On 12/1/2025 at 9:10 PM, Eano said:

I have had an MG4 EV for nearly 4 years which has been amazingly reliable. I could complain about a few minor design issues and annoyances (to me) but certainly not the reliability.

Really? Four years? Is the MG4 in the Thai market for so long?

14 hours ago, mistral53 said:

Half way through first 6 days ! Car reservation total in the 42nd Motor Expo 2025 (28 Nov – 3 Dec 68) : Total 24,044 cars | 1st place Toyota 4,112 cars followed by 2nd place BYD 2,303 cars and 3rd place Honda 1,985 cars.

 

Still astonishing how Toyota can persuade customers to buy their ICE cars. Who with his right mind would buy an ICE car nowadays?

50 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

One number was how many times the car was charged (to any degree), the other was the number of battery cycles.

 

I got the warranty document for the lifetime warranty.  It is transferrable between spouses and legal sons/daughters.

 

They agree to replace the battery with another of not lower SoH, it may be used, drive electronics and motors are also covered.

 

My translation below.

 

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Battery Lifetime Warranty Package for BYD Electric Vehicles (from December 3, 2025 to December 31, 2025)

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Terms and Conditions Battery Lifetime Warranty Package for BYD Electric Vehicles (from 3 December 2025 to 31 December 2025) (the "Campaign")

Campaign details and duration

This campaign is held to promote the following electric vehicles:

1. BYD DOLPHIN electric vehicles
2. New BYD DOLPHIN electric vehicles
3. BYD Electric Vehicle BYD ATTO 3 MY 23
4. New BYD ATTO 3 MY 24 electric car
5. All BYD SEAL electric vehicles
6. BYD SEALION 7 electric vehicle
7. BYD M6 Electric Vehicle All sub-models
8. BYD SEALION 6
9. BYD SEAL 5 DM-i Premium

(collectively or interchangeably referred to as "Electric Vehicles Participating in the Campaign").
From 3 December 2025 to 31 December 2025 ("Campaign Period")

Customers who request to purchase a lifetime battery warranty package with the Company's dealers from November 28, 2025 to December 2, 2025 will be exempt from the Problem Analysis Tool (VDS) and can change the ownership of electric vehicles participating in the campaign. Legal spouse Legal parents or legal children can be selected according to the terms and conditions of this campaign.

rule Methods, Conditions and Conditions for Participation in the Campaign

1. Criteria and Procedures for Participating in the Campaign
   1. Campaign Participation Criteria

      Customers must pass the initial inspection criteria by the Company's vendors. as follows

      1. Only customers who own or occupy electric vehicles who participate in the campaign as listed in the vehicle registration book, and
      2. Electric vehicles that participate in the customer campaign will be able to participate in this campaign. The service life must not exceed 8 years or have a range of not more than 160,000 kilometers (whichever comes first) and an average operating distance of not more than 50,000 kilometers per year, and
      3. Electric vehicles participating in the campaign must be inspected for the external condition of the High Voltage Battery, Drive Motor and Drive Motor Control Unit (PDC) by March 31, 2026 at the service center of the Company's dealer. No defects Intact There are no signs of impact, cracking, breaking or damage and can still be used normally.
      4. Vehicles used for commercial use and use outside of Thailand are not eligible to participate in this campaign.
   2. How to apply for a lifetime battery warranty package

      Customers who meet the requirements specified in Clause 1.1 can participate in the Campaign by requesting to purchase a Lifetime Battery Warranty Package. ("Battery Lifetime Warranty Package") at a price of 5,000 Baht (VAT included) ("Package Fee") Within the Campaign Period. The following steps must be taken:

