Popular Post webfact Posted September 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2022 Picture: Siam Rath Siam Rath published lots of pictures of farmers forlornly pointing at what is loosely referred to as their road. It's a mass of tire tracks and rivulets and they can't get their produce through to market. Some one hundred complainants from five villages across two sub-districts gathered to tell the media their version of road rage. Picture: Siam Rath Phajon, 59, said they were fed up with it all. Many locals turned out to do the activity favored at such protests - a bit of pointing as they demanded that the relevant authorities get repairing. -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2022-09-15 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Monthly car subscription with first-class insurance, 24x7 assistance and more in one price - click here to find out more! Get your business in front of millions of customers who read ASEAN NOW with an interest in Thailand every month - email [email protected] for more information 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsianAtHeart Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 I don't suppose the rain and lack of gravel had anything to do with that. Aren't they pointing to their own tire tracks? With the whole group of them there, one would think it possible for them to go in together on purchasing a little gravel for their road--if nothing else, at least for those rougher spots. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Orinoco Posted September 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) Team effort, 9 out of 10 for pointing. A sterling job. would have given 10 out of 10 But second pic, guy with hands at side, zero effort letting the side down. Edited September 15, 2022 by Orinoco 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, Orinoco said: Team effort, 9 out of 10 for pointing. I'd profer a 6, they lack accuracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MJCM Posted September 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, AsianAtHeart said: With the whole group of them there, one would think it possible for them to go in together on purchasing a little gravel for their road--if nothing else, at least for those rougher spots. And you think that will stay? After a couple of rain storms it will be all washed away! How I know, in our OLD village there is 2km of the same kind of road which is the major road out of there (now) because the other road is flooded. A couple of months all (most) off the villagers chipped in and put gravel on the whole stretch (and used their tractors to level it etc etc), a couple of weeks later it was ALL gone (washed away) Edited September 15, 2022 by MJCM 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 I'm glad that they were all pointing, it would have been a mystery as to what to look at if there was no pointing. Keep up the great work Pointers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsianAtHeart Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 1 hour ago, MJCM said: And you think that will stay? After a couple of rain storms it will be all washed away! How I know, in our OLD village there is 2km of the same kind of road which is the major road out of there (now) because the other road is flooded. A couple of months all (most) off the villagers chipped in and put gravel on the whole stretch (and used their tractors to level it etc etc), a couple of weeks later it was ALL gone (washed away) Was that on the side of a hill with no ditch and culverts to direct the runoff under the road? Naturally, if the road is part of the floodplain and/or basically a riverbed, you'll have a hard time keeping gravel there. But in that case, even asphalt won't last too long before it is undermined and washed out as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 1 hour ago, AsianAtHeart said: Was that on the side of a hill with no ditch and culverts to direct the runoff under the road? Naturally, if the road is part of the floodplain and/or basically a riverbed, you'll have a hard time keeping gravel there. But in that case, even asphalt won't last too long before it is undermined and washed out as well. Not on a side of the Hill! Just a straight road alongside rice fields. The road in question doesn't look as bad as the one in the OP but it is absolutely full of potholes. No pleasure to drive on it! Villagers can't wait till the end of rainy season, because then one of these road graders will come and make the road oke again (till the start of the rainy season that is) Funny story about that road. It connects 2 villages together, they got the money to start building a concrete road (total of 4(ish) km long) So they started to build the road at the other village, because that is closer to the main route to the "bigger" city where the concrete has to come from. Oke end of story, money completely gone and only approx half of the road road finished and that is now 3-4 years ago. TiT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluuay yai Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Orinoco said: Team effort, 9 out of 10 for pointing. A sterling job. would have given 10 out of 10 But second pic, guy with hands at side, zero effort letting the side down. That "guy" is a woman . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Denim Posted September 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2022 3 hours ago, MJCM said: A couple of months all (most) off the villagers chipped in and put gravel on the whole stretch (and used their tractors to level it etc etc), a couple of weeks later it was ALL gone (washed away) Oh its all still there , pressed down under the mud. Dig down 6 inches or so and you will find the gravel. If you lay gravel on mud, then it rains and then everyone drives on it, this is what happens. Ask any Roman, they will tell you so. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, Denim said: Oh its all still there , pressed down under the mud. Dig down 6 inches or so and you will find the gravel. If you lay gravel on mud, then it rains and then everyone drives on it, this is what happens. Ask any Roman, they will tell you so. Makes total sense. thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoguy21 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 4 hours ago, AsianAtHeart said: I don't suppose the rain and lack of gravel had anything to do with that. Aren't they pointing to their own tire tracks? With the whole group of them there, one would think it possible for them to go in together on purchasing a little gravel for their road--if nothing else, at least for those rougher spots. I would have thought there must be enough buildings being demolished all over for them to get some of the concrete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Sorry your plight is not our concern , we need the money to buy useless Submarines ,yes they have no engines ,but the commissions are excellent, and we need the newest jet fighters ,although they might be too complicated to fly , anyway the rainy season will be over and roads will be dry..... regards worgeordie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Don't suppose that this lot have heard of drainage! We have the same problems up here. More roads like that than highways. Get in there with