Chelseafan Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/14/2022 at 2:15 PM, BarraMarra said: Where do you think all the hardware is coming from ? Where do you think the sanctions are coming from ? Where do you think the policies to reduce dependance on russia oil/gas are coming from ? Of course they are involved . This is what you posted Chelseafan. I'm missing your point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rudi49jr Posted November 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2022 How come Putin never bothered to visit the ‘liberated’ areas that were annexed by Russia? Maybe because he’s too much of a coward, unlike Zelensky. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, rudi49jr said: How come Putin never bothered to visit the ‘liberated’ areas that were annexed by Russia? Maybe because he’s too much of a coward, unlike Zelensky. Putin keeping a low profile: Putin wants to cancel his annual press conference for the first time in 10 years, Russian media report https://twitter.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1592091907056103424 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi49jr Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 After arriving in Indonesia for G20, Russian foreign minister Lavrov was taken to the hospital. Of course Lavrov dismissed this as fake news. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-14/ap-newsalert-indonesian-officials-russian-foreign-minister-sergey-lavrov-taken-to-hospital-after-arriving-for-g-20-summit-in ****Disallowed link removed**** 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BarraMarra Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 you said " Where do you think the hardware is coming from " software etc and other questions then you said " Of course, there involved in it " Chelseafan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BarraMarra Posted November 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) Winston Churchill was probably the greatest leader during a war with his speeches and leading from the front literally going near the front to show his leadership. Ukraine's President Zelensky is today's, great leader. Not like Putin hiding behind his desk lacking respect and having no confidence in his troops. Today not 2 days after Kherson's liberation he triumphantly strolled into the center of Kherson showing how a leader should lead from the front and speaking in English to the western jurno's whats Putin done? threatened his troops with the firing squad who refuse to fight. Edited November 14, 2022 by BarraMarra 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I had seen this video when it was mentioned earlier in the tread, brutal and sickening, taken down now from twitter. There are no words to describe Prigozhin the head of Wagner other than Barbarian and murderer. Ukraine war: Wagner chief Prigozhin defends brutal killing video The head of private Russian military group Wagner has defended a brutal video apparently showing the death of a mercenary who defected to Ukraine. Putin ally Yevgeny Prigozhin said unverified footage of Yevgeny Nuzhin, 55, being struck with a sledgehammer was "a dog's death for a dog". The convicted murderer announced in September he had changed sides. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63623285 Its also Prigozhin who recently admitted to interfering in the US elections. One of his companies was charged with it in the US although the Justice Department in 2020 moved to dismiss charges against two of the indicted firms, Concord Management and Consulting LLC and Concord Catering, saying they had concluded that a trial against a corporate defendant with no presence in the U.S. and no prospect of meaningful punishment even if convicted would likely expose sensitive law enforcement tools and techniques. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 A baiting off topic troll post and a couple of replies have been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi49jr Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Russia fired off another couple of missiles on Kyiv today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarraMarra Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) They waited till Lavrov had left Bali. Then fired off over 80 missiles in revenge more civilian homes were destroyed and infastructure. Edited November 15, 2022 by BarraMarra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 It's been claimed a Russian missile hit a grain silo in Poland and on the news a NATO meeting is being convened to discuss a response. Is this the beginning of WW3? Times like this bring the Gulf of Tonkin to my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi49jr Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: It's been claimed a Russian missile hit a grain silo in Poland and on the news a NATO meeting is being convened to discuss a response. Is this the beginning of WW3? Times like this bring the Gulf of Tonkin to my mind. Two Russian missiles hit NATO member Poland, killing at least two people. The sh*t may have just hit the fan….. Edited November 15, 2022 by rudi49jr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, rudi49jr said: Two Russian missiles hit NATO member Poland, killing at least two people. The sh*t may have just hit the fan….. Putin will say it was an accident and NATO will tell him to be more careful in the future and nothing more will come of it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarraMarra Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 The Russian defense minister has said its the West escalating the war and surprise surprise they denied it had nothing to do with it. Zelemsky has said Nato must act due to a Nato member being attacked it makes no difference