jollyhangmon Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 3 hours ago, SamuiGrower said: Thailand is the fourth ranked pesticide consuming country, globally. Yes, any outdoor weed farming done here, especially at scale (like an actual business ????) - you can bet on it! Glyphosates are THE WORST! ... disgusting stuff, but how does it work, in general but particularly with da weed ... being a 'weed killer' how does it eliminate only 'bad' weeds ...? (genuine question) 1
mikebike Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, jollyhangmon said: ... disgusting stuff, but how does it work, in general but particularly with da weed ... being a 'weed killer' how does it eliminate only 'bad' weeds ...? (genuine question) It does not only eliminate "bad weeds". Chemicals are indisctiminate., ????
jollyhangmon Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 1 hour ago, mikebike said: It does not only eliminate "bad weeds". Chemicals are indisctiminate., ???? ... yeah, well, 'twas what I was thinking as well, unsurprisingly, which is why I asked. So how do they use it for da ganj then ... spray it around the plants? Can't see that working too well ... 2
Popular Post redwood1 Posted May 22, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, jollyhangmon said: ... yeah, well, 'twas what I was thinking as well, unsurprisingly, which is why I asked. So how do they use it for da ganj then ... spray it around the plants? Can't see that working too well ... The reason Glyphosate works is because plants they spray it on are genetically modified to withstand it.....So there is ZERO Glyphosate sprayed on cannabis unless it has been genetically modified... Other pesticides maybe used but not Glyphosate.. This is what GMO-free food is all about.....With GMO food not only are you eating a genetically modified plant you are also eating Glyphosate.....With Soy Beans being Public Enemy #1 in this regards... 2 1
SamuiGrower Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 13 hours ago, redwood1 said: The reason Glyphosate works is because plants they spray it on are genetically modified to withstand it.....So there is ZERO Glyphosate sprayed on cannabis unless it has been genetically modified... Not exactly. Some background: Glyphosates are a non-discriminate herbicide that will kill anything (mostly weeds and grasses) in its path. While not being directly sprayed on cannabis, you can believe it is sprayed around furrows and ridges around cannabis. There use on GMO crops only is not correct. To be clear, glyphosates will likely remain the most widely applied pesticide globally, for years to come. It is used and packaged in many different forms and applied across diverse sectors: aquaculture, forestry, major food crops like corn, canola, wheat and most grains, beans, sugar cane and soybeans (where it is predominantly used). 43 of 45 oat based products (Quaker oats oatmeal) tested positive for glyphosates. Monsanto (they developed glyphosates in 1974), understanding that it binds to three specific enzymes in plants, genetically modified seed stock to “switch off” gene expression in these enzymes. GMO seed stock are sold to farmers along with glyphosates. It acts as “lock and key”, killing everything but the crop produced from the seeds. So, yes, cannabis not being a GMO (yet highly hybridized), is NOT immune to glyphosates but yet is/may be used by those farming it. Glyphosates have been widely used in Thailand for decades. You don’t get to be the 4th largest user in the world of pesticides on food crops and escape the use of glyphosates. To say they are never used on cannabis would be misinformation. Palm oil, that has taken over the use of coconut oil (because it’s cheaper to produce on many different models), has become a prime crop for the use of glyphosates. Chlorpyrifos and Paraquat have been banned in Thailand. Paraquat used to be the number one pesticide used in cannabis cultivation, around the world. In 2019 Thailand began steps to officially ban glyphosate’s. Bayer chemicals (Germany) that acquired Monsanto, went on an active campaign, with the help of the EPA and FDA (USA), to influence Thailand in reversing this ban. It remains in use and the ongoing story is extremely controversial. The WHO (World Health Organization) has classified Glyphosates as likely carcinogenic. There is enormous politicized controversy, not only around the outsized influence over Thailand by the USA, in its use of glyphosates, but by medical studies of glyphosates being co-opted by BIG companies like Bayer, with the help of federal agencies. BIG companies=BIG $. This, of course, is at the expense of world health. A simple internet search on Glyphosates and human health will yield the following (in many different forms): (This is from the NPIC, National Pesticide Information Center) What happens to glyphosate when it enters the body? In humans, glyphosate does not easily pass through the skin. Glyphosate that is absorbed or ingested will pass through the body relatively quickly. The vast majority of glyphosate leaves the body in urine and feces without being changed into another chemical. The Environmental Protection Agency says: No risks of concern to