Price of a Pint of Guinness in Pattaya.

[Jumbo1968]

Cheap Charlie’s has just had Guinness installed currently 209 baht a pint which is very reasonable priced as I have seen a half in some bars advertised slightly less for a half pint. There appears to be fluctuating prices for a pint going from the sublime to damn right expensive. I believe the Guinness sold in Thailand is brewed in Asia, what I can’t understand is why they never sell draught Guinness in a can. I am sure there is a huge market in Thailand for it, it’s just under 5% so won’t attract a great deal of import tax ?

[Excel]

As matter of interest, how much is a pint of Guiness in the UK know ?

[redwood1]

I think Lao Dark beer is even better and it cost under 100 baht...

[moogradod]

16 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

I think Lao Dark beer is even better and it cost under 100 baht...

Try Weihenstephaner Vitus (available in Central Pattaya Festival). Not as dark as Guiness, but multiple times more tasty. Same price range as the Guiness. Has a high alcohol content of more than 7 %. However it should be drunk cold ????

[Morakot]

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I believe the Guinness sold in Thailand is brewed in Asia, what I can’t understand is why they never sell draught Guinness in a can.

 

It's brewed in Malaysia by Heineken Malaysia (formerly Guinness Anchor Berhad) https://www.heinekenmalaysia.com/brands/guinness/ .

 

The Thai distributor called TAP group https://www.tapb.co.th decided not to included canned or bottled Guinness (anymore) and only sells draft in Thailand.

 

Elsewhere in Southeast Asia, outside Malaysia, you can find cans and bottles of the devil's lovely buttermilk! I recently saw regular cans and bottles of Foreign Extra in Indonesia.

 

Edited July 26, 2022 by Morakot

[Morakot]

2 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

I am sure there is a huge market in Thailand for it, it’s just under 5% so won’t attract a great deal of import tax

Yes theoretically any local aficionado SME could import, but in practice the bureaucratic hurdles are set so high that only a handful of corporate conglomerates with the right level of influence can breach national borders while exploiting a margin of profit.

[Deli]

I prefer to pay 20 baht more over sitting at Cheap Charley's

[mikeymike100]

The price of 209 baht is good. But what does it taste like?

I used to drink Guinness in the UK, many years ago,  and thought it was a good drink, until I went to Dublin and tried it.

It tasted so much better, more flavor, more creamy......just better!

[transam]

Seems Guinness is brewed in 49 countries around the world, so I reckon there will be a few differences....

[Jumbo1968]

6 minutes ago, Deli said:

I prefer to pay 20 baht more over sitting at Cheap Charley's

Why what’s wrong with Cheap Charlie’s, I found the place to be spotless and very helpful staff or are you hi so ?

[Jumbo1968]

6 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

The price of 209 baht is good. But what does it taste like?

I used to drink Guinness in the UK, many years ago,  and thought it was a good drink, until I went to Dublin and tried it.

It tasted so much better, more flavor, more creamy......just better!

TBH it was fine, I have had better but some times it depends how it is kept and poured, the biggest issue is in this temperature it soon loses its chill.

[scubascuba3]

59 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

The price of 209 baht is good. But what does it taste like?

I used to drink Guinness in the UK, many years ago,  and thought it was a good drink, until I went to Dublin and tried it.

It tasted so much better, more flavor, more creamy......just better!

Beer always taste better in the original country, maybe psychological, portugal, spain, Thailand, Mexico all the same

[topt]

4 hours ago, Excel said:

As matter of interest, how much is a pint of Guiness in the UK know ?

As always depends where but doubt you will get much if any change from a fiver in the south east. 

[Billy goat]

2 hours ago, Morakot said:

 

It's brewed in Malaysia by Heineken Malaysia (formerly Guinness Anchor Berhad) https://www.heinekenmalaysia.com/brands/guinness/ .

 

The Thai distributor called TAP group https://www.tapb.co.th decided not to included canned or bottled Guinness (anymore) and only sells draft in Thailand.

