43 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

 

the same happened to me with byd ... i gave the head manager a deadline and told him i would cancel my order if nothing happened. suddenly everything went quickly, and i received my ordered car after a few more days ... 

sounds like you got someone else’s car…

I started thinking maybe I should have ordered the Sealion 7 AWD instead of another Seal AWD.

 

So we went for a test drive.

 

THE SL7 is much easier to get in and out of, it’s quieter and a nicer ride.  But it is a lot slower than the Seal.

 

I was expecting more boot space in the SL7, I’m not sure it will take our e-scooters without folding the seats down. We really enjoy our days out with them.

 

On balance I prefer the SL7 but I’m staying with the Seal.  I can justify my inner conscience buying the Seal and I can’t do that with the SL7. I may change again in 12-24 months and I’d feel guilty if that was the SL7.

Seems the fastest car carries outsize weight in your list of car desires/requirements although the higher acceleration really can't be used in normal, safe driving.   I mean just how fast does a person need to pull away from a stop light...just how fast must a person pass another vehicle...etc.   Heck, my little ol' Atto will quickly pass cars and quickly pull away from stop lights even in ECO mode.

 

Yes...maybe I'm trying to talk you out of buying a new MY2023 Seal to replace your current/used MY2023 Seal.   Your post seems to give the SL7 higher marks than the Seal but since the Seal is faster than the SL7 on the drag strip  then that outweighs everything else.....and that's fine because each person has their own scoring system for the car of their desires.    

 

 

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

I started thinking maybe I should have ordered the Sealion 7 AWD instead of another Seal AWD.

 

So we went for a test drive.

 

THE SL7 is much easier to get in and out of, it’s quieter and a nicer ride.  But it is a lot slower than the Seal.

 

I was expecting more boot space in the SL7, I’m not sure it will take our e-scooters without folding the seats down. We really enjoy our days out with them.

 

On balance I prefer the SL7 but I’m staying with the Seal.  I can justify my inner conscience buying the Seal and I can’t do that with the SL7. I may change again in 12-24 months and I’d feel guilty if that was the SL7.

 

the boot space of the byd sl7 is bigger than it looks ... i was surprised how much i could fit in the car boot when i had to move all my daughter’s belongings to her new place ... 

 

our byd sl7 awd is a spacious family car with more than enough power, but of course, it isn't a sports car and doesn’t drive like the byd seal awd ... 

The big, end of year Motor Expo event/promotion is only 6 weeks away.   Any predictions on which brands/models will offer the biggest promotions (i.e., price reductions)?    You know the type of price cuts that makes a recent buyer's blood boil...wish they had waited just a little longer to buy.

 

 

https://www.motorexpo.co.th/international_visitors/#:~:text=This Year's Concept,Public Holidays 11.00 - 22.00 hrs.

Another Luxury Car Brand Goes Woke

 

https://headlineusa.com/luxury-car-brand-goes-woke/

 

Just like Jaguar, Ferrari goes woke. Very sad indeed. Paying big money for an electric motor, crazy. 

9 minutes ago, Screaming said:

Another Luxury Car Brand Goes Woke

 

https://headlineusa.com/luxury-car-brand-goes-woke/

 

Just like Jaguar, Ferrari goes woke. Very sad indeed. Paying big money for an electric motor, crazy. 

This thread is for "EVs in Thailand"; not politics in the US.

I don’t use the full power of my Seal around town but making the journey between Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai, I use all of it and would like much more power. This road is the journey from hell.  3hrs 15 mins in an ordinary car, 2hrs 10mins in mine, rarely exceeding 120kmhr.

 

It's not just the power, it’s the handling too.  It’s not unusual to have 5-10 cars stuck behind a slow movie bus or big truck and it can go on up to 10km.  I need both the power and handling to pass them all or pass a few and duck back in.

 

If everybody had fast cars and the skill to use them, you wouldn’t get this long line of queuing cars waiting for a long gap.

 

People say about 2,000hp cars, you can’t use all the power.  Absolutely you can, and if you consider you can’t, can you use 1,000hp, 500hp? 250hp?

 

It's entirely down to the skill of the driver.

 

I don’t drive fast, I drive briskly.

 

I don’t think I could do the journey in the same time with a SL7 and it would take me a while to learn the cars limits.

