Israeli Who Escaped Quarantine Will be Charged and Deported

[Hummin]

1 hour ago, NemoH said:

Now he gets a free ride home?????????????

They dont let you go before you pay up your detention, case fees and cost, and also your new ticket back home. 

 

Good thing he is not in Dubai, they would have kept him until the case was cleared. Can take months up to a year there, but the good thing, they only keep your passport, and you are free to go anywhere you want, unless you did a serious crime of course. 

[traveller101]

I entered Phuket under 'Test and go' a month ago.

Was instructed at reception to register myself at the Lab carrying out the test in order to receive the result first hand and not have to wait until the  Hotel reception called.

I received the negative Test-Result 4 hours later (1pm), checked out showing the Lab report only to be told by that I had to stay overnight.  Took me half an hour and the Hotel Managers involvement to finally be allowed to leave. BTW - I did not have to leave my passport, reception took a copy . I stayed at the Hilton in Patong 

There is indeed a lot of scope for 'misunderstandings' - summed up nicely by Sheryl's thoughts on the topic.

 

[davidst01]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

A chap in Australia was just released from 3 months in prison (sentenced to 9), for breaking quarantine rules. He was non positive. 

Guessing he would have loved just a press conference.

 

Does it paint Oz in a bad light?

Who cares. Yesterday's news.

 

do you have a link?

[Mavideol]

Israeli Who Escaped Quarantine Will be Charged and Deported

 

wonder what they do the Thais who do/did the same

[DrJack54]

8 minutes ago, davidst01 said:

do you have a link?

Here is snipit from 9 news article...

"One of the Melbourne AFL fans jailed for sneaking into Western Australia via Darwin to watch the grand final has apologised for he and his friend's "selfish and stupid decisions".

Melbourne socialite Hayden Burbank flew back to Victoria on Monday night after three months in WA's Hakea Prison. At the time of the breach, travel had been heavily restricted amid fears of COVID-19 cases spreading outside of Victoria."

[phutoie2]

Reports, that he has been fined 2000B, as he pleaded guilty. Handed over to Immigration Police for deportatation. 

 

[SiSePuede419]

20 minutes ago, traveller101 said:

received the negative Test-Result 4 hours later (1pm), checked out showing the Lab report only to be told by that I had to stay overnight.

That's what they told me.  Had to stay at least past midnight. 

 

Hey, why not stay overnight and eat the buffet in the morning?  You already paid for the room.

[mtls2005]

43 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Pol Col Duangchote Suwancharas, superintendent of Thong Lor police, said the suspect pleaded guilty in court, so his punishment was reduced to a 2,000 baht fine.

Finally someone with smarts.

 

Thank goodness we didn't execute this chap.

 

 

[JustAnotherHun]

I had my test at 9am and was free to go at 5pm.

3 minutes later I was on the way to my condo.

[Sheryl]

Some really nasty (and in one case defamatory) posts have been removed.

[The Hammer2021]

17 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

When he gets back homes, I hope no one askes him how his holiday was 

'Apart from that  how was the holiday?'

[Sheryl]

13 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

That's what they told me.  Had to stay at least past midnight. 

 

 

AFAIK there is no requirement to stay once a negative test result arrives. Hard to see (in terms of disease control) what it would accomplish.

 

Many people have left before spending the night if results came in time.

 

But of course, room is paid for and no refunds if you do this.

[richard_smith237]

3 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said:

I had my test at 9am and was free to go at 5pm.

3 minutes later I was on the way to my condo.

 

A similar story... 

 

We tested at about 9am (in the hotel car park) - went to the room and slept.

At about 5pm we called the front desk - tests negative we were free to go (we left at about 8pm). 

 

We were given ATK but the hotel staff couldn’t tell us what to do with them or who to send the result to. 

We took the tests (negative) but never sent the result to anyone. 

 

 

I’m glad we didn’t end up in 3 different Aseannow threads with 'jail them’ comments for not complying with Covid regulations. 

 

 

The point I want to make here is that even the ‘higher end hotels’ have been extremely poor in communicating protocols, staff themselves don’t really know.

 

 

 

 

[Sheryl]

19 minutes ago, phutoie2 said:

Reports, that he has been fined 2000B, as he pleaded guilty. Handed over to Immigration Police for deportatation. 

 

Whatever the true circumstances a guilty pleas was clearly his best course of action.

 

I wonder if we will ever hear his side of the story.

[NanaSomchai]

5 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

But of course, room is paid for and no refunds if you do this.

"Refund" is a word that doesn't seem to exist in the Thai language anyhow. ????

[The Hammer2021]

A silly young man who will regret this unfortunate  adventure but hopefully  realise he is very lucky to avoid prison. One wonders if an absconder from a quarantine  facility in his home country would be treated as with the same leniency

[richard_smith237]

23 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

44 minutes ago, traveller101 said:

received the negative Test-Result 4 hours later (1pm), checked out showing the Lab report only to be told by that I had to stay overnight.

That's what they told me.  Had to stay at least past midnight. 

 

Hey, why not stay overnight and eat the buffet in the morning?  You already paid for the room.

After arriving and testing at 9am we received our test results in the afternoon but still planned on staying at the Test & Go hotel over night.

I wanted to go home and get the car so we could take my son straight to school the following morning. 

 

But, the hotel said IF I left the room / floor I would not be permitted re-entry to the room.

I never understood that logic, consequently we all checked out and went home that evening instead. 

