Republicans announce investigation into Joe Biden !

[Chomper Higgot]

A distraction from the deep mess the Republicans are in.

 

The news going forward is going to be the damage Trump is doing to the GOP and the damage the DOJ is going to do to Trump.

[billd766]

2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

False.

 

"After Paradigm, James Biden landed a new gig. Despite a lack of experience in the construction industry, he was named an executive vice president at HillStone International, a subsidiary of New Jersey-based construction firm Hill International, in November 2010.

In June 2011, the firm landed contracts worth an estimated $1.5 billion to build homes in Iraq. At the time, HillStone had little homebuilding experience. Joe Biden was leading the administration’s Iraq policy. "

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/08/02/joe-biden-investigation-hunter-brother-hedge-fund-money-2020-campaign-227407/

Once upon a time......

 

Another fairy story for you to read.

 

It seems to me that if anything were provable it would have been dealt with years ago.

 

Just in case you think I am biased, I will give you a quote from a senior Republican, now no longer in any political office.

 

It is nothing but a political witch hunt.

[ozimoron]

“I want to warn our colleagues: There may be some activists in our party that want impeachment. But I can tell you that the swing voters and the independent voters don’t. …We change leadership by elections, impeachment is the outlier,” Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) said.

 

Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), a member of a shrinking number of old school dealmakers, echoed that concern.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/17/house-gop-formally-launches-hunt-for-smoking-gun-on-bidens-00069183

[Bkk Brian]

4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Joe Biden never discussed business with his son or his sons associates. 

 

Just because Biden denied this (whether he was telling the truth or not)  does not make it a conspiracy theory as you claim, you should probably look up what that means.....lol

[ozimoron]

"You can't talk about a presidential office and a presidential family benefitting financially from the office without talking about the First Family of the Trumps," said Bardella.

 

"Without talking about Jared's billion-dollar Saudi Arabia deal, without talking about what just came out last week from the Oversight Committee that Trump's foreign hotels — that foreign countries were bilking the taxpayers, spending money after money trying to enrich Donald Trump personally.

 

You can't talk about malfeasance without talking about how Donald Trump handled classified information.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/former-gop-staffer-explains-why-new-republican-hunter-biden-crusade-is-falling-flat/

[simple1]

Fox host trashes House Republicans for 'wasting time' with 'boring' Biden investigation:

 

https://www.rawstory.com/republican-house-no-inflation-solutions/

[300sd]

5 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Probably not. By all accounts he was a drug addict. Would you be in business with your son if he was a drug addict and you had a well paying senate gig? No, I didn't think so.

Joe Biden on Hunter Biden: 'He's the Smartest Man I Know'

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washington/susan-jones/joe-biden-hunter-biden-hes-smartest-man-i-know

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5 hours ago, connda said:

That didn't take long.

I'll be honest.  Especially after the revelations that it seems as though Ukraine is the quintessential place to launder US taxpayer money provided to Ukraine trough outfits like FTX and then converted back to fiat and donated back to US congress-critters?  And trust me, I'm a political atheist and I'm pointing fingers at all parties, not just one individual or one party.

The entire DC swamp, all of it, needs to be drained.  Organizations such as the FBI and DOJ need to be completely apolitical and aligned with no parties.  And the corruption needs to be addressed and resolved from top to bottom - Democrat or Republican - President to ex-President; top officials to staffers.  Everyone.

If the US is to be what it claims to be.....the exceptional nation?  And I assume "exceptional" means above corruption.  Right now "exceptional" seems to mean exceptionally corrupt. Then it needs to stop acting like a third-world tin-pot bastion of corruption.  Congressmen and senators, presidents and ex-preidents should not be able to become multi-millionaires on their government salaries.  The only way that happens is via corruption. 

So - clean it up. 

Despite your protestations of non-partisanship, you clearly are getting your misinformation from right wing conspiracy sources.

 

Posts spin baseless theory about FTX, Ukraine and Democrats

CLAIM: U.S. aid to Ukraine was laundered back to the Democratic Party through the failed cryptocurrency exchange firm FTX.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-ftx-ukraine-democrats-laundering-996663874380

 

As for assertion that the "the FBI and DOJ need to be completely apolitical"

As you are clearly not aware, after Inspector General Michael Horowitz declared he found no evidence that the decision to investigate the Russian connection to the Trump campaign, was influenced by politics. In a startling statement, William Barr, the Attorney General disagreed. In an even more startling statement, so did John Durham, the prosecutor that Barr appointed to get to the bottom of it. After 3 years, Durham managed only to fail at convicting 2 people who were said to have deceived the FBI. (A third person was convicted of falsifying info but that information came from Horowitz' investigation).

 

And it's interesting that you are so concerned with corruption but don't mention an ex-President who pardoned criminals who could possibly have implicated him in crimes.  '

 

So give up your posture of non-partisanship. You're not fooling anybody. At least, I hope so.

 

 

 

 

[ThailandRyan]

5 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You know full well there is more to the Biden/Burisma/Shokin/Son of a ___ he got fired!/Trump impeachment than a simple guy doing private business. We are going to get to the bottom of it. I suspect it will be very painful for some having their conspiracy theories upended.

Go on believing your views 

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, 300sd said:

Joe Biden on Hunter Biden: 'He's the Smartest Man I Know'

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washington/susan-jones/joe-biden-hunter-biden-hes-smartest-man-i-know

Headlines eh, the actual context is very warming, how all parents should be:

 

"Well, look," Biden said, pausing briefly, "we have great confidence in our son, I am not concerned about any accusation made against him, it's used to get to me, I think it's kind of foul play, but look, it is what it is. And he's a grown man -- he is the smartest man I know, I mean, in a pure intellectual capacity. And as long as he's good, we're good."

