Emerging Obesity in Thailand's female youth.

[Jenkins9039]

Has anyone else noticed how 'fat' the kids are these days (predominantly girls) in Thailand, in over a decade here i've noticed the 10-20 yr old girls are now ballooning in size.

 

Boys seem to be taller and slender (still), girls on the other hand have legs wider than some of the girls my age group (30-40).

 

What happened, and why are the Government not intervening for the sake of their health if anything, it's like another epidemic waiting to blow up.

[thaibeachlovers]

If passing a school when it's time for kids to go home watch where they go- to the 7 11 and the food stalls. No surprise that they are getting larger.

[Dmaxdan]

It's the smart phone generation. Kids playing physical games like they used to do are, for the most part a thing of the past. 

[Gsxrnz]

Being called fat or tubby in Thailand is considered a compliment and not a derogatory name.

 

Fat-shaming in the West is now basically a hate crime. Thailand will get there eventually.

 

 

 

 

[CrunchWrapSupreme]

Same problem as in America, whenever you see footage of homeless and poor, they are quite portly. Then come the comments like "Hah, looks like they're eating well to me!", though the reality is quite the opposite.

 

The bad food is cheap and more accessible, with bags of chips, candy, and soda at the liquor stores fattening them up. The good food is expensive and out of reach, with fresh produce and healthy options at the expensive supermarkets.

 

Here in Thailand the fresh vegetables stay at the fresh markets in the cities and towns, and rarely make it out to the villages. Unless your farmer family, like mine, grows and cooks it themselves, though I've noticed most don't make this effort. What's available in the village shops, and what the kids often eat, are much like the junk food in an American liquor store.

[tgw]

3 minutes ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

 

The bad food is cheap and more accessible, with bags of chips, candy, and soda at the liquor stores fattening them up. The good food is expensive and out of reach, with fresh produce and healthy options at the expensive supermarkets.

bad food is more expensive but requires way less effort and tastes better. that is the problem.

[LennyW]

Coffee shops!

[WaveHunter]

Like everywhere else in the world, the answer is simply overeating 7-11 type processed foods, rich in carbohydrates and eating literally non-stop from the moment they get out of bed until they go to sleep at night.  Insulin levels skyrocket when one eats like that, and as long as insulin is flooding the system, the body has no choice but to store fat and not be able to access the stored fat for fuel.

 

Twenty years ago, Diabetes type-2 was practically unheard of in age groups under 18.  Today it is at epidemic levels, and it's no coincidence that this epidemic rise coincides with the increasing popularity of fast-foods, 24 hour supermarkets, and targeted snack marketing towards children.

 

Over-eating combined with the "new" sedentary lifestyle of teens and pre-teens where they constantly have a smart phone in hand is the reason...pure and simple.

[userabcd]

It seems to be quite hard for people to avoid eating the myriad of sugary, salty, oily, buttery, doughy, fried calorific goods being marketed, advertised and displayed by all those food businesses to the public to consume.

 

Of course the govt is mainly interested in the things these businesses produce; tax revenue and employment for people.

 

Don't understand where the people find money for eating out as many of these things consumed each day can add up to about USD 10 per visit.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, Dmaxdan said:

It's the smart phone generation. Kids playing physical games like they used to do are, for the most part a thing of the past. 

My 10yo son does nothing but sit and play games.

Skinny as a rake, fat kids is more to do with parents overfeeding and neglecting them IMHO.

[BritManToo]

23 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

Twenty years ago, Diabetes type-2 was practically unheard of in age groups under 18.  Today it is at epidemic levels, and it's no coincidence that this epidemic rise coincides with the increasing popularity of fast-foods, 24 hour supermarkets, and targeted snack marketing towards children.

Which coincides with the introduction of multiple vaccinations for young children.

Diabetes is an immune system problem.

 

https://www.healthline.com/health/type-2-diabetes/is-type-2-diabetes-an-autoimmune-diease#what-the-research-says

[WaveHunter]

14 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Which coincides with the introduction of multiple vaccinations for young children.

Diabetes is an immune system problem.

