COVID Controllable despite over 10,000 New Cases Daily

[snoop1130]

 

BANGKOK, Feb 7 (TNA) – COVID-19 remains controllable though causing over 10,000 new cases daily over the past three days because symptoms are not severe and the numbers of seriously ill cases and new fatalities are stable, according to the Public Health Ministry.

 

Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul said there were more than 10,000 new COVID-19 cases a day for three days because of the highly contagious Omicron variant but it did not cause severe illness. Vaccination also helped prevent serious symptoms, he said.

 

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[Kenny202]

As if the figures were real, with all the highly trafficked markets in every location of Thailand, dense housing etc. Australia had over 50k cases a day within weeks. Anyway, we all remember the last three times he said everything was under control ????????????

[connda]

Until it isn't.  Government's, like Thailand, keep insisting they have control over Covid.
Hummm.  ???? No they don't.  Omicron has now arrived.  Look at every other country where Omicron has come, run rampant, and gone or is still raging.  Thailand is going to have a 'cases' curve that will mirror those other countries.  US, UK, Israel, EU, other ASEAN countries, India. Go back and look at those graphs in a year or two and they'll all look the same. 

"Look - a dip - we're doing something right!  We're controlling Covid <cheers>"

No. Covid is just running it's course as the virus mutates and the highly transmissible variants which are less virulent sweeps through the population <panic for the 3rd, 4th, or 5th time> and eventually - you've got natural herd immunity whether you want it or not..  Even the vaccinated break-through cases will have a more robust immunity by the time Covid turns into a season 'flu.'
I'm sure when it happens governments like Thailand will claim success.  That's simply hubris. 
Double jabbed, double-boosted, and...... Covid's gonna Covid - it's going to run it's course including end-running vaccines.  So it would be better to just accept it all and prepare to live with it.  Or not.  The flip side is to lock everything down once more and totally destroy the economy.
But absolutely - Continue the shots, continue the masking, continue social distance and hand washing, as it makes folks feel like they are in control and 'safe', but don't lock the country down again. Those businesses you lock down this time will be killed.  At some point it's gotta be accepted as endemic and live with it.  Those countries that accept to live with it will get their economic legs back under themselves once again; those who believe that they are controlling a tornado?  They'll cripple their economies for the foreseeable future as they wipe out their lower and middle classes.

[Kenny202]

22 minutes ago, connda said:

Until it isn't.  Government's, like Thailand, keep insisting they have control over Covid.
Hummm.  ???? No they don't.  Omicron has now arrived.  Look at every other country where Omicron has come, run rampant, and gone or is still raging.  Thailand is going to have a 'cases' curve that will mirror those other countries.  US, UK, Israel, EU, other ASEAN countries, India. Go back and look at those graphs in a year or two and they'll all look the same. 

"Look - a dip - we're doing something right!  We're controlling Covid <cheers>"

No. Covid is just running it's course as the virus mutates and the highly transmissible variants which are less virulent sweeps through the population <panic for the 3rd, 4th, or 5th time> and eventually - you've got natural herd immunity whether you want it or not..  Even the vaccinated break-through cases will have a more robust immunity by the time Covid turns into a season 'flu.'
I'm sure when it happens governments like Thailand will claim success.  That's simply hubris. 
Double jabbed, double-boosted, and...... Covid's gonna Covid - it's going to run it's course including end-running vaccines.  So it would be better to just accept it all and prepare to live with it.  Or not.  The flip side is to lock everything down once more and totally destroy the economy.
But absolutely - Continue the shots, continue the masking, continue social distance and hand washing, as it makes folks feel like they are in control and 'safe', but don't lock the country down again. Those businesses you lock down this time will be killed.  At some point it's gotta be accepted as endemic and live with it.  Those countries that accept to live with it will get their economic legs back under themselves once again; those who believe that they are controlling a tornado?  They'll cripple their economies for the foreseeable future as they wipe out their lower and middle classes.

Unless the Thais have some natural immunity? Funny story.... my son and friend both recently had covid back in Australia. Wasn't determined if Omicron or Delta etc but both of them very mild symptoms.... I would say less than a bad flu. Both vaccinated and boosted.

 

Soooooo...there are many ways of looking at this.

How did they get covid  when they had 2 vax and boosters?

or is Covid not as bad as they say...only in specific cases (old, already sick etc)

or would it have been a lot worse if they weren't vaxxed.

 

What ever side of the debate you were on you would have a case lol!

 

But back to Thailand....2 days after my friends wife from Thailand arrived in Australia, my friend was tested positive for covid. Living in a small Condo in Sydney together, you would think she was a certainty to get it. They both quarantined together in the same apartment, slept together, ate together. After 2 weeks she was still testing negative every day. He reckons it's all the horrible bacterial stuff she eats. Covid wont go near her 5555

[connda]

4 minutes ago, Kenny202 said:

Unless the Thais have some natural immunity? Funny story.... my son and friend both recently had covid back in Australia. Wasn't determined if Omicron or Delta etc but both of them very mild symptoms.... I would say less than a bad flu. Both vaccinated and boosted.

 

Soooooo...there are many ways of looking at this.

