Opinion: Stop spreading misinformation about marijuana, educate the public

[webfact]

 

By Erich Parpart

 

Misinformation concerning Thailand’s new marijuana laws spiraled rampantly last week, especially from government agencies.

 

First, Bangkok governor Chadchart Sittipunt claimed on Tuesday that the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) found the world’s first case of a person who died from marijuana overdose. That was a baffling statement. 

 

About a day later on Wednesday, he walked that ill-informed claim, admitting that officials should see the autopsy report in detail.

 

By Wednesday evening, the autopsy report was released. It showed that the 51-year-old had an underlying disease that resulted in death from heart failure. 

 

Full story: https://www.thaienquirer.com/40967/opinion-stop-spreading-misinformation-about-marijuana-educate-the-public/

 

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[bkk6060]

Sounds like the same argument people make about Covid deaths.

In this case, if he would not have been on weed which causes increased heart rate, he would probably still be alive.

 

Written by Natalie Saunders, B.A., LicAc:

 

marijuana is not completely free of adverse effects. It can cause dry mouth and eyes, drowsiness, dizziness, and increased anxiety and paranoia in susceptible people. Cannabis can also cause your heart to race, a distressing side effect if it catches you by surprise. Furthermore, some people even claim that weed can increase your risk of heart attacks.

Edited June 17, 2022 by bkk6060

[Bert got kinky]

 

 

Well done Eric Parpart.

Well written and straight to the point.

Has last sentence sums it up.

My recommendation for related agencies is to stop, take a breather, research, talk to each other and then educate the public with accurate information. 

 

This decriminalization/law has been known well in advance.

How come the so called experts did not carry out any research in advance and have it published in science journals, rather than jumping to conclusions and having them published in tabloids?

In fact, why not look at other research carried out by international renowned scientists, who have had their credible research proven and published to share with other experts.

 

 

 

Edited June 17, 2022 by Bert got kinky

[Will B Good]

My recommendation for related agencies is to stop, roll a joint, chillax, talk to each other and then educate the public with accurate information. 

[Neeranam]

7 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

My recommendation for related agencies is to stop, roll a joint, chillax, talk to each other and then educate the public with accurate information. 

I'd prefer them to stay sober, most agencies in Thailand are already chilled enough. 

[DezLez]

8 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

My recommendation for related agencies is to stop, roll a joint

I think that is what they have been doing just before they spout forth!

[Neeranam]

I don't see the side effect of Paranoia listed anywhere. 

 

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I don't see the side effect of Paranoia listed anywhere. 

 

Careful......you sound a little paranoid about that.

[Bert got kinky]

4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I don't see the side effect of Paranoia listed anywhere. 

 

 

It's behind you. ????

 

[Orinoco]

To much talk

Skin up. 

[Orinoco]

8 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Careful......you sound a little paranoid about that.

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/b61d1fa3-799f-4a5e-a559-f37de1130dfc

 

Oh no !!!!!!!!!!!!

[internationalism]

nothing would stop all those "experts" and politicians to try to get to spotlight by quoting false claims.

Same with public - like lady who had an allergic reaction allegedly after soup with one small ganja leaf.

There won't be long before anti-ganja pressure groups will appear, with some politicians, even political parties, taking that clause. It will become part of political game. Very possibly it was game for Chadchart, to score against the central government - his first failure.

 

Somehow many have forgotten, that ganja is part of thai culture, medical tradition and cuisine for thousands years. At the very same time as it was banned in thailand in the 60ties, it appeared in the West as recreation drug

Edited June 17, 2022 by internationalism

[connda]

Now we'll be deluged with posts about the potential negative effects of marijuana by every member who has never tried it or have only tried in once with mix results.  For those who are simply doing a copy and paste from an anti-cannabis Internet resource, please be kind enough to attribute your information.  Those of us who have been around this culture for fifty or sixty years actually understand the effects.  So when I hear that there has been a "marijuana overdose leading to death" the first thought I had was "there's a first" and my second thought was, "I wonder when they'll release a Thai version of Reefer Madness."
Good to see they actually performed an autopsy.
Then we start hearing that Thais are being admitted to hospitals for ingesting leaves that have no psychotropic active substance.  At best you'll get a little fibre in your diet.
Can someone be allergic?  I imagine so, but without taking a test by a doctor who specializes in allergies, claiming you're "allergic to cannabis leaves" after eating a cannabis leaf in some soup is unproven supposition.  Maybe the soup had not been stored well and they had a reaction to bacteria? 