      1. The customer must make an appointment with the Company's distributor to contact the Company to request to purchase the Lifetime Battery Warranty package and check the eligibility according to Clause 1.1 (1) – (2).
      2. If the customer meets the criteria specified in Clause 1.1 (1) – (2), the customer must pay the full amount of the package to the Company's dealer within the campaign period and make an appointment for an external inspection by the Company's dealer according to Clause 1.1 (3) by March 31, 2026.
      3. The customer must inspect the exterior condition according to Clause 1.1 (3) by 31 March 2026.
      4. After the inspection under Clause 1.1 (3), the Company will send the terms and conditions of this campaign to the Customer via the Customer's email so that the Customer can confirm their understanding and consent, as well as confirm the payment for the purchase of the Lifetime Battery Warranty Package within 3 working days. After the customer has undergone an inspection under Clause 1.1 (3).
   3. Lifetime Battery Warranty Package Approval Procedure
      1. Upon completion of Clause 1.2, the Company will send an email of the inspection result and/or the result of the lifetime battery warranty to the Customer in accordance with the customer's email address in Clause 1.2 (3) within 15 working days from the date of the customer's confirmation under Clause 1.2 (4).
      2. If the customer meets the criteria for participating in the campaign, the customer will receive a message confirming the lifetime battery warranty with the terms and conditions of this campaign, but if the customer does not meet the criteria for participating in the campaign, the customer will receive a message notifying the inspection result and the company's dealer will return the package to the customer within 7 working days from the date of receiving the email notifying the result according to Clause 1.3 (1).
2. Campaign benefit details

   Customers who participate in this campaign will receive special benefits as follows:

Exclusive Privileges

Electric vehicles participating in the campaign

Lifetime warranty for High Voltage Battery, Drive Motor and Drive Motor Control Unit (PDC) valued at 50,000 Baht

This lifetime warranty is only available to customers who purchase a lifetime battery warranty package under this campaign. The rights cannot be transferred to another person except for the change of owner and/or ownership of the electric vehicle participating in the campaign to the legal spouse. Legal parents or legitimate children. All maintenance of participating electric vehicles must be carried out by BYD authorized service centers only. The lifetime warranty will be reduced to 8 years or 160,000 kilometers (whichever comes first) with immediate effect in the following cases: The lifetime warranty will be reduced to 8 years or 160,000 kilometers (whichever comes first) with immediate effect in the following cases: In the event of a change in the owner and/or owner of the electric vehicle participating in the campaign, except for the change of owner and/or owner of the ownership to the legal spouse. Legal parent or legal child Electric vehicles participating in the Campaign are not serviced according to the service intervals specified in the maintenance record. In other words, the service is more than 1,000 kilometers or more than 1 month before or after the specified cycle (whichever comes first). Electric vehicles participating in the campaign must have a mileage of more than 50,000 kilometers per year. Registration of vehicles for commercial use and use outside Thailand In the event that it is necessary to replace the High Voltage Battery under the warranty conditions and the participating electric vehicle has a service life of more than 8 years or a mileage of more than 160,000 kilometers (whichever comes first), the High Voltage Battery will be replaced with a State of Health (SOH) equal to or less than the customer's current High Voltage Battery. The replaced High Voltage Battery does not have to be a new one that has not been used. The warranty conditions for the High Voltage Battery, Drive Motor and Drive Motor Control Unit (PDC) are only in accordance with the requirements in the warranty manual and maintenance record and the operating instruction manual. Failure to comply with the warranty conditions specified in the warranty manual and maintenance record and instruction manual will result in the termination of the warranty of the High Voltage Battery, Drive Motor and Drive Motor Control Unit (PDC) without prior notice to the customer.