Yea, it also takes this BMW driver about 2 hours to make the  Chiang Mai to Chiang Rai run...but like you said it requires brisk driving.  😉😊😉

 

 

 

23 minutes ago, Pib said:

Yea, it also takes this BMW driver about 2 hours to make the  Chiang Mai to Chiang Rai run...but like you said it requires brisk driving.  😉😊😉

 

 

 

 

That's not the Chiang Mai to Chiang Rai road.  How do you know it takes him about 2 hours Pib?

 

MGs latest EV hasn't been selling so well...another price cut on the D model (from 719,900 last time).

 

Two new sunroof models introduced and the long range battery changed from 64 kWh NMC to 62.2 kWh LFP...all three versions are now assembled in Thailand.

2 hours ago, matchar said:

 

MGs latest EV hasn't been selling so well...another price cut on the D model (from 719,900 last time).

 

Two new sunroof models introduced and the long range battery changed from 64 kWh NMC to 62.2 kWh LFP...all three versions are now assembled in Thailand.

Been selling quite well since available, and not much of a price cut / sale price.  In the top 15 selling, and only been available for 4 months.   Not bad at all 

 

 

Look how many registered per month, compared to others of the top 15.

 

Always had a less the MSRP  ... 739K / 709K / 699,990 ... now 669k.   Tough competition out there, and got to stay in the market.

 

Sept ... 12th in sales of 100+ models 

Aug ... 8th

July ... 10 th

June ... 10 th

7 hours ago, matchar said:

 

MGs latest EV hasn't been selling so well...another price cut on the D model (from 719,900 last time).

 

Two new sunroof models introduced and the long range battery changed from 64 kWh NMC to 62.2 kWh LFP...all three versions are now assembled in Thailand.

 

THB 910k is around 190k CHY........ in China this model sells for 150k CHY - you do the math.

On 10/13/2025 at 6:14 AM, Bandersnatch said:

 

Pretty disturbing news about Jaecoo.

 

Back in August I drove my mate to Roi Et to see the Jaecoo 5 EV. He put down a deposit on the Long Range max model in the green colour shown in the post above. We were told he could pick the car up tomorrow, but yesterday he was told that they had in fact sold his car to another customer. They hoped to get a replacement car for him "soon"

 

Currently no more information but I will post when I hear more.

 

 

I put in my order in on aug 20 and received my first ev car ( jaecoo 5ev) on sept 23rd. Now Learning to drive and charge my EV car . Thanks for information on this forum
 

23 hours ago, mistral53 said:

 

THB 910k is around 190k CHY........ in China this model sells for 150k CHY - you do the math.

It’s common for EV’s to cost more here than they do in China.

2 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

It’s common for EV’s to cost more here than they do in China.

So that went straight over your head.......... my point was, if a car sold in Thailand for 190k CHY after a massive discount, and the same car is fetching 150k in China, MG makes a bundle and could lower the price still more, and still make good money.

 

For Chinese car manufacturers, exporting cars is extremely lucrative, especially to Europe. Thailand........mehh.

On 10/12/2025 at 11:20 AM, matchar said:

"While no further details are available, the facelifted BYD Atto 3 is expected to launch in the Chinese market later this year, bolstering its competitiveness against rivals in the fiercely competitive electric vehicle market."

 

What launches in China is rarely available in Thailand...the Thai versions are usually old tech 1-2 years behind.

 

The BYD Seal in China has had 800V architecture for a long time already but it's still not available here.

The Sealion 7 in Europe is also 800V architecture, but 800V involves many different parts than 400v, and requires very skilled engineers to service it.

there is not a single 800V charger in Thailand that I know off.

 

so having 800V doesn't add too many benefits in Thailand, the main benefit is lower current and the use of Silicon Carbide in the Inverters and Controllers that are more efficient and are faster.

 

The new ATTO3 coming will have an upgrade motor with 100HP more, maybe they will take the motor that is on the Sealion7?

 

I'm looking to buy a new EV in January, the SL7 was my primary choice as it's the most comfortable and closest to my Toyota Fortuner feeling.

I gave up on it because of the tiny warranty, if BYD gave a 500K warranty I would buy it today. but now it's out of my list.

