People waiting for paid mRNA vaccines asked to get free Pfizer jabs at state facilities

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Public Health Minister, Anutin Charnvirakul

 

Thailand’s Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul is urging unvaccinated people, who are waiting for Pfizer or Moderna vaccines booked with private hospitals, to cancel their bookings and get free jabs of Pfizer vaccine at state vaccination facilities.

 

The minister stressed the urgent need to speed up vaccinations, to reach the target of 100 million doses administered by the end of this month.

 

He made clear, however, that the Public Health Ministry will not negotiate refunds with the Private Hospital Association if they do abandon their bookings now “because it is not the duty of the ministry to do so”, adding that he warned previously that there is no need to make paid-for bookings with private hospitals.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/people-waiting-for-paid-mrna-vaccines-asked-to-get-free-pfizer-jabs-at-state-facilities/

 

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[mokwit]

I met Anutin once. Had a 1 hour meeting with him, albeit long before he was in Government. The fact that I am not saying anything should be telling.

[Chris.B]

"Thailand’s Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul is urging unvaccinated people, who are waiting for Pfizer or Moderna vaccines booked with private hospitals, to cancel their bookings and get free jabs of Pfizer vaccine at state vaccination facilities."

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But the private hospitals won't allow cancellations!

 

Where and when will the Pfizer vaccinations be available?

 

[BritManToo]

10 minutes ago, Chris.B said:

"Thailand’s Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul is urging unvaccinated people, who are waiting for Pfizer or Moderna vaccines booked with private hospitals, to cancel their bookings and get free jabs of Pfizer vaccine at state vaccination facilities."

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But the private hospitals won't allow cancellations!

 

Where and when will the Pfizer vaccinations be available?

 

They were certainly available in Chiang Mai in October and November.

I had my second free Pfizer at Promanada last week.

[4MyEgo]

Cancel our paid for Moderna shots, you are truly a blood-y idiot.

 

This is an attempt to disgrace the private hospital consortium that ordered the vaccines while this government was playing besties with China.

 

Does he realise the paid for Moderna doses are non refundable, is he suggesting a time and day that we can have these jabs for free, yeh, I didn't think so.

 

Every time I see this bozzo, I want to peeuwk !

 

Edited November 24, 2021 by 4MyEgo

[Karma80]

I placed an order with a hospital to hedge my bets. I knew at the time it was likely to be money down the drain and viewed it as insurance.

I am not disappointed.

 

However, this muppet is a joke and would do well to remember why people felt compelled not to rely on the government, and who was the face of that failure.

Edited November 24, 2021 by Karma80

[4MyEgo]

1 minute ago, Karma80 said:

I placed an order with a hospital to hedge my bets. I knew at the time it was likely to be money down the drain and viewed it as insurance.

I am not disappointed.

 

However, this muppet is a joke and would do well to remember that there is only one reason people felt to compelled not to rely on the government.

Best to always hedge your bets with this clown.

 

I would assume you will be using your paid for Moderna shot as a booster some time in the New Year as I hear we will all be needing boosters.

 

March/April is when I will be getting my booster, no disappointment here.

 

[Chris.B]

20 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

He hasn't made it easy for them as his government gave 1.1 million doses of the 1.9 million doses which arrived on the 1st November to the Thai Red Cross before we paying customers could get our paid for doses.

 

560,200 Moderna doses were delivered to Thailand on 1st November not 1.9 million.

Edited November 24, 2021 by Chris.B

[Karma80]

12 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Best to always hedge your bets with this clown.

 

I would assume you will be using your paid for Moderna shot as a booster some time in the New Year as I hear we will all be needing boosters.

 

March/April is when I will be getting my booster, no disappointment here.

 

Yes, spot on. Sadly, I got Sinovac in Phuket at a time when the sandbox was opening. That or nothing, so seems better than nothing..

The booster here was an AZ 20% dose intradermal shot - no thanks. Not that I don't think it wouldn't be effective, but nobody is going to recognize that and it would muck up any chance of a decent booster or revaccination. Not available now anyway.