if it was accidental or deliberate. Fragments of the missile is now being tested to identify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Putin will say it was an accident and NATO will tell him to be more careful in the future and nothing more will come of it Of course not. Putin will never admit any involvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 10 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Putin will say it was an accident and NATO will tell him to be more careful in the future and nothing more will come of it sadly enough but have to agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 10 hours ago, rudi49jr said: Two Russian missiles hit NATO member Poland, killing at least two people. The sh*t may have just hit the fan….. not confirmed yet, it appears it may be something else, investigation under way Biden doubts missile fired from Russia https://au.yahoo.com/news/biden-doubts-missile-fired-russia-030443898.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: It's been claimed a Russian missile hit a grain silo in Poland and on the news a NATO meeting is being convened to discuss a response. Is this the beginning of WW3? Times like this bring the Gulf of Tonkin to my mind. wouldn't expect anything else, besides denial, from the Ruskoffs WRAPUP 13-Blast kills two in Poland near Ukraine border, Russia denies its weapons involved https://au.yahoo.com/finance/news/wrapup-12-blast-kills-two-001101252.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Poland blast caused by missile fired by Ukrainian forces at incoming Russian missile - AP Nov 16 (Reuters) - Initial findings suggest that the missile that hit Poland was fired by Ukrainian forces at an incoming Russian missile, Associated Press reported on Wednesday, citing U.S. officials. https://www.reuters.com/world/poland-blast-caused-by-missile-fired-by-ukrainian-forces-incoming-russian-2022-11-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarraMarra Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Initial reports are saying it was a Ukrainian missile that brought down a Russian incoming Missile. if so must have been a big chunk to form a crater that size that hit the Polish farmer's field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LosLobo Posted November 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Poland blast caused by missile fired by Ukrainian forces at incoming Russian missile - AP Nov 16 (Reuters) - Initial findings suggest that the missile that hit Poland was fired by Ukrainian forces at an incoming Russian missile, Associated Press reported on Wednesday, citing U.S. officials. https://www.reuters.com/world/poland-blast-caused-by-missile-fired-by-ukrainian-forces-incoming-russian-2022-11-16 Whatever the reason it's still collateral damage from Putin's missile attack on Ukraine, Russia still needs to bear the responsibility for the blast. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 1 minute ago, LosLobo said: Whatever the reason it's still collateral damage from Putin's missile attack on Ukraine, Russia still needs to bear the responsibility for the blast. Absolutely, if there had been no mass missile strikes yet again then there would be no need for air defense 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarraMarra Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Even if it was a shot-down Russian missile Nato can now claim a reason to patrol the skies to prevent incidents like this from happening and if necessary intercept incoming missiles nr Nato borders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mac Mickmanus Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 1 hour ago, LosLobo said: Whatever the reason it's still collateral damage from Putin's missile attack on Ukraine, Russia still needs to bear the responsibility for the blast. Lets keep to the facts . This missile appears to be fired by Ukraine an it was a Ukrainian missile , although Putin is still responsible for the war in general 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Lets keep to the facts . This missile appears to be fired by Ukraine an it was a Ukrainian missile , although Putin is still responsible for the war in general And the reason it was fired is because a Russian missile was fired at unoccupied Ukraine. So Putin doesn't just have a general responsibility for the war, he's responsible for that Russian missile being fired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosLobo Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Lets keep to the facts . This missile appears to be fired by Ukraine an it was a Ukrainian missile , although Putin is still responsible for the war in general Where have I deviated from the facts. Nothing is confirmed yet as this is only a preliminary US assessment. "The missile that crashed in Poland on Tuesday, killing two people, was from a Ukrainian air-defense system, according to two senior Western officials briefed on preliminary U.S. assessments, but Poland is continuing its own investigation of the explosion." Missile That Hit Poland Likely Launched by Ukraine in Air Defense, Western Officials Say - WSJ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mavideol Posted November 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Lets keep to the facts . This missile appears to be fired by Ukraine an it was a Ukrainian missile , although Putin is still responsible for the war in general cause .... who started the war = Russia, shooting missiles all over Ukraine regardless of any collateral damages effect... innocent people being killed, neighboring countries and the entire world population being negatively affected by his madness 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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