 

I am renting the SL7 for 12 days, and I love everything about the car, there is nothing to complain,. the stock suspension is already so good, the aircon is super powerful, and the car space is huge 

2 hours ago, brfsa2 said:

I'm looking to buy a new EV in January, the SL7 was my primary choice as it's the most comfortable and closest to my Toyota Fortuner feeling.

I gave up on it because of the tiny warranty, if BYD gave a 500K warranty I would buy it today. but now it's out of my list.

 

I am renting the SL7 for 12 days, and I love everything about the car, there is nothing to complain,. the stock suspension is already so good, the aircon is super powerful, and the car space is huge 

i assume (and of course hope) that the byd battery will not become unusable and need replacement after 8 years / 160'000 km ... the chance of having a total loss in a car accident on thailands streets seems higher to me ... 

 

according to your post, only an mg with a lifetime battery warranty would be an option for you, a choice i can well understand. mg has a good dealer network and also several good electric vehicles to choose from ... or choose a car whose battery can be repaired without major cost ... 

 

good luck with your choice ... 

 

 

6 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

i assume (and of course hope) that the byd battery will not become unusable and need replacement after 8 years / 160'000 km ... the chance of having a total loss in a car accident on thailands streets seems higher to me ... 

 

according to your post, only an mg with a lifetime battery warranty would be an option for you, a choice i can well understand. mg has a good dealer network and also several good electric vehicles to choose from ... or choose a car whose battery can be repaired without major cost ... 

 

good luck with your choice ... 

 

 

When I said "Tiny Warranty" I meant for my use case

I drive almost 60,000km a year, so 180,000km will run out in just 3 years. I saved a lot on the BYD atto3, specially since I only charge at home. it's 0.6Baht/KM for me.

Because it's so hot where I live here in the south, and there is flooding too, I want a car with at least 300,000-500,000 km warranty on the battery, so MG will do fine., let's see....

I'm gonna wait 3-6 more months before I decide, I use the Fortuner paying 3-5Baht per KM 😭

6 hours ago, brfsa2 said:

The Sealion 7 in Europe is also 800V architecture, but 800V involves many different parts than 400v, and requires very skilled engineers to service it.

there is not a single 800V charger in Thailand that I know off.

 

"Most" DC chargers in Thailand are rated for approx 250V on the low end to 1000V DC output...even a 120KW charger which are super common across Thailand is rated at up to 1000V output if needed like if charging an 800V architecture.   However, if that 120KW is hooked to 800V car its amperage output will be limited to approx 150 amps.   

 

Power = amps times voltage.  800V times 150A equals 120KW.....or 400V times 300A equals 120KW.

 

And there are quite a fewDC chargers now in Thailand that far exceed 120KW....like 150KW, 180KW, 360KW, 540KW, even 720KW.  Usually the 360KW and higher DC chargers are located in areas where E-buses and other type of large vehicles require charging since they have such huge batteries.  Such high KW chargers would be overkill for most EV on the road right now. 

 

Even a little ol' BYD Atto 400V system like I have can still use the high KW chargers; however, the Atto max charging rate is 88KW so that's all the DC charger will output even if hooked to 720KW charger.

 

Maybe what you were trying to say was there are not that many chargers in Thailand that can meet the full "KW" charging rate of those EV cars with an 800V system which can typically charge at 250KW and higher?

 

 

 

Anyone heard about this brand of EV? BAW International 

https://bawauto.com/

 

2 hours ago, ravip said:

Anyone heard about this brand of EV? BAW International 

https://bawauto.com/

 

Sounds like 1 of the 95 other Chinese brands nobody outside China has ever heard of - this one maybe because they chiefly made military vehicles for the last 56 years?

 

BAIC Group is one of the "Big Five" Chinese state-owned automobile manufacturers and is a major partner with companies like Hyundai and Mercedes-Benz in China.

Here’s a more detailed look:

1. Company Background

• Parent Company: BAIC Group (a Fortune Global 500 company).

• Core Focus: BAW itself has a long history, traditionally specializing in the manufacturing of commercial vehicles (trucks, vans, buses) and SUVs. They are particularly known for producing robust, utilitarian vehicles.

• Heritage: They have a reputation in China for building tough, no-frills vehicles, often compared to the early Land Rovers or Jeeps in their philosophy.

