snoop1130 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Dr. Chawetsan Namwat, Director of Division of Disease Situation Control in Emergency, revealed that the challenges of providing COVID-19 vaccines are to cope with the concerns caused by fake news and various kinds of belief and to manage the amount of the vaccines to match with the demand in each period, to which Thailand had negotiated with some countries as to transfer the vaccines between them when needed. Up until now, Thailand has received almost 10 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines from 8 different countries, whilst, has been providing over 103 million doses to its citizens and expats with more than 45 million of its citizens are fully vaccinated, approx. 64% of all citizens, according to MOPH – Immunization Center. -- © Copyright A24 News Agency 2022-01-05 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Golden Triangle Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 We ( me & the mrs ) have to wait until next month for a booster shot, we're hoping that the hospital that did the first 2 jabs is running a booster programme. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheScience Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: challenges of providing COVID-19 vaccines are to cope with the concerns caused by fake news and various kinds of belief and to manage the amount of the vaccines to match with the demand Sorry, I'm lost. I'd think *fake news* (lol, blame the fake news 555) would lessen the demand. Well, I'm certainly willing to forgo mRNA vaccine. Have thus far and will continue to do so. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nattaya09 Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 The vax rate had been doing well up until mid November but has dropped precipitously since to almost nothing. I was wondering if they had a vaccine shortage or had just hit the ceiling of those who wanted to get it. They have about 66% fully vaxed now. I figured they could leverage the current Omicron scare into reviving it had it been the latter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NicholasTH Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 What about a poorly run government into this equation ..???????????? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cherrytreeview Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 33 minutes ago, TheScience said: Sorry, I'm lost. I'd think *fake news* (lol, blame the fake news 555) would lessen the demand. Well, I'm certainly willing to forgo mRNA vaccine. Have thus far and will continue to do so. Yes, you are lost. A bit like these brothers who thought they knew better. https://news.sky.com/story/igor-bogdanoff-80s-french-tv-star-dies-from-covid-days-after-twin-brother-grichka-12508738 Both unvaccinated. You will not avoid omicron. Most people who have been tripled jab think it's like a bad cold/mild flu. For those who think they know better than global science, like yourself, then they could get very sick indeed. I doubt you'll be spouting your ill informed nonsense to the doctor who's charged with trying to save your life. You don't need to reply to me, i couldn't care less if you get jabbed or not. I do care about you taking up a bed for a non covid patient who is denied one because of you 11 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheScience Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cherrytreeview said: I do care about you taking up a bed for a non covid patient who is denied one because of your stupidity. Oh, that's new. Usually it's the canard ...taking up the bed for those vaxed. Of course, the irony is that they are vaxed and in hospital yes? It's all downhill from here bro. Everyone reporting it's just a bad flu. Science says omicron only lingering in upper respiratory. Fauci sending everyone to work after five days quarantine. We finally have sunshine. 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cherrytreeview Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, TheScience said: Oh, that's new. Usually it's the canard ...taking up the bed for those vaxed. Of course, the irony is that they are vaxed and in hospital yes? It's all downhill from here bro. Everyone reporting it's just a bad flu. Science says omicron only lingering in upper respiratory. Fauci sending everyone to work after five days quarantine. We finally have sunshine. In the UK, 90% of people in ICU are unvaccinated. The evidence to get vaccinated and boosted is overwhelming. 9 2 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cherrytreeview Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n3079 Here's more truth. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59696499.amp Yet more. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cherrytreeview Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cherrytreeview said: https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n3079 Here's more truth. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59696499.amp Yet more. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/significant-increase-protection-vs-omicron-mrna-boosters-study-says-2021-12-22/ and more. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post TheScience Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Cherrytreeview said: What you got? Herd Immunity Possibility From Omicron Omicron coronavirus variant will develop into a live vaccine that provides immunity without the need for booster shots. advised the public not to be too worried about the possibility. reduced incubation time for faster transmission while also tending to cause milder symptoms akin to the common cold or flu. cause the common cold most people develop an immunity after contracting these viruses as children. LOL He suggests that the variant will operate as a live attenuated vaccine, delivering stronger immunity stimulation than existing COVID vaccines. It's here, now and finally sanctioned by TV. The horror show is over. https://aseannow.com/topic/1245512-expert-predicts-rise-in-covid-19-cases-but-herd-immunity-possibility-from-omicron/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Virt Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, TheScience said: He suggests that the variant will operate as a live attenuated vaccine, delivering stronger immunity stimulation than existing COVID vaccines. https://aseannow.com/topic/1245512-expert-predicts-rise-in-covid-19-cases-but-herd-immunity-possibility-from-omicron/ If the omicron variant will operate as a live attenuated vaccine, how can it also deliver a stronger immunity stimulation? Does attenuated not mean weakened? It's also just something he suggest is it not, so no data backing his claims? A bit confused since recent studies shows that getting a booster after being infected raise your anti bodies by a lot compared to just having the infection and no vaccines. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScience Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, Virt said: If the omicron variant will operate as a live attenuated vaccine, how can it also deliver a stronger immunity stimulation? Does attenuated not mean weakened? It's also just something he suggest is it not, so no data backing his claims? A bit confused since recent studies shows that getting a booster after being infected raise your anti bodies by a lot compared to just having the infection and no vaccines. Attenuated describes the nature and type of vaccine but what presumably all vaccines are at least supposed to do is boost immunity. AZ, Sputnik V are attenuated vaccines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheScience Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Virt said: recent studies shows that getting a booster after being infected raise your anti bodies by a lot compared to just having the infection and no vaccines. I understand the opposite to be true. Besides, it seems entirely counterintuitive. You got a vaccine and then you got a booster. It didn't work. You got covid. Then?? What?? You get another vaccine - to protect you against what? Covid?? Numerous studies indicate that immunity post exposure is best, most durable - from my reading. Edited January 5, 2022 by TheScience 2 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virt Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheScience said: I understand the opposite to be true. Besides, it seems entirely counterintuitive. You got a vaccine and then you got a booster. It didn't work. You got covid. Then?? What?? You get another vaccine - to protect you against what? Covid?? Numerous studies indicate that immunity post exposure is best, most durable - from my reading. Not the studies i looked at so many we just seek info at different sites ???? Let's just agree that Omicron so far seems to be milder, and that sounds promising. As of today we still have the highest spikes in DK during this pandemic, but the director of the serum institute still think we will be back to almost normal in a few months. (Todays numbers are 231.000 PCR test and they showed 28.000 positives, so we still test like crazy, but our positive rate is over 10, so that indicate we have a lot of positive people running around in the public) Time will tell and now i will go book a time for my Pzifer booster ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Virt said: Time will tell and now i will go book a time for my Pzifer booster ???? I'd like to avoid Omicron at all costs, just because it effects some people mildly does not mean thats the case for everyone. I've had my Pfizer booster a couple of weeks ago so should now be up to speed on antibody levels, if its going to touch me at least let it happen while they remain that way....lol Interesting comments made by UK's Chief Medical officer in a briefing yesterday. He said that while talking to unvaccinated Omicron patients in hospital he found three main questions they were asking. 1. Is this disease serious enough to be vaccinated against? "well yes clearly you are in hospital" 2. Do the vaccines work? "yes 88% protection is our current estimate, even more for ICU admission" 3. Side effects? "Go through all of those concerns properly but there is misinformation deliberately placed on the internet to scare people" I paraphrased to shorten but 2 min video is on twitter https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1478719682567827456 Edited January 5, 2022 by Bkk Brian 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JCP108 Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said: In the UK, 90% of people in ICU are unvaccinated. The evidence to get vaccinated and boosted is overwhelming. Same in the U.S. Over 90% of those w Covid in the ICU are the unvaccinated. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicholasTH Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 We are never really told the truth.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 11 hours ago, Golden Triangle said: We ( me & the mrs ) have to wait until next month for a booster shot, we're hoping that the hospital that did the first 2 jabs is running a booster programme. Yes, here we go again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 12 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Dr. Chawetsan Namwat, Director of Division of Disease Situation Control in Emergency, revealed that the challenges of providing COVID-19 vaccines are to cope with the concerns caused by fake news and various kinds of belief and to manage the amount of the vaccines to match with the demand in each period, to which Thailand had negotiated with some countries as to transfer the vaccines between them when needed. It's called MANAGEMENT .... something half [or more] of Thai officials & governors have no concept of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketDog Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 All these arguments and counter-arguments are just so much jaw wagging. Those who will/have gotten vaccinated will do so, those who haven't simply won't, ever. Boring...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 41 minutes ago, hotchilli said: It's called MANAGEMENT .... something half [or more] of Thai officials & governors have no concept of. Having made his millions on the Chinese <deleted>, Anutin's lost interest in obtaining the proper stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arithai12 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 36 minutes ago, hotchilli said: It's called MANAGEMENT .... something half [or more] of Thai officials & governors have no concept of. You could then say the same of many western government, starting e.g. with the US, who hoarded tons of vaccines only to be faced with the fact that many of their citizens didn't actually want them (ergo the donations). You will find that the US and Thailand have completely comparable 1-dose and 2-dose vaccinaton rates (https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations), in spite of the US being richer and having started much earlier. There is a hard core of people who are strongly against vaccines, in some cases based on the idea that they are healthy and immune enough, and in some cases due to conspiracy theories of various kinds. This is the root of the problem, it has little to do with the management by governments - although I will agree with you that this is an area where the Thai politicians do not excel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBear57 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Went for our booster shots today at Kilo Sip no vaccines and no idea if or when they will get some. They still say come and get it on the internet, but there is nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Up until now, Thailand has received almost 10 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines from 8 different countries, whilst, has been providing over 103 million doses to its citizens and expats with more than 45 million of its citizens are fully vaccinated, approx. 64% of all citizens, according to MOPH – Immunization Center. If 45 Million persons have received full Vaccination at 2 shots each, that accounts for 90 Million Doses., which is approx 64 % of the population. Therefore, 36 % of the population have received only a total of 13 Million Doses between them This means there are many people still out there that are only single dosed, or have received no Vaccine at all. That is over 1/3rd of the population. Get them immunized, and scale down the Booster shots Edited January 6, 2022 by Cake Monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 11 hours ago, Virt said: Let's just agree that Omicron so far seems to be milder, and that sounds promising. Can we also agree that after Omicron you have more anti-bodies ? So let's see the comparison of anti-bodies after the 3rd booster shot and those that caught Omicron before getting the 3rd booster shot. That's the metric that would indicate if Omicron is better than manmade booster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, TheScience said: Well, I'm certainly willing to forgo mRNA vaccine. Have thus far and will continue to do so. You won't have a choice. Theres not enough vaccines once again. You most likely wouldn't be lucky enough in any case to get an mRNA vaccine unless you've previously paid for one. Edited January 6, 2022 by MrJ2U 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCross Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 shouldn't thailand be producing 10M doses of AZ every month by now? whatever happened to that? did they stop production? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 5 hours ago, LittleBear57 said: Went for our booster shots today at Kilo Sip no vaccines and no idea if or when they will get some. They still say come and get it on the internet, but there is nothing. Same in prachuap Enrol and wait oh and look at facebook page Are we listed on there ,dont know When is vaccine coming dont know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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