human health from current uses of glyphosate Anyone buying this? Raise your hand. The controversy continues in masking the hazards and dangers of glyphosates by lobbyists and special interest groups in medical studies around the world. Glyphosates are truly insidious and bind tightly to soils and have a half-life of about 6 months. There is strong evidence that they are: Carcinogenic (liver and kidney) Endocrine disrupters Reproductive ailments, maladies and developmental issues Cause risks in pregnancies and breast milk inflammatory disorders Metabolic disorders Disrupt mitochondrial function The only safeguard in limiting exposure to glyphosates is in buying “certified organic”. The term “organic”, in and of itself is controversial but guarantees you glyphosates and an infinite list of other pesticides, we’re NOT used in the farming practices of what you are consuming. 1
redwood1 Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 41 minutes ago, SamuiGrower said: Not exactly. Some background: Glyphosates are a non-discriminate herbicide that will kill anything (mostly weeds and grasses) in its path. While not being directly sprayed on cannabis, you can believe it is sprayed around furrows and ridges around cannabis. There use on GMO crops only is not correct. To be clear, glyphosates will likely remain the most widely applied pesticide globally, for years to come. It is used and packaged in many different forms and applied across diverse sectors: aquaculture, forestry, major food crops like corn, canola, wheat and most grains, beans, sugar cane and soybeans (where it is predominantly used). 43 of 45 oat based products (Quaker oats oatmeal) tested positive for glyphosates. Monsanto (they developed glyphosates in 1974), understanding that it binds to three specific enzymes in plants, genetically modified seed stock to “switch off” gene expression in these enzymes. GMO seed stock are sold to farmers along with glyphosates. It acts as “lock and key”, killing everything but the crop produced from the seeds. So, yes, cannabis not being a GMO (yet highly hybridized), is NOT immune to glyphosates but yet is/may be used by those farming it. Glyphosates have been widely used in Thailand for decades. You don’t get to be the 4th largest user in the world of pesticides on food crops and escape the use of glyphosates. To say they are never used on cannabis would be misinformation. Palm oil, that has taken over the use of coconut oil (because it’s cheaper to produce on many different models), has become a prime crop for the use of glyphosates. Chlorpyrifos and Paraquat have been banned in Thailand. Paraquat used to be the number one pesticide used in cannabis cultivation, around the world. In 2019 Thailand began steps to officially ban glyphosate’s. Bayer chemicals (Germany) that acquired Monsanto, went on an active campaign, with the help of the EPA and FDA (USA), to influence Thailand in reversing this ban. It remains in use and the ongoing story is extremely controversial. The WHO (World Health Organization) has classified Glyphosates as likely carcinogenic. There is enormous politicized controversy, not only around the outsized influence over Thailand by the USA, in its use of glyphosates, but by medical studies of glyphosates being co-opted by BIG companies like Bayer, with the help of federal agencies. BIG companies=BIG $. This, of course, is at the expense of world health. A simple internet search on Glyphosates and human health will yield the following (in many different forms): (This is from the NPIC, National Pesticide Information Center) What happens to glyphosate when it enters the body? In humans, glyphosate does not easily pass through the skin. Glyphosate that is absorbed or ingested will pass through the body relatively quickly. The vast majority of glyphosate leaves the body in urine and feces without being changed into another chemical. The Environmental Protection Agency says: No risks of concern to human health from current uses of glyphosate Anyone buying this? Raise your hand. The controversy continues in masking the hazards and dangers of glyphosates by lobbyists and special interest groups in medical studies around the world. Glyphosates are truly insidious and bind tightly to soils and have a half-life of about 6 months. There is strong evidence that they are: Carcinogenic (liver and kidney) Endocrine disrupters Reproductive ailments, maladies and developmental issues Cause risks in pregnancies and breast milk inflammatory disorders Metabolic disorders Disrupt mitochondrial function The only safeguard in limiting exposure to glyphosates is in buying “certified organic”. The term “organic”, in and of itself is controversial but guarantees you glyphosates and an infinite list of other pesticides, we’re NOT used in the farming practices of what you are consuming. I believe all of this is correct...... They may very well spray glyphosate around weed so it still would be possible to get a bit on the weed..... So even thoe a small bit of glyphosate may end up in the weed, It would still be a lot less than you would get from a full-on glyphosate spray-down on a weed crop..... Good write up on the nasty world glyphosate situation..