3. Campaign limitations
   1. The company reserves the right to refuse to provide benefits under this campaign. If the customer does not fully comply with the terms and conditions set out in the campaign, they will not be able to do so.
   2. This campaign cannot be used in conjunction with other campaigns or promotions.
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   2. The privileges under this campaign are limited to purchases made with the Company's vendors only.
   3. The benefits under this campaign cannot be exchanged for cash, discounts, freebies or anything else.
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   6. The Company may change, amend or supplement the terms and conditions of the Campaign as announced by the Company from time to time (if any) through the Company's various channels such as Facebook (BYD RÊVER Thailand) or the Company's Website (https://www.reverautomotive.com), etc.
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This statement seems a bit strange:

 

“In the event that it is necessary to replace the High Voltage Battery under the warranty conditions and the participating electric vehicle has a service life of more than 8 years or a mileage of more than 160,000 kilometers (whichever comes first), the High Voltage Battery will be replaced with a State of Health (SOH) equal to or less than the customer's current High Voltage Battery. The replaced High Voltage Battery does not have to be a new one that has not been used.“

 

Equal to or less than ??

29 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

 

This statement seems a bit strange:

 

“In the event that it is necessary to replace the High Voltage Battery under the warranty conditions and the participating electric vehicle has a service life of more than 8 years or a mileage of more than 160,000 kilometers (whichever comes first), the High Voltage Battery will be replaced with a State of Health (SOH) equal to or less than the customer's current High Voltage Battery. The replaced High Voltage Battery does not have to be a new one that has not been used.“

 

Equal to or less than ??

 

Looks very much like a clause to prevent people demanding a new battery after 8 years. Quite likely that any second hand battery used for warranty repair will meet minimum functional criteria.
 

30 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

High Voltage Battery will be replaced with a State of Health (SOH) equal to or less than the customer's current High Voltage Battery. 

I think it is a miss translation

45 minutes ago, Fruit Trader said:

 

Looks very much like a clause to prevent people demanding a new battery after 8 years. Quite likely that any second hand battery used for warranty repair will meet minimum functional criteria.
 

In 8 years time, they'll probably have it sorted to replace the battery with a new one, in one day.

Like visiting a wrecking yard or changing your gas bottle.

 

Well, I don’t think that “ quite likely “, “ miss translation “ or “ probably “ are adequate excuses for an official document error.

 

Take the scenario of someone driving 40k a year ( we have seen such high mileage on EV’s on FB Marketplace for example ) after 4 years he could run out of 8 year/160k warranty and if his battery decides to take a large dump he would be expecting a replacement battery with at least 70% SOH I would imagine.

 

The document I got was in Thai language, I translated it, I think we would have to look at the Thai language to see what it says

59 minutes ago, carlyai said:

In 8 years time, they'll probably have it sorted to replace the battery with a new one, in one day.

Like visiting a wrecking yard or changing your gas bottle.

 

 

The speed at which a battery can be changed (average 5 hours) does not change a car manufacturers economic strategy for managing costs when applying lifetime warranties. A warranty guarantees a repair to a minimum standard, not a free upgrade. The bean counters decide how lifetime warranties pan out over time. 

 

Lifetime warranties are a powerful marketing tool but a classic conflict between marketing a promise and financial cost.

 

In order to protect reputation I believe the likes of MG and BYD will honour lifetime warranties to the terms provided but they most certainly will not be giving out free lunches
 

13 minutes ago, Fruit Trader said:

 

The speed at which a battery can be changed (average 5 hours) does not change a car manufacturers economic strategy for managing costs when applying lifetime warranties. A warranty guarantees a repair to a minimum standard, not a free upgrade. The bean counters decide how lifetime warranties pan out over time. 

 

Lifetime warranties are a powerful marketing tool but a classic conflict between marketing a promise and financial cost.

 

In order to protect reputation I believe the likes of MG and BYD will honour lifetime warranties to the terms provided but they most certainly will not be giving out free lunches
 

 

Not rocket science, chose a reliable company & read the warranty, with any purchase.   I would trust all 4 CN auto companies offering lifetime warranties, knowing their limitations of course.

 

The warranties are added protection, but I think in reality, few will own the vehicles or they will even last, as long as the new batteries will.   Who owns vehicles more than 500k kms, or even 300k.   I don't think I kept any vehicle of mine or they made it to 200k kms.

