nick Dean is delusional if he really thinks his bars can open in December. Mark my words: it will take way longer before the bars in Pattaya can reopen as actual bars. Mark my froggin words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Taylor Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Its pretty clear for all to see that bar closures have nothing to do with covid and everything to do with the PM wanting bars closed and currently having the power to do so through the emergency decree. Good luck getting those powers back by the way. He might actually believe that alcohol is the source of all evil its kind of hard to know what he really thinks. You cant threaten him with not voting for him next election because no one voted for him in the first place. Civil disobedience might work but would be the last resort. If everyone ignores his alcohol bans there really wouldnt be much he could do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Kevin Taylor said: Its pretty clear for all to see that bar closures have nothing to do with covid and everything to do with the PM wanting bars closed and currently having the power to do so through the emergency decree. Good luck getting those powers back by the way. He might actually believe that alcohol is the source of all evil its kind of hard to know what he really thinks. You cant threaten him with not voting for him next election because no one voted for him in the first place. Civil disobedience might work but would be the last resort. If everyone ignores his alcohol bans there really wouldnt be much he could do. From Nick Dean's ndvi stream last night it seems that the big breweries are the ones applying pressure to the Government. Chang, in particular, have a lot of plans on hold for building new developments in Pattaya, Bangkok and elsewhere. This is through their property division. They have raised funding and need tourists back to start realising plans and getting returns for investors. I don't know how much sway they have but we will likely find out before too long; a matter of days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEBBYB808 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Wait.. didn't these business owners get the memo from the Thai Health department director? Alcohol relaxes the Pharynx and lets covid enter easily. Theres no way they can open bars if he says its true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 19 hours ago, champers said: From Nick Dean's ndvi stream last night it seems that the big breweries are the ones applying pressure to the Government. Chang, in particular, have a lot of plans on hold for building new developments in Pattaya, Bangkok and elsewhere. This is through their property division. They have raised funding and need tourists back to start realising plans and getting returns for investors. I don't know how much sway they have but we will likely find out before too long; a matter of days. Sounds like unsubstantiated nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 On 11/17/2021 at 2:39 PM, PETERTHEEATER said: Or even the gastroenteritis hub of the world.......???? It already is, because what comes out of the politician's mouths here gives me the s#*ts. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 On 11/18/2021 at 11:04 AM, MarcelV said: Nick Dean is delusional if he really thinks his bars can open in December. Mark my words: it will take way longer before the bars in Pattaya can reopen as actual bars. Mark my froggin words! Nick, and Steve from The Triangle Bar, should be careful. If the authorities issue them a restaurant license, they may say it over-rides or voids their bar license, and come January 22 when they want to become a bar again, "Sorry farang. No new bar licenses for Pattaya." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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