 

https://www.healthline.com/health/type-2-diabetes/is-type-2-diabetes-an-autoimmune-diease#what-the-research-says

Sorry to disagree with you but if you look at purely science based research in the last few years instead of outdated dogma, diabetes type-2 has been found to be entirely a metabolic based condition specifically related to desensitized insulin response.  The research overwhelmingly show this to be a fact.

 

Too many carbs in the diet and non-stop eating from the moment one awakes until the go to sleep is the predominant cause, and for most, the resolution is very simply to control carb intake.

[BritManToo]

1 minute ago, WaveHunter said:

Sorry to disagree with you but if you look at purely science based research in the last few years instead of outdated dogma, diabetes type-2 has been found to be entirely a metabolic based condition specifically related to desensitized insulin response.  The research overwhelmingly show this to be a fact.

From the link I posted ........ (which was updated in 2020)

"What the research says
Early research suggests that the two types of diabetes may have more in common than previously believed. In the last decade, researchers have tested the idea that type 2 diabetes is an autoimmune disease, similar to type 1 diabetes.

Researchers have found evidence that insulin resistance may be the result of immune system cells attacking the body’s tissues. These cells are designed to produce the antibodies that fight invading bacteria, germs, and viruses.

In people with type 2 diabetes, these cells may mistakenly attack healthy tissue."

 

[WaveHunter]

21 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

From the link I posted ........ (which was updated in 2020)

"What the research says
Early research suggests that the two types of diabetes may have more in common than previously believed. In the last decade, researchers have tested the idea that type 2 diabetes is an autoimmune disease, similar to type 1 diabetes.

Researchers have found evidence that insulin resistance may be the result of immune system cells attacking the body’s tissues. These cells are designed to produce the antibodies that fight invading bacteria, germs, and viruses.

In people with type 2 diabetes, these cells may mistakenly attack healthy tissue."

 

The research you linked to is misleading.  The autoimmune response is actually a symptom of a dysfunctional metabolic state , and not the cause of the condition. 

 

It's just the same as inflammation being only a symptom of an underlying medical issue, such as an viral or bacterial infection for instance.  The inflammation is only a symptom; the underlying infection is the cause.

 

Overproduction of Insulin caused by overeating carbohydrates is what leads to desensitizing insulin receptors in the liver.  If one corrects this before the receptors become totally destroyed,  by simply making nutritional changes to cut down carbohydrates and the frequency of eating, insulin levels will quickly return to normal, and symptoms of D type 2 will disappear quickly (as in a matter of days or weeks).

 

There is only a limited window of opportunity to do this though.  Once the receptors are irreparably damaged, the window of opportunity is lost.

 

Current research documents what i said to be true, and more importantly. there are a growing number of pre-diabetic and diabetic patients that are reversing their condition by addressing the metabolic state, not the autoimmune state.

[mancub]

1 hour ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

Here in Thailand the fresh vegetables stay at the fresh markets in the cities and towns, and rarely make it out to the villages.

I've yet to come a village yet that doesn't  have a fruit/veg market !????

[bkk6060]

Rice, noodles and sugary foods are the staples.  Vegetables at street food or rode side places are rare.  The popular then ever 800 calorie Carnation milk sugar syrup coffee drinks Thais seem clueless what a terrible drink that is actually better to drink a can of Coke then that garbage. But I doubt they will ever catch up to the triple size stuff your face U.S. or UK the majority just a bunch of disgusting fat people.

[BritManToo]

27 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

Sorry to disagree with you

You're not disagreeing with me, you're disagreeing with

"Medically reviewed by Debra Sullivan, Ph.D., MSN, R.N., CNE, COI — Written by Kimberly Holland — Updated on April 21, 2020"

[WaveHunter]

28 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

You're not disagreeing with me, you're disagreeing with

"Medically reviewed by Debra Sullivan, Ph.D., MSN, R.N., CNE, COI — Written by Kimberly Holland — Updated on April 21, 2020"

Did you bother to read the research paper this article was based on?  First of all it was written over 8 years ago so it is outdated in the face of all the recent research that has proven the underlying cause to be metabolic.  Further, if you read the very first sentence of the research paper:

 

"...Inflammation-induced inhibition of the insulin signalling pathway may lead to insulin resistance and contribute to the development of type 2 diabetes mellitus (T2DM)..."