 

I do expect our MG ZS to maybe make it to 500k kms, although I won't, nor will the wife.

3 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

 

This statement seems a bit strange:

 

“In the event that it is necessary to replace the High Voltage Battery under the warranty conditions and the participating electric vehicle has a service life of more than 8 years or a mileage of more than 160,000 kilometers (whichever comes first), the High Voltage Battery will be replaced with a State of Health (SOH) equal to or less than the customer's current High Voltage Battery. The replaced High Voltage Battery does not have to be a new one that has not been used.“

 

Equal to or less than ??

Think it must be a translation error both the reverautomotive web page and car250 site have NOT added to their pages

In the event that it is necessary to replace a high-voltage battery (High Voltage Battery) under warranty conditions, a high-voltage battery (High Voltage Battery) with a State of Health (SOH) value greater than or equal to the current high-voltage battery (High Voltage Battery) will be replaced, but not less than 70%. The high-voltage battery (High Voltage Battery) that is replaced does not need to be a new, unused battery.

https://www.reverautomotive.com/news/byd-battery-lifetime-warranty-campaign

https://www.car250.com/byd-battery-lifetime-warranty-1.html

7 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

One number was how many times the car was charged (to any degree), the other was the number of battery cycles.

 

I got the warranty document for the lifetime warranty.  It is transferrable between spouses and legal sons/daughters.

 

They agree to replace the battery with another of not lower SoH, it may be used, drive electronics and motors are also covered.

 

My translation below.

 

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Battery Lifetime Warranty Package for BYD Electric Vehicles (from December 3, 2025 to December 31, 2025)

https://www.reverautomotive.com/_next/image?url=%2Fimages%2Ficon%2Fclock.webp&w=48&q=755 min read

Terms and Conditions Battery Lifetime Warranty Package for BYD Electric Vehicles (from 3 December 2025 to 31 December 2025) (the "Campaign")

Campaign details and duration

This campaign is held to promote the following electric vehicles:

1. BYD DOLPHIN electric vehicles
2. New BYD DOLPHIN electric vehicles
3. BYD Electric Vehicle BYD ATTO 3 MY 23
4. New BYD ATTO 3 MY 24 electric car
5. All BYD SEAL electric vehicles
6. BYD SEALION 7 electric vehicle
7. BYD M6 Electric Vehicle All sub-models
8. BYD SEALION 6
9. BYD SEAL 5 DM-i Premium

(collectively or interchangeably referred to as "Electric Vehicles Participating in the Campaign").
From 3 December 2025 to 31 December 2025 ("Campaign Period")

Customers who request to purchase a lifetime battery warranty package with the Company's dealers from November 28, 2025 to December 2, 2025 will be exempt from the Problem Analysis Tool (VDS) and can change the ownership of electric vehicles participating in the campaign. Legal spouse Legal parents or legal children can be selected according to the terms and conditions of this campaign.

 

 

Thanks for the clarification.   

 

My OBD2 data app/hardware does show the "number of times charged."  Now that could mean a person maybe did a 10% today and say a 30% charge tomorrow....that would equate to 2 charge times based on what my OBD2 software/dongle retrieves.  

 

But it does not show "number of battery cycles" if what they mean by cycles is when a complete 0 to 100% has accumulated resulting in a count of 1.,,,,Or two charges of 50% equating to a count of 1...Or say a 25% charge, another 25% charge and then a 50% charge (totals 100%) equating to a count of 1...etc     My software/dongle does report the number of times charge reaches the 100% SOC....but as mentioned before the way it counts is a person charges from 0 to 100% that counts as 1 or if a person charges from 99% to 100% that counts as 1....but if a person never charged to 100% then the count never increases as the trigger for a count is hitting 100% SOC.   But I'm sure BYD OBD2 equipment can retrieve OBD2 data (possibly proprietary data) that a run-of-mill OBD2 device can not retrieve.  