How did they get covid  when they had 2 vax and boosters?

or is Covid not as bad as they say...only in specific cases (old, already sick etc)

or would it have been a lot worse if they weren't vaxxed.

 

What ever side of the debate you were on you would have a case lol!

 

But back to Thailand....2 days after my friends wife from Thailand arrived in Australia, my friend was tested positive for covid. Living in a small Condo in Sydney together, you would think she was a certainty to get it. They both quarantined together in the same apartment, slept together, ate together. After 2 weeks she was still testing negative every day. He reckons it's all the horrible bacterial stuff she eats. Covid wont go near her 5555

True that.  It's a fact not everyone exposed to Covid gets it.
Some sort of natural immunity from previous exposure to SARS virus like common SARS-based colds or flus. 

For example.  My grandmother died of TB in a sanitarium before their were TB medications.  My father tested positive for TB his entire life by never had any symptoms.  I was exposed to TB at a job where I worked.  Almost every person in that group tested positive for TB.  Me? Negative.  And I was in very close proximity to our patient zero who was coughing and hacking around us all and all over us. 
So - inherent immunity of some sort?  I've never tested positive for TB later in life either.  So yeah - probably so.

The Immune System is a pretty wonderful thing imho. 

[Petey11]

24 minutes ago, Kenny202 said:

Unless the Thais have some natural immunity? Funny story.... my son and friend both recently had covid back in Australia. Wasn't determined if Omicron or Delta etc but both of them very mild symptoms.... I would say less than a bad flu. Both vaccinated and boosted.

 

Soooooo...there are many ways of looking at this.

How did they get covid  when they had 2 vax and boosters?

or is Covid not as bad as they say...only in specific cases (old, already sick etc)

or would it have been a lot worse if they weren't vaxxed.

 

What ever side of the debate you were on you would have a case lol!

 

But back to Thailand....2 days after my friends wife from Thailand arrived in Australia, my friend was tested positive for covid. Living in a small Condo in Sydney together, you would think she was a certainty to get it. They both quarantined together in the same apartment, slept together, ate together. After 2 weeks she was still testing negative every day. He reckons it's all the horrible bacterial stuff she eats. Covid wont go near her 5555

My daughter's been a very close contact 3 times now, tested everytime for a week, all negative. Told I can't fathom why she hasn't picked it up. Must be natural immunity as she is still a junior and no vaccination.

[Blumpie]

Wow... Thailand is really aligned with China now.  

No medical expert on the planet agrees with this approach.  The science agrees that it is completely impossible to control omicron.  

Just a little boy on a leash!

[LosLobo]

1 hour ago, Kenny202 said:

Australia had over 50k cases a day within weeks.

Actually it was 100k. That would translate on a population basis to 250k a day for Thailand.

[koratkarlos]

I think Thailand counts COVID differently than other countries.  If you are so sick that you must go to the hospital, then test positive, you are counted.  Otherwise not.  And it is Thailand's right to count this way.  So I believe the actual Omicron infection number is much higher than 10,000 cases per day but since people are not getting so sick then fewer people go to the hospital, less are counted, and so it goes.  Let's hope that the hospitizations stabilize and the natural immunity spreads as I am really tired of COVID isolation.  I see old videos of unmasked, fun, social events and remember these good days hoping not to wait too long before we return to a more normal existence 

[Kenny202]

I just don't think they go to hospital or get tested unless they really need to and that's probably how it should be. In other countries seems to be all about the numbers who are positive. Like the road toll tallies there. I'd be more interested in hospitalizations and deaths, and what number of those people were already old / sick. How are the numbers stacking up? Sounds like US in all sorts of trouble and son telling me hospitals in Australia are filling up? Is Omicron really milder than previous strains? Or are people just admitting themselves to hospital with mild symptoms just in case?

 

I for one know I wouldn't want to test or go to hospital unless I was on deaths door. God knows what the medical bills would be even if you never got sick 

[Moonlover]

27 minutes ago, koratkarlos said:

Let's hope that the hospitizations stabilize and the natural immunity spreads as I am really tired of COVID isolation.  I see old videos of unmasked, fun, social events and remember these good days hoping not to wait too long before we return to a more normal existence 

My thoughts as well. You reminded me of a paragraph in the Roosters weekly round up.

 

"only one in a thousand wore a mask and you could enjoy a Thai lady smiling coyly after you caught her glancing in your direction'.

 

I long for the day when we can finally dump the masks. (but not in the clongs though)

[ikke1959]

Controlable with more than 10.000 cases, but uncontrolable with 2.000 cases?? A few cases lockdowns and schools shut and curfews, 10.000 and more, schoolclusters in several provinces and  we relax restrictions .... nothing to worry.... I will never understand

[rtco]

One thing that helps natural immunity is Vitamin D ... exposure to the sun. When your skin is exposed to sunlight, it makes vitamin D from cholesterol. The sun's ultraviolet B (UVB) rays hit cholesterol in the skin cells, providing the energy for vitamin D synthesis to occur. Vitamin D has many roles in the body and is essential for optimal health. Thailand has lots of sun!

[Cake Monster]

About the only ting that is not under control, is Anutin,s Biscuit Chute.