 

So, the Moderna shot will be a booster if it turns up. Or more likely, as many friends I know here, I will take a trip back home and get vaccinated completely again. Just properly this time.

[Chris.B]

28 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

They were certainly available in Chiang Mai in October and November.

I had my second free Pfizer at Promanada last week.

There is a big difference between the quantity of Pfizer made available for the 60,000 expats through expatvac and the Pfizer needed for millions waiting on the Moderna lists.

[4MyEgo]

10 minutes ago, Chris.B said:

560,200 Moderna doses were delivered to Thailand on 1st November not 1.9 million.

Thx for that, I have edited my previous post having just read an article which backs up you are saying, I must have misread the article I read as the article I jut read said 1.9 million doses by end of the year.

 

Edited November 24, 2021 by 4MyEgo

[ukrules]

I was in a local Bangkok Hospital last week sometime and they had a 'booth' there with Moderna branding on it and about 6 or 7 rows of about 5 seats set up.

 

It looked like they were about to get busy.

[connda]

They can't give them away now?
"Too bad you pay for Moderna, but now come get free Pfizer shot quick-quick?"

Well, then it's not free.  It cost you the opportunity cost of the Moderna vaccine you paid for. 

So the real question becomes - why is Anutin pushing Pfizer?  Cui bono - who benefits?

[Chris.B]

4 minutes ago, connda said:

So the real question becomes - why is Anutin pushing Pfizer?  Cui bono - who benefits?

No it isn't.

 

It is:  When is the Pfizer coming?

 

[Chris.B]

18 minutes ago, ukrules said:

I was in a local Bangkok Hospital last week sometime and they had a 'booth' there with Moderna branding on it and about 6 or 7 rows of about 5 seats set up.

 

It looked like they were about to get busy.

1.4 million doses of Moderna is due by the end of November or early December.

 

Will the Thai Red Cross forgo the Moderna they ordered with the PHA now that Thailand has received 1 million Moderna doses free from the USA?

 

Edited November 24, 2021 by Chris.B

[Digitalbanana]

36 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

March/April is when I will be getting my booster, no disappointment here.

How do you know they will arrive by then? So far THG hospital in Bangkok is processing just the first 10% of paid orders with no schedule for remainder.

[Chris.B]

2 minutes ago, Digitalbanana said:

How do you know they will arrive by then? So far THG hospital in Bangkok is processing just the first 10% of paid orders with no schedule for remainder.

See my post preceding yours.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

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he warned previously that there is no need to make paid-for bookings with private hospitals.

 

Given that the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines have been shown in numerous studies to be the most effective of all the currently available COVID vaccines...

 

Have ANY Thai government purchased Pfizer or Moderna doses actually arrived for use in the government's own free for the public vaccination program as yet??? I don't think so!

 

The original round of Pfizer doses that Thais and farangs could get in recent months was donated by the U.S. government to Thailand. And the current round of Moderna doses was acquired mainly by the Thai Private Hospitals Assn. for dispensing by their member hospitals on a pay for play basis

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAICR, all of the government vaccine acquisitions that have made into into the government's own FREE vaccine distribution program for the public thus far (not counting plans for future deliveries) have been their own locally produced AZ (along with some other foreign AZ donations) and either donated or purchased Sinovac and Sinopharm doses from China.

Edited November 24, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[jerrymahoney]

In June 2021 when the THG/Moderna offer was first made, Thais and non-Thais who wanted Moderna, Pfizer, or J&J were still flying to the mainland  US or Guam JUST to get a 'free' vaccine. So versus that cost and all that would entail, the THG offer seemed a reasonable bet ... and still may work out.

[ikke1959]

okay deal... but you pay me to get the Pfizer for the money I paid to the hospital.....Nobody has a disadvantage ... I have my money back. I am vaccinated for free, the hospital doesn't need to pay back and the unused Moderna can be used to vaccinate children

[Lingba]

Free???????...but they already paid for moderna...will they get their money back???...should I hold my breath?

