Interesting Non-O visa extension question

[problemfarang]

Hi guys, 

Lets say someone married with a thai for a long time and extended his non-o using an agency. Extension is not the city they live in. Then after extension he got divorced a year later which is almost the time covid showed up and the leaving and coming back to thailand was not clear. 

 

So he decided not to report his divorce to immigration and extend his visa 1 year more using the same agency with ex wife documents with the knowledge of ex wife.

 

Now this year (july) extension time. He is about to get marry again with his girlfriend and before july. 

 

He can extend his non-o using salary income method in bangkok. As you can see he will extend it just like continue the old non-o, not getting a new one. He is planning to leave the country and get a new non-o when there are no more tests needed or else, hotel, etc.

 

Questions are here:

1) as mentioned non-o extension was done by agency in another city. First time extension was done when he was married. Second was done when he was not married. He will be married again in march just before the new extension. Do you think immigration will notice the date of marriage and they will be like wait a minute, how come? Or they will not even look at the marriage date.

 

2) if number 1 is not a problem, what about last extension was not in bangkok but another city, any problems here?

 

3) if 1 and 2 are not ok, his plan is to use the agency again with the new marriage papers and extend it 1 year more then if things get normal go out and get a new non-o also a new passport.

 

4) would a new passport trick work after he got married in march and can get an extension or what can he do?

 

Any other suggestions or advices are welcome.

 

Thanks.

[Will B Good]

Thought your wife had to accompany you to the IO?

Edited March 11, 2022 by Will B Good

[ubonjoe]

1. He has been on a overstay since the day his divorce was finalized and the ones after that were done fraudulently.

 He should leave the country and re-enter with a new non-o visa after he gets married.

2. How has he been doing 90 day reports. Others have had to submit a TM30 form to do their reports in Bangkok after the extension was done in another province.

3. He may have to do that to avoid getting caught for doing his extensions fraudulently after getting a new non-o visa.

4. That would not help since immigration will link his old and new passports.

He may be into big problems if he is not careful.

Not sure how the agent was able to the extension without a new Kor Ror 2 marriage registry after he got divorced.

[ubonjoe]

6 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Thought your wife had to accompany you to the IO?

Not if an agent is doing it at another office than where he is living.

[problemfarang]

13 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

1. He has been on a overstay since the day his divorce was finalized and the ones after that were done fraudulently.

 He should leave the country and re-enter with a new non-o visa after he gets married.

2. How has he been doing 90 day reports. Others have had to submit a TM30 form to do their reports in Bangkok after the extension was done in another province.

3. He may have to do that to avoid getting caught for doing his extensions fraudulently after getting a new non-o visa.

4. That would not help since immigration will link his old and new passports.

He may be into big problems if he is not careful.

Not sure how the agent was able to the extension without a new Kor Ror 2 marriage registry after he got divorced.

agency is doing his 90 days report. And he has 90 days report papers too. 

he gave the old kor Ror 2 he got probably 1 year before the divorce. he did his TM30 via mobile app 2 years ago. (this was done when he was still married and he not touched it since then because he never left the country).

the agency he is using is really good one. but only problem is they cannot do it in bangkok. if you are living in bangkok and use that agency your extension will be some Esan area city. 

 

well after your answers, this is his plan; to extend it again using the same agency with the new marriage papers. Then he will leave the country when everything get backs to normal and get a new non-o with a new passport and do his extensions using salary method.

 

thanks again

Edited March 11, 2022 by problemfarang

[problemfarang]

Will there be any problems when leaving thailand? Is it better if he get re-entry?

 

And will there be any problems at the thai embassy he will apply for a new non-o? Like why are you applying again, you already have, blah blah thing. His plan is going to laos

[blazes]

The most obvious solution to all this mish-mash is simply to not get married. Again. Failing that, at least postpone your nuptials until you have been back to your US home and after cogitating on this whole Romeo and Juliet matter, perhaps just ditch the marriage idea and begin the whole process of getting a new retirement visa.

There.  All sorted. (If you are over the age of 50).

Edited March 11, 2022 by blazes

[Pedrogaz]

4 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Thought your wife had to accompany you to the IO?

I have been without mine in the past.

[zyphodb]

4 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

1. He has been on a overstay since the day his divorce was finalized and the ones after that were done fraudulently.

 He should leave the country and re-enter with a new non-o visa after he gets married.

2. How has he been doing 90 day reports. Others have had to submit a TM30 form to do their reports in Bangkok after the extension was done in another province.

3. He may have to do that to avoid getting caught for doing his extensions fraudulently after getting a new non-o visa.

4. That would not help since immigration will link his old and new passports.

He may be into big problems if he is not careful.

Not sure how the agent was able to the extension without a new Kor Ror 2 marriage registry after he got divorced.

I renewed my marriage ext. 2 or 3 times, never needed a new Kor Ror 2, they were always happy with the original, Joe. Depends, like so much else here which office and which officer I suppose...

Edited March 11, 2022 by zyphodb

[chilly07]

That's why Immigration take photos of you and your wife when you apply for a marriage extension as well as those you supply yourself plus copies of her ID and up to date kor for 2. In addition they do random visits. Best to start again obtain a new non 0 outside the country. Better safe than sorry.   

Edited March 11, 2022 by chilly07

[problemfarang]

5 hours ago, chilly07 said:

That's why Immigration take photos of you and your wife when you apply for a marriage extension as well as those you supply yourself plus copies of her ID and up to date kor for 2. In addition they do random visits. Best to start again obtain a new non 0 outside the country. Better safe than sorry.   

thanks for the comment but immigration dont visit you if you use an agency, you can use the same family photos and also just give them all copy of your EX wife does the magic. thats how he did... 

[sometimewoodworker]

7 hours ago, chilly07 said:

That's why Immigration take photos of you and your wife when you apply for a marriage extension

That may happen in your immigration office it is far from universal and certainly doesn’t happen in mine. Certainly no random visits, only one time and by prearrangement on the first extension.

 

Be carful in thinking that your experience is true for others, remember the 2 golden rules TIT YMMV

 

Edited March 11, 2022 by sometimewoodworker