I'm sure there will be plenty of misinformation and hyperbole over the next few months to keep the us all entertained.

[kimamey]

They would definitely gain from putting their brain in gear before their mouth. 

If it were the world's first death from an overdose then I can't see that would be a serious problem outside of the person who died and their friends and relatives. There's certainly a need to be careful if you have medical issues. 

Virtually anything can kill you in excess. Even water. 

[spidermike007]

I had a sense that this legalization would be confused, muddled, and incoherent. The new Bangkok governor came into office, with alot of high hopes. Just a few more mistakes like this one, and he will be written off as a village idiot. Claiming people are dying from ganga, is a bit like suggesting drinking bleach for covid. Pretty out there. We are likely to see alot of fear and paranoia from alot of fake puritans.

 

 

[Bert got kinky]

4 minutes ago, stoner said:

i see you have been testing said meth.......unwisely by the looks of it. keep trucking. 

He is just annoyed that someone, somewhere is happy.

 

[webfact]

RELATED:

 

Woman goes to Thai police in north after man attacks her after "smoking ganja and taking tramadol"

 

Naew Na Caption: Woman goes to the police to say she was attacked by man who smoked marijuana and took TRAMADOL

 

Some Thai media is trying its best to scare the public by associating anything with the smoking of marijuana, notes ASEAN NOW.

 

Full story: https://aseannow.com/topic/1263099-woman-goes-to-thai-police-in-north-after-man-attacks-her-after-smoking-ganja-and-taking-tramadol/

[tukadadoll]

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

I don't see the side effect of Paranoia listed anywhere. 

 

The cops are coming flush the stash. Got rid of a lot of good product due to that side effect over the years.

[Ddbanksy]

4 hours ago, Orinoco said:

To much talk

Skin up. 

As we txt

[Ddbanksy]

3 hours ago, kimamey said:

They would definitely gain from putting their brain in gear before their mouth. 

If it were the world's first death from an overdose then I can't see that would be a serious problem outside of the person who died and their friends and relatives. There's certainly a need to be careful if you have medical issues. 

Virtually anything can kill you in excess. Even water. 

The "Hub of......Ganja deaths"! 555

[WinterGael]

6 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Sounds like the same argument people make about Covid deaths.

In this case, if he would not have been on weed which causes increased heart rate, he would probably still be alive.

 

Written by Natalie Saunders, B.A., LicAc:

 

marijuana is not completely free of adverse effects. It can cause dry mouth and eyes, drowsiness, dizziness, and increased anxiety and paranoia in susceptible people. Cannabis can also cause your heart to race, a distressing side effect if it catches you by surprise. Furthermore, some people even claim that weed can increase your risk of heart attacks.

Actually, there are autopsy proven cases where at least two people have died of cardiac arrest from smoking pot.  As with any drug, there are risks to one's health.  

[SunnyinBangrak]

3 minutes ago, WinterGael said:

Actually, there are autopsy proven cases where at least two people have died of cardiac arrest from smoking pot.  As with any drug, there are risks to one's health.  

With no underlying health issues whatsoever? Without mixing with tobacco? Without any other drugs present in the system? You claim pot killed someone, the onus is on you to clearly prove that - or likely, on closer inspection it turns out same as the bkk overdose yesterday ie fiction.

[10baht]

6 hours ago, Bert got kinky said:

My recommendation for related agencies is to stop, take a breather, research, talk to each other and then educate the public with accurate information. 

Weed out the bad apples so to speak?????

[mrfill]

5 hours ago, connda said:

Now we'll be deluged with posts about the potential negative effects of marijuana by every member who has never tried it or have only tried in once with mix results.  For those who are simply doing a copy and paste from an anti-cannabis Internet resource, please be kind enough to attribute your information.  Those of us who have been around this culture for fifty or sixty years actually understand the effects.  So when I hear that there has been a "marijuana overdose leading to death" the first thought I had was "there's a first" and my second thought was, "I wonder when they'll release a Thai version of Reefer Madness."
Good to see they actually performed an autopsy.
Then we start hearing that Thais are being admitted to hospitals for ingesting leaves that have no psychotropic active substance.  At best you'll get a little fibre in your diet.
Can someone be allergic?  I imagine so, but without taking a test by a doctor who specializes in allergies, claiming you're "allergic to cannabis leaves" after eating a cannabis leaf in some soup is unproven supposition.  Maybe the soup had not been stored well and they had a reaction to bacteria? 