 

59 minutes ago, mistral53 said:

Sounds like 1 of the 95 other Chinese brands nobody outside China has ever heard of - this one maybe because they chiefly made military vehicles for the last 56 years?

 

BAIC Group is one of the "Big Five" Chinese state-owned automobile manufacturers and is a major partner with companies like Hyundai and Mercedes-Benz in China.

Here’s a more detailed look:

1. Company Background

• Parent Company: BAIC Group (a Fortune Global 500 company).

• Core Focus: BAW itself has a long history, traditionally specializing in the manufacturing of commercial vehicles (trucks, vans, buses) and SUVs. They are particularly known for producing robust, utilitarian vehicles.

• Heritage: They have a reputation in China for building tough, no-frills vehicles, often compared to the early Land Rovers or Jeeps in their philosophy.

 

 

To add the the above, BAIC & BAW parted ways about 10 yrs ago.  Sold off to a fund group, which was later acquired by another company, who's main interest is in textiles, strangely.

 

"EVs in TH"  ...  amazing how the topic is completely forgotten at times, and a simply Google would have told you anything you wanted to know about BAW.   Go figure 

 

Anyone ever heard of Zetta, EV auto maker ?

TIA

 

3 hours ago, ravip said:

Anyone heard about this brand of EV? BAW International 

https://bawauto.com/

 

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

 

To add the the above, BAIC & BAW parted ways about 10 yrs ago.  Sold off to a fund group, which was later acquired by another company, who's main interest is in textiles, strangely.

 

"EVs in TH"  ...  amazing how the topic is completely forgotten at times, and a simply Google would have told you anything you wanted to know about BAW.   Go figure 

 

Anyone ever heard of Zetta, EV auto maker ?

TIA

 

EVs in TH"  ...  amazing how the topic is completely forgotten at times,

 

TBH my question was directed in knowing if this brand was in Thailand. 

 

Sorry,  my question would have been not clear... life is amazing indeed, especially when we're in the twilight zone. 

3 hours ago, ravip said:

 

 

TBH my question was directed in knowing if this brand was in Thailand. 

 

 

Total new BEV (100% electric) vehicles in Thailand registered/sold during Jan-Sep 2025.  See weblink below for full 17 Oct 2025 article from autolifethailand.   BYD is still the 800 pound guerilla with the MG guerrilla weighing in at around 400 pounds.

 

And don't worry about Toyota only selling "1" BEV so far this year because with their "game changing" technology "that is always just around the corner" they may sell three times as many BEVs in Thailand next year.  

 

And Foton Motor has sold/registered 47 BEVs so far this year.

 

 

https://autolifethailand.tv/ev-bev-register-brands-jan-sep-2025/

October 17, 2025

Total registrations of 100% electric vehicles in Thailand for the first three quarters of 2025 (9 months: January - September) totaled 86,432 vehicles.

 

 

 

 

5 hours ago, Pib said:

Total new BEV (100% electric) vehicles in Thailand registered/sold during Jan-Sep 2025.  See weblink below for full 17 Oct 2025 article from autolifethailand.   BYD is still the 800 pound guerilla with the MG guerrilla weighing in at around 400 pounds.

 

And don't worry about Toyota only selling "1" BEV so far this year because with their "game changing" technology "that is always just around the corner" they may sell three times as many BEVs in Thailand next year.  

 

And Foton Motor has sold/registered 47 BEVs so far this year.

 

 

https://autolifethailand.tv/ev-bev-register-brands-jan-sep-2025/

October 17, 2025

Total registrations of 100% electric vehicles in Thailand for the first three quarters of 2025 (9 months: January - September) totaled 86,432 vehicles.

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for sharing. Will be Very interesting to see the figures after motorshow next month.

This year motorshow should be spectacular.  

On 10/17/2025 at 6:51 PM, Pib said:

"Most" DC chargers in Thailand are rated for approx 250V on the low end to 1000V DC output...even a 120KW charger which are super common across Thailand is rated at up to 1000V output if needed like if charging an 800V architecture.   However, if that 120KW is hooked to 800V car its amperage output will be limited to approx 150 amps.   