a chog-chog and get the water to run off. A hundred lorry loads of red stone would sort it. But expensive at the mo'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwill Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Mass pointings are better than mass shootings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Gluuay yai said: That "guy" is a woman . Oops, my bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotsak Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Fingerfest ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsianAtHeart Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 6 hours ago, Denim said: Oh its all still there , pressed down under the mud. Dig down 6 inches or so and you will find the gravel. If you lay gravel on mud, then it rains and then everyone drives on it, this is what happens. Ask any Roman, they will tell you so. If this is what actually happened, and it sounds quite probable, my recommendation would be for a larger rock size to start with. Get river rock--the stuff that averages 2" - 4" (5-10 cm) in diameter. It's hard to drive on, so do NOT do this during dry season: make sure you have mud for it to sink into. Once that stuff gets pressed in / settled out, you can then bring in the more ordinary gravel. In lieu of this, the only other way is to put a very HEAVY layer of the ordinary gravel, one which makes it difficult to drive through for awhile until it sinks in as well. Been there, done that. I actually had to remove some of the layer as it was so thick the wheels tended to get stuck in it (the gravel that is--which was at least a foot (30 cm) thick, and more in places). Of course, if you've got the dough and the manpower, you could always lay down a cobblestone road with bricks. Some villages I've seen, such as near Mae Hong Son, have done this. In Tak province there are a number of roads with two concrete tracks. Saves money and time in making them, but can be a challenge to keep the vehicle on the tracks without slipping over one edge or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 They are complaining about having to use this muddy road, as they laid out their rice to dry on the main road. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 11 hours ago, webfact said: they demanded that the relevant authorities get repairing How does someone go about repairing mud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry2222 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 The uturn near my location of Bangkok area looks similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 To me it looks like small roads connecting the farms to main and village roads. That they have to fix themselves, same as my wife´s father have to do every second year. Not, newsworthy at all. Just to stop complaining and fix the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, AsianAtHeart said: If this is what actually happened, and it sounds quite probable, my recommendation would be for a larger rock size to start with. Get river rock--the stuff that averages 2" - 4" (5-10 cm) in diameter. It's hard to drive on, so do NOT do this during dry season: make sure you have mud for it to sink into. Once that stuff gets pressed in / settled out, you can then bring in the more ordinary gravel. In lieu of this, the only other way is to put a very HEAVY layer of the ordinary gravel, one which makes it difficult to drive through for awhile until it sinks in as well. Been there, done that. I actually had to remove some of the layer as it was so thick the wheels tended to get stuck in it (the gravel that is--which was at least a foot (30 cm) thick, and more in places). Of course, if you've got the dough and the manpower, you could always lay down a cobblestone road with bricks. Some villages I've seen, such as near Mae Hong Son, have done this. In Tak province there are a number of roads with two concrete tracks. Saves money and time in making them, but can be a challenge to keep the vehicle on the tracks without slipping over one edge or another. You must be the only surviving Roman ! My wise father used to say : Cheapest is more expensive in the end. Edited September 15, 2022 by Denim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 It's a fair bet that the money for a concrete road has already been allocated - but ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 14 hours ago, AsianAtHeart said: I don't suppose the rain and lack of gravel had anything to do with that. Aren't they pointing to their own tire tracks? With the whole group of them there, one would think it possible for them to go in together on purchasing a little gravel for their road--if nothing else, at least for those rougher spots. Is that how government is supposed to work--you're on your own, build your own infrastructure? Is that how Bangkok got its skytrain and subway built; everyone "went together" to put it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsianAtHeart Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, heybruce said: Is that how government is supposed to work--you're on your own, build your own infrastructure? Yes, if it is a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. No, if the government is despotic, anarchical, monarchical, or autocratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 39 minutes ago, AsianAtHeart said: Yes, if it is a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. No, if the government is despotic, anarchical, monarchical, or autocratic. I don't think anarchical governments are known for building infrastructure, or anything else. Despotic, monarchical and autocratic government will sometimes develop their capital cities into first world showcase cities while the rest of the country exists in third world conditions. Kind of the way Bangkok was in the 1990's, and to a lesser degree still is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 22 hours ago, AsianAtHeart said: I don't suppose the rain and lack of gravel had anything to do with that. Aren't they pointing to their own tire tracks? With the whole group of them there, one would think it possible for them to go in together on purchasing a little gravel for their road--if nothing else, at least for those rougher spots. So now the people are responsible for repairing the roads too?!? What next? Should they also diagnose themselves when sick and carry out the operation as well? The country has money to squander on submarines, military arsenal, watches, etc., but they can't improve the infrastructure in rural Thailand? Billions (trillions?) being spent in the capital on projects to make life easier for the Bangkokians, but in places where the residents don't drive BMWs, Mercedes-Benzs or Porsches can take care of the roads themselves?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 23 hours ago, Orinoco said: Team effort, 9 out of 10 for pointing. A sterling job. would have given 10 out of 10 But second pic, guy with hands at side, zero effort letting the side down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluuay yai Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, Orinoco said: Oops, my bad. All good some of those rural thai women are fairly robust. Lol. Edited September 16, 2022 by Gluuay yai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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