 

Also, I noticed that the conditions of ownership transfer changed from their 28 Nov announcement and their 3 Dec announcement.   The 28 Nov announcement said:   Quote:   The lifetime warranty will be reduced to 8 years or 160,000 kilometers (whichever comes first) with immediate effect in the following cases:   In the event of a change in the ownership of an electric vehicle participating in the campaign, except for transfers to a legal spouse.  End Quote

 

28 Nov 2025 Announcement weblink:

  https://www.reverautomotive.com/news/byd-battery-lifetime-warranty-existing-customers-campaign?fbclid=IwY2xjawObrwNleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFBN0dlOXZLWDhwZ1NsWjN1c3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHklTgdWpkhyxOIo7U8LD592G6u_M4Nqdcq9XIxSfOCPj5zl1a62Xy2pDHvoe_aem_qIFzR0fCNE4-kYLIeIEkhQ

 

However, their 3 Dec announcement says:   Quote:  This lifetime warranty is only for customers who purchase a lifetime battery warranty package under this campaign and cannot be transferred to others, except for a change of ownership and/or title of the participating electric vehicle to a legal spouse, legal father or mother, or legal child.

 

3 Dec 2025 Announcement weblink

https://www.reverautomotive.com/news/byd-battery-lifetime-warranty-package-existing-customers-campaign

 

 

So, BYD/Rever loosened-up warranty transfer options which is good....instead of just to your legal spouse they changed to legal spouse, legal father or mother, or legal child.   Hey, your BYD vehicle can now  be kinda like a family heirloom....just keep the car within the family and continue to drive it till the wheels won't stay on any longer.  Or maybe say a father passes the car ownership to their 18 year old daughter who then continues to drive the car for many years until her son reaches the age of 18 and Mom passes ownership....then the son drives the car for years and gets married, has a kid, drives the car for another couple of decades and passes the car ownership to his kid.  Repeat this process for generations to come. 

 

Wow, BYD has turned ownership of a BYD vehicle into a car a family could maybe drive forever.....I sure hope BYD has a couple hundred years worth of batteries for that 2023 Atto, Seal, Dolphin, etc.  And I didn't see anywhere that the number of transfers was limited.  😃

7 hours ago, CLW said:

 

Still astonishing how Toyota can persuade customers to buy their ICE cars. Who with his right mind would buy an ICE car nowadays?

Mr Toyota has cast a spell over them.  

 

But on a serious note,  Toyoto definitely makes good ICE/HEV vehicles...it's just the majority of people are not ready to make the jump to BEV (100% electric).  And the common man who prefers & needs a  truck has good reason not to make the jump yet as most BEV trucks are still at the "gentleman's" stage and don't have enough range for the driver who can't afford the time to recharge once or twice during the work day...on a long run....hauling stuff all the time.   

 

Now some "businesses" operating BEV trucks under a fleet concept that's a different story with certain businesses switching to BEV trucks tailored to their transportation needs.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Pib said:

Mr Toyota has cast a spell over them.  

 

But on a serious note,  Toyoto definitely makes good ICE/HEV vehicles...it's just the majority of people are not ready to make the jump to BEV (100% electric).  And the common man who prefers & needs a  truck has good reason not to make the jump yet as most BEV trucks are still at the "gentleman's" stage and don't have enough range for the driver who can't afford the time to recharge once or twice during the work day...on a long run....hauling stuff all the time.   

 

Now some "businesses" operating BEV trucks under a fleet concept that's a different story with certain businesses switching to BEV trucks tailored to their transportation needs.

 

 

 

Hmm 🤔 

 

But do you think the majority of the sold Toyota cars are pick ups?

And knowing Thai people are very stingy, they should choose Isuzu over Toyota because their trucks are cheaper 

23 minutes ago, CLW said:

Hmm 🤔 

 

But do you think the majority of the sold Toyota cars are pick ups?