I'm sure there will be plenty of misinformation and hyperbole over the next few months to keep the us all entertained.

Some years ago in the UK the official figures showed something like 12 deaths from cannabis. When looked into a little, one of them proved to be a customs officer who was searching ships for drugs at Felixstowe docks. He fell between 2 ships and was crushed. Put down as a cannabis related death....

[Pouatchee]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

First, Bangkok governor Chadchart Sittipunt claimed on Tuesday that the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) found the world’s first case of a person who died from marijuana overdose. That was a baffling statement. 

Now we truly know who to watch out for. Superstitions and old wives tales will surely become the scientific facts from now on. When was the last witch hunt here?

 

My neighbor is still trying to make gold from lead. 

Edited June 17, 2022 by Pouatchee

[WinterGael]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

With no underlying health issues whatsoever? Without mixing with tobacco? Without any other drugs present in the system? You claim pot killed someone, the onus is on you to clearly prove that - or likely, on closer inspection it turns out same as the bkk overdose yesterday ie fiction.

The deaths were deemed cannibas related because on autopsy, no other cause could be determined.  One may have had an undiagnosed heart condition; however, as such, and with no previous issue causing him to seek medical attention, the cause of death being inhalation of excessive amounts of THC was listed as causing cardiac arrest.

 

But it doesn't matter, previous health aside, if someone Ingests or inhales something, bringing about death, the cause of death still is the ingestion or inhalation of said substance.

 

Having worked in an Emergency Room, I know that as much as people love to argue that cannibas is harmless, the medical evidence does not back it up.  I've seen people in restraints from cannibas-use induced paranoi and psychosis.  I personally know a friend who after smoking a high quality strain of Kush, got severe paranoia and ran out into traffic in fear of the "things chasing him. Luckily he did not die.  And no other substances were found on his tox screen.

[Bert got kinky]

10 minutes ago, WinterGael said:

The deaths were deemed cannibas related because on autopsy, no other cause could be determined.  One may have had an undiagnosed heart condition; however, as such, and with no previous issue causing him to seek medical attention, the cause of death being inhalation of excessive amounts of THC was listed as causing cardiac arrest.

 

But it doesn't matter, previous health aside, if someone Ingests or inhales something, bringing about death, the cause of death still is the ingestion or inhalation of said substance.

 

Having worked in an Emergency Room, I know that as much as people love to argue that cannibas is harmless, the medical evidence does not back it up.  I've seen people in restraints from cannibas-use induced paranoi and psychosis.  I personally know a friend who after smoking a high quality strain of Kush, got severe paranoia and ran out into traffic in fear of the "things chasing him. Luckily he did not die.  And no other substances were found on his tox screen.

The deaths were deemed cannibas related because on autopsy, no other cause could be determined.

So you are posting material to contradict what you were saying. ????

Why not post the official report, which is linked in the article where you cut & copied that from?

 

Edited June 17, 2022 by Bert got kinky

[Denim]

Ignore all these false newspaper articles.

 

Listen instead to the ever infallible weed skeptics on this forum. Read what they write, inhale deeply, absorb it , and exhale , then rest assured the exact opposite of anything they write will land you in the correct ball park of sound advice.

[Bedfont]

8 hours ago, Neeranam said:

I don't see the side effect of Paranoia listed anywhere. 

 

'Possible' paranoia. Not everyone suffers paranoia. I've been smoking cannabis for more than 60 years and never suffered.

 

[Purdey]

While as a young kid at university somebody may have passed the dutchie to the right while we were sitting cross-legged in a circle wearing tie-dyed shirts and flared jeans, but I never inhaled, of course, and no one had a heart attack or died as we swayed to Jimi Hendrix and Pink Floyd and fell asleep while force-feeding ourselves half loaves of seed bread. No one thought too much about it.