Long traffic delays at Dover ferry port are fault of Brexit, claim French

[nauseus]

16 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Boring already arrived. Being stuck in passport lines is the very definition of boring. Feel sorry for those who voted no and now have to pay the price for the idiocy.

Ah! Idiocy. The insults follow as rapidly as ever.

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

"The Project Fear" campaign, which is how Brexiters characterized Remainers warning about what would ensue after Brexit, was about what would happen in the future. Well, the future is now the present. So it's no longer about fearing the future, but rather mourning the present. And of course, there is the dubious benefit of schadenfreude as in "I told you so".

Although these delays are not caused by Brexit 

[transam]

15 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You expect 100% protection. Maybe the UK should up its payments. Although the law of diminishing returns does apply

 

What is France doing to prevent illegal small boat crossings to UK?

“It is very difficult for the police to stop people from crossing. We are talking about 150km of coastline, not a port,” he said. “The more money the UK gives to France to militarise the border, the more migrants will turn to traffickers to try to make it across – because they have no legitimate way of doing so.”

https://www.thelocal.fr/20211112/what-is-france-doing-to-stop-migrants-crossing-the-channel/

Well yeh, rubber dinghies queued up on the beach being inflated by folk in fancy dress is incredibly hard to spot.... ????..............????

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Just now, transam said:

Well yeh, rubber dinghies queued up on the beach being inflated by folk in fancy dress is incredibly hard to spot.... ????..............????

What don't you understand about 150 kilometers of coastline?

[nauseus]

17 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You expect 100% protection. Maybe the UK should up its payments. Although the law of diminishing returns does apply

 

What is France doing to prevent illegal small boat crossings to UK?

“It is very difficult for the police to stop people from crossing. We are talking about 150km of coastline, not a port,” he said. “The more money the UK gives to France to militarise the border, the more migrants will turn to traffickers to try to make it across – because they have no legitimate way of doing so.”

https://www.thelocal.fr/20211112/what-is-france-doing-to-stop-migrants-crossing-the-channel/

Of course there are legitimate ways. The traffickers are themselves illegal and have no interest in them

 

If the situation was reversed, I'm sure the gendarmes would suddenly find higher levels of efficiency. Non?

[Phoenix Rising]

19 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

And are the remainers still living in the past, a time when the U.K was a still a member of the E.U ?

No, they're stuck in passport lines cursing the Brexiteers.

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2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Although these delays are not caused by Brexit 

The port of Dover's chief executive disagrees with your categorical denial:

 

"The Port of Dover's chief executive Doug Bannister accepted that Brexit had resulted in delays, telling LBC on Saturday his team were "recognizing that we are in a post-Brexit environment, which means the transaction times through the borders are going to take longer.""

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/23/uk/uk-france-dover-delays-brexit-gbr-intl/index.html

[bannork]

56 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The new rules were introduced two and a half years ago , why are there suddenly delays now ?

   It was the French staff not turning up for work which caused the delays and the Frenches technology broke  .

   Brexit rules have been in place for 30 months now , you cannot blame Brexit for your own Countries failings , besides , you should have measures in place to deal with any delays connected to Brexit

   

Covid stopped mass travel for 2 years, this was the beginning of school holidays in the UK so authorities expected a mad rush.

Brexit places cumbersome checks on passports,stamps and adding up days spent in the EU.

End of freedom of movement. 

[Phoenix Rising]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Well yeh, rubber dinghies queued up on the beach being inflated by folk in fancy dress is incredibly hard to spot.... ????..............????

Well, then they should be just as easy to spot when they arrive in the UK, right?

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1 minute ago, nauseus said:

Of course there are legitimate ways. The traffickers are themselves illegal and have no interest in them

 

If the situation was reversed, I'm sure the gendarmes would suddenly find higher levels of efficiency. Non?

So you're claiming that all the illegal immigrants could enter the UK legally? Really?

[transam]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

What don't you understand about 150 kilometers of coastline?

Now what do you think drones are for when a problem.....? ????

[baboon]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

What did we do before ?

 

Road blocks have been ‘erected’ when simple agreements could be put in place. 

Simple agreements COULD (have) been made, but we told the EU we didn't want any.

This chaos is what the Brexit voters actually voted for.

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, transam said:

Now what do you think drones are for when a problem.....? ????

How do you know that they aren't using drones already?  It's still 150 kilometers of coastline. Can drones be constantly watching all of it.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Well, then they should be just as easy to spot when they arrive in the UK, right?

Yes, but the French should have stopped the many months of crossings in the first place.

Tell us why they haven't....?  ????

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, baboon said:

Simple agreements COULD (have) been made, but we told the EU we didn't want any.

