Top doc says keep RT-PCR test amid Omicron fears - 149 tourists Covid positive, 300K register for Thailand Pass

[connda]

Top doc says keep RT-PCR test amid Omicron fears

Well of course - it's a HUGE money maker.  Heck, charge those dirty Farang 3000 to 10000 THB for the PCR so they be allowed the privilege to enter the Center Of The Universe - Prathet Thai! 

Those 120 THB antigen test just don't make the same profits.

Edited November 30, 2021 by connda

[Upnotover]

On 11/29/2021 at 7:25 AM, John Drake said:

What's happened to all the pronouncements from Dr. Yong? I thought he was supposed to be the "Top Doc" around here. He seems to have vanished.

Fear not, he's back; 

 

[Luton]

On 11/30/2021 at 12:18 AM, DavisH said:

The PCR test was beign withdrawn to be modified so it could detect other kinds of virus/flu. In no way is the test uneliable or unfit for purpose. PCR is the gold standard for detecting sars-cov-2. 

The PCR test is far from accurate. It should never be used as a diagnostic tool, so said it's inventor Nobel Prize winner Karry Mullis (check it out, he said this!). The amplification of your samples from throat and nose can be cranked up to higher cycles (over 25)  by unwitting (or unscrupulous) medical personel to achieve a false positive result. Happens all the time, and Governments are surely aware of this. Insist that you know what cycle of amplification will be used in any PCR test you are forced to take. If they won't say, either ask to see a Supervisor or Chief Medical Officer or don't take it and walk away and don't pay anything. It's a scam globally, and like donkeys people accept it without protest! Quite mad! In the USA it has been officially said by medical authorities the PCR test is "not fit for purpose" and it is being withdrawn this month. So why does the farce of using it all over the world continue if it is subject to being used to bump up 'cases' to justify lockdowns or other abusive political ends?! WE have voices....use them to expose this ridiculous thing.

[partington]

7 hours ago, Luton said:

The PCR test is far from accurate. It should never be used as a diagnostic tool, so said it's inventor Nobel Prize winner Karry Mullis (check it out, he said this!). The amplification of your samples from throat and nose can be cranked up to higher cycles (over 25)  by unwitting (or unscrupulous) medical personel to achieve a false positive result. Happens all the time, and Governments are surely aware of this. Insist that you know what cycle of amplification will be used in any PCR test you are forced to take. If they won't say, either ask to see a Supervisor or Chief Medical Officer or don't take it and walk away and don't pay anything. It's a scam globally, and like donkeys people accept it without protest! Quite mad! In the USA it has been officially said by medical authorities the PCR test is "not fit for purpose" and it is being withdrawn this month. So why does the farce of using it all over the world continue if it is subject to being used to bump up 'cases' to justify lockdowns or other abusive political ends?! WE have voices....use them to expose this ridiculous thing.

Every part of this is nonsense, and the fact that you believe it and repost it exposes you as a bit childishly credulous.

 

The now dead Kary Mullis  was, in addition to the inventor of PCR, a believer in ghosts, an AIDS virus and climate change denier, and an enterpreneur who sold jewellery apparently containing celebrities' DNA.  He was, in short, kind of a nutter who had one good idea, and never made another significant contribution to science.

 

If he did say that PCR could not or should not be used as a diagnostic tool (which I believe is probably made up information) he was utterly wrong, as PCR was, and is, used as an FDA -approved diagnostic tool for literally dozens of disease pathogens. This was the case way before Covid was in existence; the diseases include anthrax, TB, and Dengue [see *below for link and extracts]

 

The idea that false positives can be generated deliberately by cranking up PCR cycles is foolish, because negative controls are run in all sample batches-that is samples known not to contain any virus are always run alongside test samples under exactly the same conditions- so any positives in the negative controls result in every result in that run being discarded. This is standard practice.

 

Similarly your silliness about specifying the number of cycles used is irrelevant-both because of the negative control precautions noted above, and because nearly all PCR test kits are run on real time PCR machines under identical cycle number protocols.

 

This statement you make;

"In the USA it has been officially said by medical authorities the PCR test is "not fit for purpose" and it is being withdrawn this month."

is a direct lie from some batsh*t crazy source.

 

No medical authority has ever said this in any official capacity.  Secondly there is no such thing as "the" PCR test, since there are many different Covid PCR tests currently approved by the FDA, so there isn't "a" test that could be withdrawn.

 

Try to be a bit more analytical and critical in your beliefs - don't just swallow misinformation to support your biases.

 

*Here are just a few of the currently used FDA-approved PCR diagnostic tests for diseases from many listed here

 

 https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/in-vitro-diagnostics/nucleic-acid-based-tests#microbial

 

Anthrax:

Bacillus Anthracis

B. anthracis Real-time PCR Assay

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

K192871

 

Bordetella (whooping cough)

AMPLIVUE BORDETELLA ASSAY

QUIDEL CORPORATION

K143206

 

Dengue

Dengue virus

CDC DENV-1-4 Real-Time RT-PCR Assay

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

K113336

 

Hepatitis C

Abbott Realtime HCV Assay

Abbott Molecular, Inc.

P100017 S001-S006, S007-S012, S014-S019

 

Multiple respiratory virus panel including flu

CDC Human Influenza Virus Real-time RT-PCR Detection and Characterization Panel

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

K080570

 

Mycobacterium tuberculosis (TB)

Amplified Mycobacterium tuberculosis Direct Test

Gen-Probe, Inc.

P940034

 

Gastrointestinal disease multiplex panel to distinguish multiple pathogens including bacterial -salmonella,  viral-norovirus, and parasites-giardia, entamoeba.

xTAG Gastrointestinal Pathogen Panel (GPP)

Luminex Molecular Diagnostics, Inc.

K121894, K121454

 

Smallpox (variola virus)

Variola

Variola Virus Real-Time PCR Assay

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

DEN160016, DEN1600

 

Edited December 1, 2021 by partington