SamuiGrower Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, redwood1 said: So even thoe a small bit of glyphosate may end up in the weed, Compounded, even more so, by cannabis being a hyperaccumulator plant, up-taking all heavy metals and toxins from the soil (or substrate). It is this very reason that cannabis (hemp) was a soil mitigation crop for treating contaminated soils. This all translates to: glyphosate’s sprayed ‘around’ cannabis will contaminate soils for 6 months, having low mobility, will be taken up by hyperaccumulators like cannabis for all to enjoy in every puff. Indoor cultivation is not subjected to glyphosates - fortunately. 1
redwood1 Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, wombat said: more cheap weed 9 Baht a gram.........Yes Sir, This price would please the cheapest of Cheap Charlies... 2
MrBiker Posted May 27, 2023 Posted May 27, 2023 Is it just me or are prices dropping like crazy? https://thaigreenlab.com/th/ดอกกัญชาออนไลน์/ This now has bulk discounts Other websites are also lowering prices. I guess they have a lot of inventory to unload in this uncertain time. 1
Popular Post stoner Posted May 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, MrBiker said: Is it just me or are prices dropping like crazy? https://thaigreenlab.com/th/ดอกกัญชาออนไลน์/ This now has bulk discounts Other websites are also lowering prices. I guess they have a lot of inventory to unload in this uncertain time. yes and the prices on the ocean of mids will continue to drop over the coming months. only the strongest and dankest will continue to command proper prices. how many of those unloading are fully licensed etc to actually be doing what they are doing ? legit question though. 2 1 1 1
roietfortress Posted May 27, 2023 Posted May 27, 2023 On 5/26/2023 at 10:13 AM, wombat said: more cheap weed looks fluffy! yea its possible we might all look back on these days as the "good days" in Thailand lol #
roietfortress Posted May 27, 2023 Posted May 27, 2023 1 hour ago, MrBiker said: Is it just me or are prices dropping like crazy? https://thaigreenlab.com/th/ดอกกัญชาออนไลน์/ This now has bulk discounts Other websites are also lowering prices. I guess they have a lot of inventory to unload in this uncertain time. i like the destroyer. i bought it at 100/baht more per gram ???? #
MrBiker Posted May 27, 2023 Posted May 27, 2023 3 hours ago, roietfortress said: i like the destroyer. i bought it at 100/baht more per gram ???? # The 10g + prices are basically 50% off or more on everything 1
Popular Post Plern Posted May 28, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 28, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 10:43 AM, wombat said: back to cheap weed This looks like the chunks of wet grass that used to get stuck under my mower ???? 2 5
roietfortress Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 just got our monthly Lampang order and tried some new things. Shogun and Dubai Poison are two great sativas. mixed together is potent. one hit did me for over an hour. Shogun is 750 for 10g. Dubai is 1000 for 10g i think. with Lampang ask for an updated menu or follow them on line. then google the strain. their stock always changes. i would say quality is getting much better every month. all Thai grown, no imports. # 1
philthebook Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 Just had these pop up on my facebook feed, not seen these 'Thai Sticks' before
Popular Post philthebook Posted June 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 13, 2023 Ice Cream Cake (Barneys Farm) - Indica - Indoor Grow, lovely large dense buds. Paid 1500 for 10grams from one of my Facebook plugs 2 1
redwood1 Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, stoner said: purple thai and grease monkey. . 200. This looks very very strong...
SkyNets Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 Was that from the same place as the cheap Bruce Banner you posted the other day? Ordered some from them but it’s very weak. 21 hours ago, philthebook said: Ice Cream Cake (Barneys Farm) - Indica - Indoor Grow, lovely large dense buds. Paid 1500 for 10grams from one of my Facebook plugs
stoner Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, SkyNets said: Was that from the same place as the cheap Bruce Banner you posted the other day? Ordered some from them but it’s very weak. sorry to see you got a bad purchase. you know the non alcoholic beers ? this looks like non thc weed. message me if you want help. 2
SkyNets Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, stoner said: sorry to see you got a bad purchase. you know the non alcoholic beers ? this looks like non thc weed. message me if you want help. cool thanks 1
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Jingthing Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 Now this takes the hash cake! Getting a quote on Line for a from the farm order. I asked how much for shipping. I was asked where I live in Thailand. I was quoted a ridiculous price of 150 for 5 grams! I said that sounds very expensive shipping. I was told they charge more if shipping to a "tourist" area. Isn’t that hilarious? Not exactly double f-rang pricing but a funny variation on it. I guess it doesn't matter if the tourist area person has lived here for 20 years. I didn't dare ask if they apply that to Thais in tourist areas. So tip if you live in Pattaya. Say Banglamung. Maybe that would fool them. 1 1
redwood1 Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Now this takes the hash cake! Getting a quote on Line for a from the farm order. I asked how much for shipping. I was asked where I live in Thailand. I was quoted a ridiculous price of 150 for 5 grams! I said that sounds very expensive shipping. I was told they charge more if shipping to a "tourist" area. Isn’t that hilarious? Not exactly double f-rang pricing but a funny variation on it. I guess it doesn't matter if the tourist area person has lived here for 20 years. I didn't dare ask if they apply that to Thais in tourist areas. So tip if you live in Pattaya. Say Banglamung. Maybe that would fool them. lol......Now this is funny........Normal shipping charges for anything under 1 kilo run from 37 baht up to about 67 baht......So I quess you could say this is a 100 baht farang tax, which is not fair, but not to crazy.... 1
Jingthing Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, redwood1 said: lol......Now this is funny........Normal shipping charges for anything under 1 kilo run from 37 baht up to about 67 baht......So I quess you could say this is a 100 baht farang tax, which is not fair, but not to crazy.... Exactly. But he was kind of implying that even though I'm obviously f-rang that the charge was based on destination not race or nationality. Do I believe that? Not really. But its an excuse that might soften what is really happening. To add to the fun going to 10 grams they raise the absurd price even more.
stoner Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Exactly. But he was kind of implying that even though I'm obviously f-rang that the charge was based on destination not race or nationality. Do I believe that? Not really. But its an excuse that might soften what is really happening. To add to the fun going to 10 grams they raise the absurd price even more. you are far better off buying from a farm that cares about its customers. a farm that wants the customer to enjoy the experience. a farm that enjoys when their customers are happy. or you can keep doing what you are doing as i have no doubt the farm you have chosen is producing some fine quality cannabis. 1
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