This chaos is what the Brexit voters actually voted for.

I don't think all Brexit voters actually voted for that. Remember that the Tories claimed that trade would be frictionless after Brexit and that the EU would back down. Lots of voters believed that.

[placeholder]

Just now, transam said:

Yes, but the French should have stopped the many months of crossings in the first place.

Tell us why they haven't....?  ????

Who says they haven't?

https://www.thelocal.fr/20211112/what-is-france-doing-to-stop-migrants-crossing-the-channel/

[Phoenix Rising]

16 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Ah! Idiocy. The insults follow as rapidly as ever.

I maintain that leaving the EU was an idiotic move by the UK, I have not called any individual an idiot so do try to calm down.

Sheeeesh, if you're that easily riled what will happen when you're forced to sit for hours in a passport line?

Edited July 24, 2022 by Phoenix Rising

[transam]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Who says they haven't?

https://www.thelocal.fr/20211112/what-is-france-doing-to-stop-migrants-crossing-the-channel/

From Iran.....?   ????

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, transam said:

From Iran.....?   ????

I have no idea what you're on about. Is this some displaced reference to drones from another post? If so, is Iran the only manufacturer of them?

Edited July 24, 2022 by placeholder

[baboon]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

I don't think all Brexit voters actually voted for that. Remember that the Tories claimed that trade would be frictionless after Brexit and that the EU would back down. Lots of voters believed that.

Only goes to show how thick a lot of voters are, in that case. It isn't like they weren't warned...

[Phoenix Rising]

1 minute ago, transam said:

Yes, but the French should have stopped the many months of crossings in the first place.

Tell us why they haven't....?  ????

But why would they waste a lot of resources on that when you Brits can easily pick them up when they arrive? It's a bit like shooting fish in a barrel, isn't it?

So, no probs! You're out of the EU and have full control over immigration (like you had before leaving) so all is good!

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

I maintain that leaving the EU was an idiotic move by the UK, I have not called anyone an idiot so do try to calm down.

Sheeeesh, if you're that easily riled what will happen when you're forced to sit for hours in a passport line?

Depends on where you come from......Are you from one of the countries the UK was bolstering with cash......????

[placeholder]

Just now, baboon said:

Only goes to show how thick a lot of voters are, in that case. It isn't like they weren't warned...

As someone else pointed out, there's a saying that Brexit is a mood, not a policy. People ruled by emotions tend to do unintelligent things. It doesn't mean that they are basically unintelligent. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

8 minutes ago, bannork said:

Covid stopped mass travel for 2 years, this was the beginning of school holidays in the UK so authorities expected a mad rush.

Brexit places cumbersome checks on passports,stamps and adding up days spent in the EU.

End of freedom of movement. 

Lets keep it in perspective .

Its not an end to "free movement" , there have just been some temporary delays , mainly due to checking travellers vaccination status and flight cancellations 

[placeholder]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Depends on where you come from......Are you from one of the countries the UK was bolstering with cash......????

It's funny. The EU country that Brexiters seem most fond of is Hungary, which on a per capita basis is the biggest receiver of EU cash.

Edited July 24, 2022 by placeholder

[bannork]

8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

How do you know that they aren't using drones already?  It's still 150 kilometers of coastline. Can drones be constantly watching all of it.

Drones would be no use, they're afraid of barking dogs. Liz Truss said so in Parliament.

[baboon]

12 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The port of Dover's chief executive disagrees with your categorical denial:

 

"The Port of Dover's chief executive Doug Bannister accepted that Brexit had resulted in delays, telling LBC on Saturday his team were "recognizing that we are in a post-Brexit environment, which means the transaction times through the borders are going to take longer.""

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/23/uk/uk-france-dover-delays-brexit-gbr-intl/index.html

'Pfft. What would the Port of Dover's chief executive know' will be following shortly...

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

As someone else pointed out, there's a saying that Brexit is a mood, not a policy. People ruled by emotions tend to do unintelligent things. It doesn't mean that they are basically unintelligent. 

You are living in the past .

Move on and get into the present 

Brexit was years ago 

[Phoenix Rising]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Depends on where you come from......Are you from one of the countries the UK was bolstering with cash......????

No, my country pays a lot to the EU every year and we get a lot back in the form of full and free access to the common market. It's great, you should try it!

[transam]

1 minute ago, Phoenix Rising said:

But why would they waste a lot of resources on that when you Brits can easily pick them up when they arrive? It's a bit like shooting fish in a barrel, isn't it?

So, no probs! You're out of the EU and have full control over immigration (like you had before leaving) so all is good!

Because they were illegal immigrants in France, you know, have a camp site that the French ignore.......????