Lawyer wants tougher penalties for sex offenders - justice minister reveals "chemical castration" deal

[webfact]

Picture: INN

 

Top Thai lawyer Sitha Biabangkert - known as Lawyer Tam - took three female victims of sex offenders to meet with justice minister Somsak Thepsuthin yesterday, reported INN.

 

The victims through their lawyer are calling for tougher sentences on sex offenders, especially those who use their position of power or authority and who might well reoffend because of their status, blatantly disregarding the law.

 

The first lady was named as Jaibua Hidding, a 26 year old actress of mixed Thai/Holland parentage who was sexually molested by a police major in Bang Phlat. 

 

The other two ladies - one a celebrity too - were assaulted by a man called Aphisit who is the relative of a former minister and one who was the victim of a man called Prin, a former deputy leader of a political party. 

 

Tam said that many of his clients had fallen victim to people in the civil service or powerful individuals who had influence and there was a fear they would reoffend on release. 

 

The sentences need to be made tougher to deter others. 

 

Suthin said that new legislation called JSOC was awaiting royal consent. If approved it would mean that offenders could face having to wear Electric Monitoring anklets on release for up to ten years. 

This would be up to a court's discretion.

 

If that was done and they were the subject of a further allegation they could be held for three days and then the court asked to detain them thereafter. 

 

Regarding chemical castration the minister revealed that it could only be done if the offender enters a rehabilitation program and opts for the procedure.

 

If it is done it would lower their sexual desire and lead to an agreed reduction in their sentence. 
 

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[Almer]

Chemical castration, they have been talking to my Mrs 

[ezzra]

Fleece the offenders from every baht they and their immediate family owns and than jail them for long terms, the going back to be dirt poor will hurt them the most...

[OneMoreFarang]

What are the current laws in Thailand?

I always thought rapist go to jail. Or not?

 

When the police do not investigate alleged crimes from influential people then tougher laws don't change anything. No investigation, no prosecution, no punishment.

The police officers should do their job. Or they should get fired for not doing their job. 

 

And for people who ask for penalties like chemical castration I hope they only want this punishment for convicted sex criminals who raped the victim(s) without doubt.

Unfortunately, there are too many women who somehow "remember" after a long time, sometimes after decades, what they say happened a long time ago.

 

Castrate the bad guys who raped without doubt, or just execute them. But be careful with accusations, especially about things which supposedly happened decades ago.

[Xonax]

Surgical castration would be a lot better!

[Kaopad999]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Regarding chemical castration the minister revealed that it could only be done if the offender enters a rehabilitation program and opts for the procedure.

 

It should be mandatory

[Bangkok Barry]

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

The police officers should do their job. Or they should get fired for not doing their job.

It's a strange country, isn't it. The police have only one job, which is to uphold the law. But any day on any street at any minute you can see them not doing that. And it begs the question, why does Thailand have a police force at all. So much crime is committed by them (including one mentioned in the article) that without them the crime rate would fall as they would have no uniform to back them up.

[StevieAus]

9 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

It's a strange country, isn't it. The police have only one job, which is to uphold the law. But any day on any street at any minute you can see them not doing that. And it begs the question, why does Thailand have a police force at all. So much crime is committed by them (including one mentioned in the article) that without them the crime rate would fall as they would have no uniform to back them up.

I think a lot of expats base the view on lack of action on what is observed regarding motoring offenses.

The jails seem to be full so they must be arresting some people.

A few years ago my wife got conned re some furniture bought online.

I told her to forget about it but she persisted and the police were pretty good tracking down the culprit which surprised me.

We also have a very good Thai friend who is a detective and seems pretty active.

In Sydney the police are not interested in pursuing minor crimes and stopped attending home break ins more years ago than I can remember now you get a report number over the phone to lodge with your Insurer.

I believe in the UK shop lifters are not charged if the amount is under something like 200 pounds, so maybe it’s a world wide problem.