And knowing Thai people are very stingy, they should choose Isuzu over Toyota because their trucks are cheaper 

No, the majority of Toyota's sold in Thailand are cars vs trucks.....but many trucks are sold....and I expect trucks are kept longer than cars which reduces the frequency of truck purchases.  Toyota sells around 6,000 personal trucks (RY3 category) per month.  Isuzu around 4,000 personal trucks per month.   

 

  

On 12/3/2025 at 10:09 AM, Pib said:

Last night while doing my nightly viewing of Youtube videos to fall asleep I stumbled across this Thai guy's video on EV lifetime battery warranties offered in Thailand.  He was doing it as part of the Motor Expo 2025 ongoing motor show. The video says so far there are only four EV manufacturers offering lifetime battery warranties who are MG, BYD, GAC, and Wuling.   In the latter half of the video he expresses his view of what "lifetime" really means which basically boils down to 10 years after a  model is discontinued.   The video has an auto-dubbed English sound track...you may need to select the English sound track if your Youtube setup does not do it automatically.

 

I did some Google AI searches on the battery lifetime warranties offered by MG, BYD, GAC, and Wuling...and quoted those summaries below.  MG's lifetime warranty is the less restrictive in terms of warranty transfer....BYD, GAC, and Wuling have limitations on warranty transferability.   And of course refer to the manufacturers website for latest/full battery warranty details and AI answers may not accurately/fully reflect warranty terms and conditions.

 

 

 

 

Below are some Google AI search results regarding battery lifetime warranties.

 

MG Lifetime Battery Warranty

 

 

 

 

BYD Lifetime Battery Warranty

 

 

Wuling Lifetime Battery Warranty

 

GAC Lifetime Battery Warranty

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Add another to the lifetime battery warranty....the Changan Deepal S05.   See below car250 weblink for more details...and I included some partial quotes below also such as the ownership transfer provision. 

 

 Looks like when MG began offering a lifetime battery warranty it started to force competitors to follow suit.  I expect we'll see more brands/models start offering lifetime battery warranties over the coming year in order to "Keep Up With the Joneses" and to use it as a sales promotion.

 

https://www.car250.com/deepal-s05-bev-th-2025-12.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

16 minutes ago, Pib said:

 

Add another to the lifetime battery warranty....the Changan Deepal S05.   See below car250 weblink for more details...and I included some partial quotes below also such as the ownership transfer provision. 

 

 Looks like when MG began offering a lifetime battery warranty it started to force competitors to follow suit.  I expect we'll see more brands/models start offering lifetime battery warranties over the coming year in order to "Keep Up With the Joneses" and to use it as a sales promotion.

 

https://www.car250.com/deepal-s05-bev-th-2025-12.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Deepal S05 looks like a good car and probably the most efficient SUV. They just added a new version with a bigger battery, bigger wheels and a more powerful motor for 999k too.

 

It has been selling well so far (October Sales):

 

The lifetime warranty deal looks a bit restrictive though...I'm not going to the motor show so let's see if they extend the deal which they probably will eventually.

 

Also BYD (8 years) has a better warranty on the car than Deepal (5 years).

Do we need a 3rd BEV? 

 

Apparently my wife thinks so...

 

upto 86kWh battery 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Pib said:

 

Add another to the lifetime battery warranty....the Changan Deepal S05.   See below car250 weblink for more details...and I included some partial quotes below also such as the ownership transfer provision. 

 

 Looks like when MG began offering a lifetime battery warranty it started to force competitors to follow suit.  I expect we'll see more brands/models start offering lifetime battery warranties over the coming year in order to "Keep Up With the Joneses" and to use it as a sales promotion.

 

https://www.car250.com/deepal-s05-bev-th-2025-12.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think you will find it was MG playing catchup to Neta lifetime battery warranty which started in June 2024

https://www.neta.co.th/en/news/brands-pr-news/smartchoicecampaign#:~:text=Customers

29 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

Do we need a 3rd BEV? 

