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Omicron: How the world’s fastest spreading virus could also end the pandemic


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11 hours ago, Scott said:

One of the big problems for hospitals is the lack of personnel.  Many have quit and now many are sick.  The US CDC has lowered the quarantine period to 5 days with protests from the American Medical Association, which proposes 7 days, minimum.  At least one state, Michigan, has decided to remain at 10 days. 

A huge problem with the 5 day quarantine protocol is that rapid tests are very hard to find, so it seems that the next bad idea is letting people do without and go about wearing masks. The White House is using AU (artificial unintelligence) to formulate policy!

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9 hours ago, talahtnut said:

Fear not, there will be another convarient until everyone is jabbered,

or sees the light.

Let me just fix that for you:

"Fear not, there will be another variant until everyone sees the light and gets "jabbered,""

 

That's better ????

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15 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Places like China with its insane zero covid policy are either going to explode with covid the minute they open or be locked up for the next 20 years - which wont make most people unhappy

Chances are that they would be opening and closing again repeatedly over a number of years while the rest of the world potentially gets back to normal through exposure.

 

Ridiculous.

 

Eventually (probably after they see numbers really start to drop in the Western world and the outcome is clear), they will announce proudly that their experts have researched and tested Omicron carefully and decided that the best course of action is to open up and let the variant spread, with caution, creating natural immunity.

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7 hours ago, placnx said:

A huge problem with the 5 day quarantine protocol is that rapid tests are very hard to find, so it seems that the next bad idea is letting people do without and go about wearing masks. The White House is using AU (artificial unintelligence) to formulate policy!

One of the problems with tests is that some of them identify viral material which may be present for a long time after the infection is over.  

 

California has now required no quarantine for health care workers who test positive but are asymptomatic.  The Nurses Association is against this, but apparently the staffing situation in hospitals is critical enough to warrant it.  

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Its good news but if more people get infected you still need a lockdown to prevent overflowing hospitals. Because less lethal but many times more contagious still leads in more hospital beds occupied.

 

As long as they can keep that under control then later things can open up. This might be real good but there is still need for caution. Overflowing hospitals like in the UK and  Netherlands could be a problem. (and yes in the Uk its because less people can work but its still a problem).

 

Anyway as long as that stays under control this might be good. But if vaccines did not give the protection why would this give protection. Would a new variant not reinfect us like this one does ? I think its a bit too early to cheer.

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21 minutes ago, robblok said:

Its good news but if more people get infected you still need a lockdown to prevent overflowing hospitals. Because less lethal but many times more contagious still leads in more hospital beds occupied.

 

As long as they can keep that under control then later things can open up. This might be real good but there is still need for caution. Overflowing hospitals like in the UK and  Netherlands could be a problem. (and yes in the Uk its because less people can work but its still a problem).

 

Anyway as long as that stays under control this might be good. But if vaccines did not give the protection why would this give protection. Would a new variant not reinfect us like this one does ? I think its a bit too early to cheer.

Lockdowns are probably not the best option to deal with Omicron.  They could work, but they would have to be severe lockdowns and it's very unlikely that people would be cooperative with what is being touted as a milder version.  The only disease more transmissible than Omicron is measles and I don't recall ever reading of any lockdowns for measles (and yes, it's a different disease and a different demographic affected).

Ultimately, vaccines are the best bet and any drastic action should surround getting the most people vaccinated as possible.  Even with breakthrough cases being higher with Omicron, enough are protected  to gradually grind it to a halt.  

 

Masks are also essential.  Either a high quality mask needs to be worn and if not available, then seriously limit your amount of time indoors with others and carefully maintain social distancing.  Getting infected is still a matter of not just exposure, but exposure over a period of time.  

 

But to address your concern about hospitals, you have brought up an extremely important point, not just for Covid patients but for everyone else that needs to use a hospital.

 

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While this omicron variant of COVID is less lethal than the original virus or delta variant, in the USA, Canada, 

Europe, Russia and other countries, the number of COVID cases are spiking and hospitals are getting full

once again. This pandemic has been around 2 years, and now even the health workers, police, fire, and almost all other

businesses are all getting sick and unable to come to work. It is a good thing that likely not as many people will die

from the latest variant, but with even children getting sick from omicron, and bringing it home to mom, dad, and in some cases

grandma and grandpa, the situation is not really improving is it.  Many places are having problems with their goods

getting moved around as a lot of truck drivers and warehouse and factory workers are also getting sick and many

stores are having troubles getting their products delivered to them.  This is something that all should be aware of

as the future may not be as bright and cheery as some are predicting.

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14 hours ago, Scott said:

One of the problems with tests is that some of them identify viral material which may be present for a long time after the infection is over.  

 

California has now required no quarantine for health care workers who test positive but are asymptomatic.  The Nurses Association is against this, but apparently the staffing situation in hospitals is critical enough to warrant it.  

The problem is that rapid tests are out of stock in many places in the US. Michael Mina was evangelizing the importance of rapid tests soon after the pandemic started, but the FDA dragged their feet on approving these tests. Here's an explainer:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/26/health/at-home-covid-tests-khn-partner/index.html

Rapid tests would have been the way to keep schools open and still avoid spreading Omicron too much, also to keep staffing levels up in hospitals, on airlines, etc.

 

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