[mosan]

Well, at least it is not as bad as paying for a house and then getting kicked out! Or someone using your car for a loan - without your knowledge and then it gets repossessed... 

[4MyEgo]

1 hour ago, Digitalbanana said:

How do you know they will arrive by then? So far THG hospital in Bangkok is processing just the first 10% of paid orders with no schedule for remainder.

I know the BKH in our area is doing the next lot on the 4th December (lot 2) which will take them to 13,000 out of 28,000 and we are between 13,000-14,000, and extending it for me as a booster (single) to March/April isn't a problem as far as the hospital have advised, understanding people have had other vaccines while waiting, e.g. Pfizer x 2 here.

 

If they don't arrive by then I will see if I can get a booster elsewhere, that said, I don't mind paying again, even if I lose out on the Moderna that I have paid for, i.e. unless I have to have it earlier than March/April.

 

Protecting whatever life I have left in me for whatever duration is left is paramount to me. So I will take what I have to if it's available.

 

 

Edited November 24, 2021 by 4MyEgo

[mommysboy]

2 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Cancel our paid for Moderna shots, you are truly a blood-y idiot.

 

This is an attempt to disgrace the private hospital consortium that ordered the vaccines while this government was playing besties with China.

 

Does he realise the paid for Moderna doses are non refundable, is he suggesting a time and day that we can have these jabs for free, yeh, I didn't think so.

 

Every time I see this bozzo, I want to peeuwk !

 

 

Isn't it more important that you get vaccinated?

[fdsa]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

get free jabs of Pfizer vaccine at state vaccination facilities.

may I know the name of even a single facility where Pfizer is freely available? I could even pay for it.

 

Here on Phuket it's "sorry no double Pfizer, only first Sinovac second Pfizer", and I'm not willing for anything that begins with Sino...

[4MyEgo]

6 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

 

Isn't it more important that you get vaccinated?

Have already been vaccinated with Pfizer and will be using Moderna as a booster.

[mosan]

47 minutes ago, fdsa said:

may I know the name of even a single facility where Pfizer is freely available? I could even pay for it.

 

Here on Phuket it's "sorry no double Pfizer, only first Sinovac second Pfizer", and I'm not willing for anything that begins with Sino...

For the record, here in Ubon Ratchathani, free Pfizer shots have been available from Sappasit Hospital in various locations around the city for 5 months and you'd be hard pressed to find any foreigners in this and surrounding provinces that haven't taken advantage of this. To this day Pfizer is available at the Main OTOP building on Changsanit Road...we were there yesterday, 23 Nov 2021.

[mommysboy]

1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:

Have already been vaccinated with Pfizer and will be using Moderna as a booster.

Did the right thing imo.

 

I suppose booster time is going to be a lotto for us all.  You'll surely have your Moderna available as an option.

[4MyEgo]

11 hours ago, mommysboy said:

Did the right thing imo.

 

I suppose booster time is going to be a lotto for us all.  You'll surely have your Moderna available as an option.

There are a lot of people currently selling their Moderna shots as they don't feel they will need a booster at this point in time, so if you haven't a back up plan, you can always buy that persons Moderna shots for a booster, however might be expensive at 3,300 baht for the two shots, albeit you will only require one shot.

 

The above said, I paid about that for a Pneumonia shot in May, so it wouldn't bother me if I had to pay that kind of money to get a booster, something for you to consider, although I did read that the Thai government ordered 30 million doses of Pfizer yesterday, but let's not forget who will get the shots first.

[arick]

16 hours ago, Chris.B said:

"Thailand’s Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul is urging unvaccinated people, who are waiting for Pfizer or Moderna vaccines booked with private hospitals, to cancel their bookings and get free jabs of Pfizer vaccine at state vaccination facilities."

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But the private hospitals won't allow cancellations!

 

Where and when will the Pfizer vaccinations be available?

 

That is why you pay with credit card for the vaccine!