 

Apparently my wife thinks so...

 

upto 86kWh battery 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Looks beautiful...Christmas is just around the corner. 🙂

26 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

I think you will find it was MG playing catchup to Neta lifetime battery warranty which started in June 2024

https://www.neta.co.th/en/news/brands-pr-news/smartchoicecampaign#:~:text=Customers

That's why when shopping, you pick an auto maker that's been around longer (70 yrs) with a bit more experience.   SAIC, being the largest of the 'Big Four' state (CN) owned auto makers, never hurts either 

 

Explains my recommendations on the 'wrong car' thread, all well established companies.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1380831-looking-for-the-wrong-car/#findComment-20258233

 

Even got a 👎 from some ignoramus 

 

I thought (wrongly) that the OTA update would update the electronic system Maps as well.

Most of you probably know this already, but there is a Thailand and NE Thailand maps update plus other geo. areas of Thailand maps update that are manually updatable.

Nearly able to get my car HOME without going everywhere.

 

40 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

Do we need a 3rd BEV? 

 

Apparently my wife thinks so...

 

upto 86kWh battery 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It looks nice but even with the giant battery the range is pretty terrible due to the boxy shape.

 

Deepal S05 is more appealing to me due to the low drag coefficient of 0.25 which is only beaten by Tesla's Model Y (0.22) in the SUV class.

I'm not a fan of that big "visibility destroying" panel on the sides at the rear.  Otherwise I like the look of it a lot.

 

I'm not sure it's suitable for a "wife" to attempt to put in reverse gear....

24 minutes ago, carlyai said:

I thought (wrongly) that the OTA update would update the electronic system Maps as well.

Most of you probably know this already, but there is a Thailand and NE Thailand maps update plus other geo. areas of Thailand maps update that are manually updatable.

Nearly able to get my car HOME without going everywhere.

 

The Seal Navigation ( which I am presuming is very similar to the SL 7 ) been disappointing all along despite a few updates.

I did find the manual update buried in the settings some time ago but it seemed to change nothing.

 

Seems like Navigation in EU gained Google assistance which apparently improved a lot of functionality, no such luck here.

Google Maps still reigns for me.

54 minutes ago, matchar said:

It looks nice but even with the giant battery the range is pretty terrible due to the boxy shape.

 

Deepal S05 is more appealing to me due to the low drag coefficient of 0.25 which is only beaten by Tesla's Model Y (0.22) in the SUV class.

 

At the moment we use our BYD Seal for longer trips and our BYD M6 for transporting family and bulky items around town. 

 

If we were to buy one it would definitely be the wife's car

(Happy Wife, Happy Life)

 

As our cars are charged from solar I'm not bothered about efficiency.

 

 

At our BYD Seal's 2 year service they said they wanted to change our 12v Li battery, so we are at BYD getting that done and doing the Lifetime warranty inspection. We won't bother doing it for the BYD M6 as we might be changing soon!

 

 

 

14 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

 

At the moment we use our BYD Seal for longer trips and our BYD M6 for transporting family and bulky items around town. 

 

If we were to buy one it would definitely be the wife's car

(Happy Wife, Happy Life)

 

As our cars are charged from solar I'm not bothered about efficiency.

 

You got 2 cars, you really need a truck ...

 

8 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

 

You got 2 cars, you really need a truck ...

 

 

I bought a pickup when I was building my house and it handled like a wayward supermarket trolley.

 

I now get my bulky items delivered and enjoy the experience of driving a flying carpet instead.

28 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

At our BYD Seal's 2 year service they said they wanted to change our 12v Li battery, so we are at BYD getting that done and doing the Lifetime warranty inspection. We won't bother doing it for the BYD M6 as we might be changing soon!

 

 

 

I thought the whole point of the 12V LFP batteries is they are supposed to last much longer.

 

My lead acid batteries usually last longer than 2 years.

 

Do you have to pay for the replacement?