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

6 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

A silly young man who will regret this unfortunate  adventure but hopefully  realise he is very lucky to avoid prison. One wonders if an absconder from a quarantine  facility in his home country would be treated as with the same leniency

Very unlikely... but when considering this we’d also have to consider the other potential possibilities.

 

i.e. In his home country is there the same degree of absence to detail and poor communication which could have led to a misunderstanding. In his home country would hotel staff have let him walk out ?

 

It is very possible that what happened here ‘could not’ have happened in his home country as there is better information, better security, better communication etc...   

 

 

[The Hammer2021]

All in all his treatment and sentence shows a great deal of decency and compassion by the Thai authorities. From his rapid apprehension, test, court appearance and sentencing the authorities  have done an excellent job and highlighted  the importance  of obeying quarantine  rules.

[Lemsta69]

2 hours ago, easydoor said:

For me it is very clear:

you are in another country, there are RULES. You just have to follow this rules. In case you don't, don't come to cry here, you are guilty.

nonsense. this is Thailand, rules are made to be broken. just don't get caught.

[Jingthing]

Result pretty much as I predicted but I am curious if the deportation is linked to blacklisting and if so for how long not that he would ever want to come back.

He can give his side from Israel. I doubt he will bother.

[mikecha]

17 hours ago, geisha said:

I suppose they are right.What if every other fool decided to do a runner ?  If he did have Omicron or Delta or asymptomatique, he’s not allowed to leave like that and potentially spread whatever he’s got. 

Correct  should  deport  no entry 10 years  done

[bkkcanuck8]

4 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

What a colossal waste of time, which paints thailand in an extremely poor light.

 

Just hold a press conference, have him apologize and then let him leave thailand.

 

Can common-sense prevail here?

 

I understand the need to "make an example" of someone but does that ever really work?

 

Hopefully ALL tourists are provided with translated versions of these "Acts", along with a detailed list of punishments. 

He had conditions on entry to Thailand, he violated those conditions and he should be deported and blacklisted.  In effect it is the same as illegal entry.  Any country would do the same (or potentially more) if put in that position.  All he had to do was take the day and 'recover from jet lag' have a few meals, watch TV and then take a test and when he passed leave.  It is absolutely irrelevant if he was infected or not.  

[richard_smith237]

6 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

He had conditions on entry to Thailand, he violated those conditions and he should be deported and blacklisted.  In effect it is the same as illegal entry.  Any country would do the same (or potentially more) if put in that position.  All he had to do was take the day and 'recover from jet lag' have a few meals, watch TV and then take a test and when he passed leave.  It is absolutely irrelevant if he was infected or not.  

It was reported in the Bangkok Post that he stayed in his Test & Go hotel for longer than 24 hrs and departed at 2pm the day after his arrival.

 

Thus: He did actually ‘take the day and recover from jet-lag and have a few meals’..... 

 

The outstanding question is whether or not his ‘Test & Go’ hotel are being honest or not.

- Did the hotel staff tell him he could leave ? (there are reports of other hotels doing this).

- Did he leave the hotel knowing he was breaking protocol ? (in which case he was very wrong)

- Did he assume ‘no news was good news’ as it was more than 24 hrs since taking his swab ? (in which case he was naive and stupid). 

 

 

 

[dj230]

4 hours ago, bluemoon58 said:

I've been following this with interest. Maybe I've missed something but I haven't seen one report of WHY he did it! What's the big secret...??? If it has been reported, then apologies but if not, what was the reason?

My guess is he either started to feel sick and didn’t want to get stuck in quarantine 

 

or he tested positive for covid already and used fake documents to show he tested negative because he didn’t want to lose money rescheduling and thought he could get past the test and go by leaving. 
 

Hope he gets more than a fine/blacklist considering he did indeed have covid. But from what I’ve seen it looks like Thailand is pretty lenient and just gives fines/blacklists for breaking covid rules. 

Edited December 29, 2021 by dj230

[tezzaaa]

On the positive side at least he will collect air miles..

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, dj230 said:

My guess is he either started to feel sick and didn’t want to get stuck in quarantine 

 

or he tested positive for covid already and used fake documents to show he tested negative because he didn’t want to lose money rescheduling and thought he could get past the test and go by leaving. 
 

hope he gets more than a fine

Your guess is way off... 

 

Its been reported already..... In total he has had 5 negative tests results. 

 

 

Thus: the initial Test and Go result seems to be a false positive. 

The story about the his ’Samui sample’ being sent to Bangkok and tested ‘positive for Omicron’ is also highly questionable and possibly made up by ’someone’ in a position of power attempting to deflect. 

 

 

 

 

[dj230]

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Your guess is way off... 

 

Its been reported already..... In total he has had 5 negative tests results. 

 

 

Thus: the initial Test and Go result seems to be a false positive. 

The story about the his ’Samui sample’ being sent to Bangkok and tested ‘positive for Omicron’ is also highly questionable and possibly made up by ’someone’ in a position of power attempting to deflect. 

 

 

 

 

You can photoshop a negative covid test result pretty easily, takes a few seconds. 

 

no other reason why he would leave, unless you can explain? 

 

 

[DjSilver]

So ridiculous, Thai stupidity all over again. I am never surprised.

[SteveAZ]

I am astonished there are people defending him. His story?!!! His story is that he’s a selfish idiot. He knew exactly what he was doing when he left his hotel before getting his test results and IF he did not know then, then he certainly realized it when no Pattya hotels would take him. The Israel health authorities and police aren’t going to be too kind to him either.