 

Elsewhere in Southeast Asia, outside Malaysia, you can find cans and bottles of the devil's lovely buttermilk! I recently saw regular cans and bottles of Foreign Extra in Indonesia.

 

All Guinness in Thailand comes directly from Dublin. Years ago we had the Malaysian Guinness which is an  inferior product to Dublin Guinness. 

Tap trading imports it then hands it over to Trade beer for distribution. 

[Troy Tempest]

I worked in Dublin for over a year in 1989/90

 

The Guinness there is far superior to the rest I have tried around the world.

 

It is so thick and creamy that it takes about 2 minutes to pull a pint which is usually done there by filling the pint glass up to about 3/4 full then letting it rest for the head to slowly go down for about 90 seconds and then topping it up very slowly.

 

In the old days the pubs were closed after lunch and didn't open until 5:30 in the evening.

 

If you went into the pubs at opening time there would already be about 15 pints of Guinness already 3/4 pulled waiting on the bar so that the punters could get served more quickly.

 

I have just come back from a week in Chiang Mai and found an Irish bar in the Old City that sold Guinness....It was actually very good, but not the same as the stuff we used to get in Dublin.

 

https://www.omalleys-thai.com/

 

https://www.omalleys-thai.com/drinks-menu/

 

Edited July 26, 2022 by Troy Tempest

[3STTW]

I'm sat in Outback right now and the missus is just tucking into a 290Bht pint and I have to say it's excellent, every bit as good as any Guinness I've had in the UK.

TBH, I resent paying any more than 250Bht for any drink here, if only for the falang-gouging tax they put on the stuff. But for good Guinness I can always make an exception.

[Jumbo1968]

55 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Beer always taste better in the original country, maybe psychological, portugal, spain, Thailand, Mexico all the same

TBH I can’t disagree, I was sitting in an open bar drinking Guinness and unless you drank it very quick it started to warm up, might be different in a bar with AC though.

[Bangkok Barry]

1 hour ago, Jumbo1968 said:

TBH it was fine, I have had better but some times it depends how it is kept and poured, the biggest issue is in this temperature it soon loses its chill.

I'm delighted you haven't sunk to the level of adding ice to it. Or have you? ????????????

[moogradod]

9 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

TBH I can’t disagree, I was sitting in an open bar drinking Guinness and unless you drank it very quick it started to warm up, might be different in a bar with AC though.

Maybe I am misinformed, but the decent way to drink a Guiness is warm to my knowledge. Not that I would ever drink that.

[3STTW]

6 minutes ago, moogradod said:

Maybe I am misinformed, but the decent way to drink a Guiness is warm to my knowledge. Not that I would ever drink that.

In the UK you can get Guinness or Guinness Cold so it doesn't matter really. In TH, they need to chill it to keep the gas (and hence the pour) under control otherwise you end up with a Guinness fire extinguisher.

[daveAustin]

5 hours ago, Excel said:

As matter of interest, how much is a pint of Guiness in the UK know ?

Anywhere from 100-200 baht equivalent in my town. Lots of places sell a good pint at ~ £3 / 130 baht. London around a fiver, 220 baht ish.

[daveAustin]

Not a patch on Guinness, but a shame don't see more of Malaysian Royal Stout in Thailand. 

[freedomnow]

 8 cans of that stuff just get me 'quite drunk' in the UK...can still function so a half pint would be money down the drain...no idea what it is but can drink that stuff till i swell like a whale..just that stuff mind you.

 

Half pint would just be a memory lane type zero buzz deal.

[Jumbo1968]

24 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

I'm delighted you haven't sunk to the level of adding ice to it. Or have you? ????????????

The only drink I ever put ice in is whisky, I have colleagues here who put ice in their beer, no idea why, it just dilutes it and ends up like water !

[Jumbo1968]

26 minutes ago, moogradod said:

Maybe I am misinformed, but the decent way to drink a Guiness is warm to my knowledge. Not that I would ever drink that.