 

Power = amps times voltage.  800V times 150A equals 120KW.....or 400V times 300A equals 120KW.

 

And there are quite a fewDC chargers now in Thailand that far exceed 120KW....like 150KW, 180KW, 360KW, 540KW, even 720KW.  Usually the 360KW and higher DC chargers are located in areas where E-buses and other type of large vehicles require charging since they have such huge batteries.  Such high KW chargers would be overkill for most EV on the road right now. 

 

Even a little ol' BYD Atto 400V system like I have can still use the high KW chargers; however, the Atto max charging rate is 88KW so that's all the DC charger will output even if hooked to 720KW charger.

 

Maybe what you were trying to say was there are not that many chargers in Thailand that can meet the full "KW" charging rate of those EV cars with an 800V system which can typically charge at 250KW and higher?

 

 

 

Just to add a little to my above earlier post talking about charging of 800V and 400V EV battery architecture, today I did the weekly mother-in-law visit.  While the wife visited her mother and before going back to pick-up the wife,  I killed the time by taking some pics of nearby DC chargers "along with their Specs ID Plate" showing how much Volts DC they can output.  Also fed my face at a Burger King.

 

The first three chargers below were a PTT 180KW charger, a PTT 120KW charger, and an Elex (Elexa) 150KW charger....all three could provide 150 to 1000VDC output.   The forth charger was a small 50KW PEA charger....its VDC output was from 150 to only 500VDC.

 

So, the first three could provide the required/approx 800VDC required to charge an 800VDC EV battery system "without" the EV needing to take any additional steps to step-up the voltage like when charging from a DC charger that can only provide up to 500VDC.   

 

But an 800V EV "would still charge from a 500V charger" because the 800V EV most likely has a built-in DC-to-DC converter for charging purposes (i.e., steps-up voltage but this also steps down the amps) or the 800V EV uses a switch to split the 800V battery pack into two 400V packs "while charging"....after charging its switched back to an 800V pack.

 

Different ways car manufacturers can build/design their EV battery/charging system to charge from lower power DC chargers typically in the 20KW to 50KW range "where the output may only be 500VDC max."  

 

However, DC chargers with only 500VDC max output are fading from the scene as newer 20-50KW DC chargers can also output up to 1000VDC.   DC 20-40KW DC chargers are becoming more popular at locations like condo buildings, businesses, shopping malls, etc., because physically they are only about twice the physical size of a 7kW AC wall charger like many of us have at home but can charge much faster and don't require a huge amount of power from the local electric lines.....see last pic below of a 20KW DC charger and its specs (a 1000VDC spec).

 

PTT 180KW Charger...seem to be slowly replacing PTT 120KW chargers.

 

And its specs ID plate showing it can output from 50 to 1000VDC

 

 

PTT 120KW Charger....very common at many PTT stations.

 

And its specs ID plate showing it can output 150 to 1000VDC

 

 

Elex (Elexa) 150KW charger

 

And its specs ID plate showing it can output 150 to 1000VDC

 

 

PEA 50KW (fifty) Charger (older model)

 

And its specs ID plate showing it can output 150 to 500VDC.  

 

 

 

A 20KW DC charger....about twice the physical size of a typical 7KW AC wall charger....outputs up to 1000VDC.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, brfsa2 said:

 

Thanks for sharing. Will be Very interesting to see the figures after motorshow next month.

This year motorshow should be spectacular.  

 

Yeap....no doubt many people will be reserving/ordering their Christmas present.  Happy Times...Ho...Ho....Ho. 😊

 

But at the same time it will turn some "recent buyers" into mad, upset Grinches as there will surely be motor show / end of year price-cuts on many models....very healthy price cuts. 😡

 

 

4 hours ago, Pib said:

A 20KW DC charger....about twice the physical size of a typical 7KW AC wall charger....outputs up to 1000VDC.

 

Thanks a lot for the highly educated posts and pictures!

I've been looking for this info. 

 

Can you share link of the DC models? 

Wondering how much the 20kw DC charger needs from AC? 

And if a 3phase 11 or 22kw AC charger might be better. Thinking for a future plans...the 3P charger are much cheaper however most accessible cars are up to 11 kw AC Charging only. 

 

Besides it's not everywhere that you can have 400v lines. Has to be commercial isn't?