 

 

[worgeordie]

A razor blade would be cheaper and a permanent solution ,

especially for the kiddy fiddlers  

 

regards worgeordie

[spidermike007]

If it can be proven, if there is evidence of a crime, and not just a woman's allegation, then there is no limit to the punishment which should be meted out. If only an allegation, then it may be suspect. I have always thought that you cannot ruin a man's life over one woman saying one thing happened, long, long ago. If it can somehow be proven, that is very different. 

[chalawaan]

Agree, chemically neuter the rapey <deleted>!

[joecoolfrog]

I have every sympathy for the women in question but the article is worthless.

In theory those with power and influence are subject to the same laws and penalties as the average joe.

The reality of course is very different and the privileged minority can literally get away with murder.

Wont change anytime soon !

[The Theory]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

If approved it would mean that offenders could face having to wear Electric Monitoring anklets on release for up to ten years. 

"If" ????

Same type of offenders will not let it to be approved. ????????

[edogthong]

I was hoping to find at least one comment with a smidgeon of wisdom behind it. Instead, it's the usual "execute them!", "castrate them properly", "no penalty is hard enough" etc from the same crowd who were basically cheering when an innocent 19 year old South-African girl got a life sentence for something she didn't do. Of course, most of you didn't even bother to read her story. It's just primitive knee jerk reactions with you lot. Do you really think Thailand is the sort of country where penalties should become ever more harsh? Do you really have that much trust that the Thai criminal justice system won't be abused? Please, for once, think further than your <deleted>

[metisdead]

Some insensitive troll posts and the replies have been removed.

 

An inflammatory post has been removed.

[Eano]

Well said!

One reasonable reply in 15. About par for the course ...

[novacova]

8 hours ago, Xonax said:

Surgical castration would be a lot better!

No, it should be done publicly on a tamarind chopping block 

[novacova]

3 hours ago, edogthong said:

I was hoping to find at least one comment with a smidgeon of wisdom behind it. Instead, it's the usual "execute them!", "castrate them properly", "no penalty is hard enough" etc from the same crowd who were basically cheering when an innocent 19 year old South-African girl got a life sentence for something she didn't do. Of course, most of you didn't even bother to read her story. It's just primitive knee jerk reactions with you lot. Do you really think Thailand is the sort of country where penalties should become ever more harsh? Do you really have that much trust that the Thai criminal justice system won't be abused? Please, for once, think further than your <deleted>

The problem with most sex offenders, especially child violators is that they have the propensity to continue violating victims after they’re released from incarceration. So it’s imperative to be 100% sure that the accused is a perpetrator. So yes, the perpetrators need severe punishment for disrupting and destroying a persons life for a selfish act

[hotchilli]

20 hours ago, webfact said:

Suthin said that new legislation called JSOC was awaiting royal consent. If approved it would mean that offenders could face having to wear Electric Monitoring anklets on release for up to ten years. 

This would be up to a court's discretion.

How does wearing an ankle monitoring device prevent them from re-offending.

No excuses.

DO THE CRIME DO THE TIME...

[2baht]

16 hours ago, Xonax said:

Surgical castration would be a lot better!

Feed the ducks! ????

[metisdead]

An offensive troll post has been removed.

[brianthainess]

21 hours ago, webfact said:

If it is done it would lower their sexual desire and lead to an agreed reduction in their sentence. 

Sounds good in theory but; Chemical castration only lasts about 3 months and is very expensive, at about 100,000 baht a time !  correct me if i'm wrong but on a ten year sentence that's 40million baht !!!!!!!!!! + all the probation fees etc.

[Road Warrior]

great idea

[Emdog]

22 hours ago, Almer said:

Chemical castration, they have been talking to my Mrs 

If your Mrs. anything like my ex, she would go for psychological castration... leaves no evidence

[edogthong]

12 hours ago, novacova said:

So yes, the perpetrators need severe punishment for disrupting and destroying a persons life for a selfish act

Congratulations for completely missing my point. Obviously, all violent and sex criminals DESERVE severe punishment. I wasn't arguing against that. My point is that innocent people will get convicted and suffer these consequences while others who are guilty will be let off the hook. I was merely question the wisdom of calling for harsher penalties in a country with a highly corrupt and imperfect justice system.