Years ago in Ireland when it was the old fashioned hand pulled pumps, you could have a choice, ‘warm’ or chilled or 50/50. Nowadays the trend is ice cold beer/lager including Guinness which is criminal, I hate ice cold beer/lager, it’s bland. I like craft beer.which is served at room temperature.

[HarrySeaman]

2 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

TBH it was fine, I have had better but some times it depends how it is kept and poured, the biggest issue is in this temperature it soon loses its chill.

Every Factor That Affects the Quality of Your Guinness, Explained

 

From the above link, and I presume the temperature in is Fahrenheit so 4°C to 6°C, which for my taste is too cold.  I like mine more around 45° F, but over 50°F is too warm.  Keeping it at the right temperature is impossible in Thailand, but it is still better than the local swill even if it gets a little too warm.

 

"TEMPERATURE

Incorrect pouring temperature contributes to “90-plus percent of the draft issues you experience at a pub or bar,” McClellan says. Guinness should be poured at 38 degrees, which ensures it isn’t over-carbonated. By the time it’s handed to a customer, the temperature will be somewhere between 38 and 43 degrees."

 

 

[Jumbo1968]

21 minutes ago, 3STTW said:

In the UK you can get Guinness or Guinness Cold so it doesn't matter really. In TH, they need to chill it to keep the gas (and hence the pour) under control otherwise you end up with a Guinness fire extinguisher.

Nowadays all beers are served via pumps/gas etc, the old hand pulled pumps were excellent but the breweries decided it was quicker for gas/pumps and generate more revenue.

[Martin Brit]

22 minutes ago, 3STTW said:

In the UK you can get Guinness or Guinness Cold so it doesn't matter really. In TH, they need to chill it to keep the gas (and hence the pour) under control otherwise you end up with a Guinness fire extinguisher.

Ice cold guinness was invented in Ireland (a commercial decision) to overcome the issue of having to wait for it to settle before completing the filling of a pint. Re pointed out earlier - 15 partly filled glasses ready to top up before opening the bar. Chilling it meant they could complete the task in one pour. Guinness as with all proper real ale in UK is meant to be drunk at a temperature not too cold, then you get the flavour. The whole argument in UK with larger drinkers is that Larger is tasteless (fizzy <deleted>), thats because its chilled. 

[Martin Brit]

11 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

Years ago in Ireland when it was the old fashioned hand pulled pumps, you could have a choice, ‘warm’ or chilled or 50/50. Nowadays the trend is ice cold beer/lager including Guinness which is criminal, I hate ice cold beer/lager, it’s bland. I like craft beer.which is served at room temperature.

Ice cold guinness was invented in Ireland (a commercial decision) to overcome the issue of having to wait for it to settle before completing the filling of a pint. As you pointed out earlier - 15 partly filled glasses ready to top up before opening the bar. Chilling it meant they could complete the task in one pour. Guinness as with all proper real ale in UK is meant to be drunk at a temperature not too cold, then you get the flavour. The whole argument in UK with larger drinkers is that Larger is tasteless (fizzy <deleted>), thats because its chilled. 

[3STTW]

12 minutes ago, Martin Brit said:

Ice cold guinness was invented in Ireland (a commercial decision) to overcome the issue of having to wait for it to settle before completing the filling of a pint. As you pointed out earlier - 15 partly filled glasses ready to top up before opening the bar. Chilling it meant they could complete the task in one pour. Guinness as with all proper real ale in UK is meant to be drunk at a temperature not too cold, then you get the flavour. The whole argument in UK with larger drinkers is that Larger is tasteless (fizzy <deleted>), thats because its chilled. 

Yeah, and there was always some muppet who would say "I'm not drinking that - it's been sat there for ten minutes!" which is the same as saying "Please miss, can I go to the back of the queue." ????????

 

And the real reason for super-chilling most beers (especially Thai beer) is so you can't taste them.