Father had enough of his former son-in-law - shoots him when he breaks the door down

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Picture Thai Rath

 

Warinchamrap police in Sasaming sub-district of Ubon Ratchathani in Thailand's north eastern region were called after a shooting at a house last night.

 

Ekachai, 33, had been shot in the stomach and was taken to hospital by rescue services.

 

Sompong, 57, who had called the cops was waiting with a Thai made gun to surrender.

 

Sompong told the police it was his house and the victim was his former son-in-law. 

 

He said that his 28 year old daughter "Naen" had had a relationship with Ekachai for three years before they split up after constant arguments. 

 

But Ekachai wouldn't accept this and was constantly coming to the house drunk and making trouble.

 

On this occasion he again arrived drunk. Sompong ran inside and bolted the door but Ekachai broke it down and entered the property.

 

Sompong said he had threatened to shoot him if he came in.

 

He retrieved a gun from under his bed and did just that hitting him in the abdomen with one shot, then called the police. 

 

The cops have initially charged him with attempted murder, reported Thai Rath.

 

The gun appears to be legally owned. 

 

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[steven100]

you were told khun Ekachai not to come around any more .... but you just had to keep pushing and breaking the door to get in was the last straw.

[Silencer]

No legal right to defend yourself in your own property against an intruder?

[bradiston]

56 minutes ago, Silencer said:

No legal right to defend yourself in your own property against an intruder?

I believe any trespass is defendable by whatever means comes to hand.

[The Hammer2021]

1 hour ago, Silencer said:

No legal right to defend yourself in your own property against an intruder?

Not to murder them apparently

[The Hammer2021]

5 minutes ago, bradiston said:

I believe any trespass is defendable by whatever means comes to hand.

Believe as you wish  but don't  try to  put your beliefs into practice.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, Silencer said:

No legal right to defend yourself in your own property against an intruder?

No one said that but it has to be investigated and that is what is happening.

[Liverpool Lou]

12 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

1 hour ago, Silencer said:

No legal right to defend yourself in your own property against an intruder?

Not to murder them apparently

No one was murdered...yet!

[daveAustin]

Good enough. Way too many mouthbreathers get away with this carry on. Liberal left westerners will hope to get the FIL put away no doubt. 

[bradiston]

8 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Believe as you wish  but don't  try to  put your beliefs into practice.

I had somebody break a window in my place in a steroid rage. He was off his trolley. Would I had had the length of bamboo stick I keep now, to whack him round the ear at the time. I don't think he would have had a case against me. This isn't nannyville. It's what most Thais would have done IMHO. And it's a very strange invocation not to practice what you preach, or stand up for yourself, or your beliefs. You think the police will?

[Dcheech]

9 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

Liberal left westerners will hope to get the FIL put away no doubt. 

In your dreams. Liberal left westerners are stunned that the BiB did this to the man defending himself from a person who broke into his house;

 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

The cops have initially charged him with attempted murder, reported Thai Rath.

However stunned is all that is allowed, criticism could be deemed 'defamation'. That is not legal, and punishable by arrest and jail.

[bradiston]

42 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Believe as you wish  but don't  try to  put your beliefs into practice.

A misunderstanding. What I intended to convey was that my understanding is that in Thailand it is acceptable to defend yourself against trespass, not that it was my personal belief. However, I pretty much feel that, either way, if some guy comes to your property with devilry mind, your intervention is quite legitimate. I'm not going to argue the legalities because what would be the point?

[wombat]

seems fair, whats the problem?

[Harveyboy]

2 hours ago, Silencer said:

No legal right to defend yourself in your own property against an intruder?

yes sad eh laws an ass

[Harveyboy]

1 hour ago, bradiston said:

I had somebody break a window in my place in a steroid rage. He was off his trolley. Would I had had the length of bamboo stick I keep now, to whack him round the ear at the time. I don't think he would have had a case against me. This isn't nannyville. It's what most Thais would have done IMHO. And it's a very strange invocation not to practice what you preach, or stand up for yourself, or your beliefs. You think the police will?

Thais yes mate !!!  i agree can defend against these yabba ect ect takers but as a foreigner..i wouldn't rate my chances who's side BIB would take..

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

The cops have initially charged him with attempted murder,

He should get a full pardon and medal... 

[bradiston]

28 minutes ago, Harveyboy said:

Thais yes mate !!!  i agree can defend against these yabba ect ect takers but as a foreigner..i wouldn't rate my chances who's side BIB would take..

In the end, don't get mad, get xxxxxxxx even. 

[NE1]

as they say , better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

[The Old Bull]

I have seen cases like this before. The consensus in the village as to whether or not the victim is a rotten <deleted> will determine the payment to the BIB.

[JensenZ]

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No one was murdered...yet!

And he shot him in the stomach, so it is likely he didn't want to kill him.

[kidneyw]

2 hours ago, bradiston said:

This isn't nannyville

Love it.

You nailed it mate.

[MrJ2U]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

But Ekachai wouldn't accept this and was constantly coming to the house drunk and making trouble.

He was probably doing the same thing during the relationship.

 

What a loser.

[Nkpjed]

The cops have initially charged him with attempted murder

 

 

they should give him a medal.

[spidermike007]

A tiny, tiny man completely lacking in self esteem, who knows nothing about himself, and has never spent a single moment during his lifetime introspecting or bothering to get to know himself, cannot handle rejection of any sort. 

 

You were warned, you little punk. Yet, you continued to make a nuisance of yourself, and you were put down like a dog. 

[ujayujay]

9 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Good enough. Way too many mouthbreathers get away with this carry on. Liberal left westerners will hope to get the FIL put away no doubt. 

Beware your US stand the Ground BS......

[RichardColeman]

My wife has a gun. It's 400 km or so away in Nan, when our daughter reaches 18 or so, it will be in our house. 

[Stargeezr]

I just hope that the former relative survives, then gets sent to jail for breaking

into the former father in laws house. This is Thailand though, so it will be interesting

to see what happen in the future.

[Moonlover]

22 hours ago, Silencer said:

No legal right to defend yourself in your own property against an intruder?

 

21 hours ago, bradiston said:

I believe any trespass is defendable by whatever means comes to hand.

I'm sure that Thailand's legal system will reflect that which prevails in most civilized countries in that, yes - you do have the right to defend yourself against an intruder.

 

But that right only extends to using the minimum force necessary to prevent any harm coming to you or your family.

 

Shooting an unarmed intruder goes well beyond that criteria and there was no mention that the ex son-in-law was armed in any way.

[bradiston]

4 hours ago, Moonlover said:

 

I'm sure that Thailand's legal system will reflect that which prevails in most civilized countries in that, yes - you do have the right to defend yourself against an intruder.

 

But that right only extends to using the minimum force necessary to prevent any harm coming to you or your family.

 

Shooting an unarmed intruder goes well beyond that criteria and there was no mention that the ex son-in-law was armed in any way.

So here's the thing. He's kicking your door in, and you politely enquire if he's armed? The cxxxx got no business being on your property trying to force an entry, threatening violence, in the first place. Actions have consequences. Self defense. You have to assume the worst. I think your instincts would tell you the same. Self preservation mode. Humans at their most lethal. Everything's fair game at that point. Him or me.

 

[ramrod711]

16 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

My wife has a gun. It's 400 km or so away in Nan, when our daughter reaches 18 or so, it will be in our house. 

If a shooting situation arises, it would probably be wise to let your wife, or daughter, do it. I wouldn't want to face a Thai court on a murder charge.