 

That research paper is a hypothesis, not a clinically proven fact.  The real question should be "What causes the inflammation?" 

 

Again, as I said before, the inflammation is a SYMPTOM, not the cause.  Modern research has clearly proven that desensitized insulin receptors caused by excessive insulin that is brought on by habitual and long standing overconsumption of carbohydrates is the CAUSE.  That therefore is a metabolic response, not an autoimmune response.

 

I'm not criticizing you.  Even the American Diabetes Association still clings to the false belief that D Type 2 is an incurable disease despite all of the recent research findings and the fact that many  patients with a pre-diabetic condition or even full-blown D type 2 are now reversing the condition in many cases, or at least controlling the condition WITHOUT insulin injections by simply changing their nutritional habits.

[bbko]

Thais just trying to look like farangs, have you seen the average farang here in Thailand, according to their BMI they should be 8 feet/2.4m tall....555.

[Moonlover]

2 hours ago, Gsxrnz said:

Being called fat or tubby in Thailand is considered a compliment and not a derogatory name.

 

Fat-shaming in the West is now basically a hate crime. Thailand will get there eventually.

 

 

 

 

That is not true in our village. The only two fat kids, both boys, are virtually ostracized and other than going to school, never appear outside. My wife confirmed that it's because the other kids poke fun at them and don't want them in 'their gang'.

 

I have to admit that I too have a 'fat prejudice' nature and don't feel comfortable when the boy's fat mother calls by our house.

[The Hammer2021]

Back in the day there were no 7/11s or fat chicks

[BritManToo]

17 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

That is not true in our village. The only two fat kids, both boys, are virtually ostracized and other than going to school, never appear outside. My wife confirmed that it's because the other kids poke fun at them and don't want them in 'their gang'.

 

I have to admit that I too have a 'fat prejudice' nature and don't feel comfortable when the boy's fat mother calls by our house.

Me too!

I always assume if they have no respect for their own bodies, they probably won't have much respect for me, and are therefor best avoided.

[Farmerslife]

When I first came here in the early eighties obesity was about as rare as a horse in a hammock, these days with exposure to western diets, heavily processed foods and a sedentary lifestyle it's all gone to $h*t.

  Active for kids these days doesn't mean running about expending some energy it means highly developed thumbs attuned to the mobile or game console. 

[Rimmer]

Some troll posts have been removed

[GarryP]

50 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

I have to admit that I too have a 'fat prejudice' nature and don't feel comfortable when the boy's fat mother calls by our house.

What caused that? I'm asking because I can't work out where my prejudice/discomfort comes from. I have worked with some great overweight women, but for some reason would always try to avoid spending any free time with them.  Being in close proximity makes me uncomfortable.

[JustAnotherHun]

They only seem fat because they're so short ????

[digbeth]

they seem to be shorter compared to the kids of late 80s-90s when there was a deliberate drive to get them to drink milk and better nutrition, which is strange considering the availability of milk and foods now 

[Tony125]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Which coincides with the introduction of multiple vaccinations for young children.

Diabetes is an immune system problem.

 

https://www.healthline.com/health/type-2-diabetes/is-type-2-diabetes-an-autoimmune-diease#what-the-research-says

There is "nothing"  in that article suggesting or even mentioning that vaccinations could be a reason for type #2 Diabetes. 

[poohy]

3 hours ago, mancub said:

I've yet to come a village yet that doesn't  have a fruit/veg market !????

True we have one weekly but how many thai farmers and families eat the stuff daily my local emporium sells Beer,(various flavours) whisky, lao kao crisps sweets a myriad of sugary pops  and every sort of pot noodle type thing you can buy

He does a daily roaring trade

[Tony125]

Think the extra  weight on Thai girls/boys may come from too much sugar from junk food and sugary drinks. Their increase in hight/size is probably from the steroids added to beef to make bigger cows and hormones added to chiken to make them have bigger breasts ( that has caused girls maturing early) as cooking does not destroy the steroids or hormones in animal flesh. We have a niece who won't be 12 untill next Apil. Her mother is well off and feeds her the best steak and  chiken and other foods. She is not fat as she is very active in sports but she at 11 is already slighly taller than my wife who 5'3"  and weighs 52 kilo which is 4 kilo more than my wife.