Colbert expressed admiration for Joe's response, but asked Biden: "Can you reach across the aisle to people who will be using this as an attack on you, when it is such a personal attack, because it's about family." "If it benefits the country, yes," Biden replied. "I really mean it.

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6 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You know full well there is more to the Biden/Burisma/Shokin/Son of a ___ he got fired!/Trump impeachment than a simple guy doing private business. We are going to get to the bottom of it. I suspect it will be very painful for some having their conspiracy theories upended.

Actually, what we know is that this was a hatchet job on Biden done at the behest of Rudolph Giuliani, the President's private lawyer.. Much of his "evidence" if that's what you want to call it, came from 2 dubious characters who are now serving prison sentences for fraud. They were working for another oligarch, Derpashka, who had made a fortune by dubious means in the natural gas business in Ukraine. He is a fugitive from justice and is fighting extradition to the USA.

Biden was sent by the US and supported by the EU to give an ultimatum to Ukraine to get rid of a corrupt prosecutor named Shokin. This prosecutor claimed he was dismissed because he was investigating Burisma. The people who worked with him say that wasn't true. He was not investigating Burisma when he was fired. And once again, this was not Biden's idea or plan. On the US side it was pushed by the then-ambassador to Ukraine who was subsequently slandered by Giuliani. She was just one of many in that regard. Biden was just the messenger for Obama and the State Dept.

Edited November 18, 2022 by placeholder

[dotcalm]

Some of the investigative evidence includes 150 banking transactions (SARS) flagged by US banks as meriting further review,

SARs:

"Committee Republicans have sought Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs) in the custody of the U.S. Department of the Treasury (Treasury) that are related to Biden family financial transactions and accounts. SARs are generated by American banks and submitted to the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) within Treasury when customers engage in a range of activities outside the normal course of business, including large, suspicious transactions that may indicate criminal activity. Between Hunter Biden and James Biden, President Biden’s brother, American banks have generated at least 150 SARs"

 

https://news.yahoo.com/u-banks-flagged-over-150-134755221.html

 

https://republicans-oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Interim-Staff-Report-A-President-Compromised-The-Biden-Family-Investigation.pdf

 

Biden, his son, & brother can just come out and deny all the allegations, (which they have not done AFAIK), cooperate with the investigation and show he is not corrupted and compromised by the alleged and documented pay to play schemes of his family. The congressional oversight committee claim there are no less than 14 whistleblowers who have come forwarded and they may have evidence including conspiracy to defraud the United States, tax evasion and money laundering by members of Biden's family.

Biden could be cooked VERY soon and likely forced to alocute, and resign in disgrace or even face impeachment and criminal indictment. His brother and son may end up behind the pipes too.

 

The committee headed by Jim Jordan have no need to push mis/disinformation like the Russia hoax, fake bought and paid for Hillary / steele dossier, etc, there seems to be predicate for and probable cause to investigate Biden as he could be the most corrupt politician in US history. This will bear out in the months that follow.

Edited November 18, 2022 by dotcalm

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5 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

Some of the investigative evidence includes 150 banking transactions flagged by US banks as meriting further review.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/u-banks-flagged-over-150-134755221.html

 

https://republicans-oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Interim-Staff-Report-A-President-Compromised-The-Biden-Family-Investigation.pdf

 

Biden, his son, & brother can just come out and deny all the allegations, (which they have not done AFAIK), cooperate with the investigation and show he is not corrupted and compromised by the alleged and documented pay to play schemes of his family. The congressional oversight committee claim there are no less than 14 whistleblowers who have come forwarded and they may have evidence including conspiracy to defraud the United States, tax evasion and money laundering by members of Biden's family.

Biden could be cooked VERY soon and likely forced to alocute, and resign in disgrace or even face impeachment and criminal indictment. His brother and son may end up behind the pipes too.

 

The committee headed by Jim Jordan have no need to push mis/disinformation like the Russia hoax, fake bought and paid for Hillary / steele dossier, etc, there seems to be predicate for and probable cause to investigate Biden as he could be the most corrupt politician in US history. This will bear out in the months that follow.

Large overseas wire transactions are routinely flagged by banks. Any amount $10,000 and over has to be reported to the Federal govt. It's not at all clear whether these transfers being flagged are significant.

 

Even if the allegations against Hunter and James Biden prove to be true, to date no one has found a nickel of illicitly earned money by Biden. 

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Large overseas wire transactions are routinely flagged by banks. Any amount $10,000 and over has to be reported to the Federal govt. It's not at all clear whether these transfers being flagged are significant.

 

Even if the allegations against Hunter and James Biden prove to be true, to date no one has found a nickel of illicitly earned money by Biden. 

It's almost as if the payments were ignored after being flagged by the banks.

[placeholder]

7 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

It's almost as if the payments were ignored after being flagged by the banks.

The thing is, if banks have serious enough suspicions about a money transfer, they can actually refuse to perform it.

[Bkk Brian]

25 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

Some of the investigative evidence includes 150 banking transactions (SARS) flagged by US banks as meriting further review,

SARs:

"Committee Republicans have sought Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs) in the custody

 

of the U.S. Department of the Treasury (Treasury) that are related to Biden family financial

 

transactions and accounts. SARs are generated by American banks and submitted to the

 

Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) within Treasury when customers engage in a

 

range of activities outside the normal course of business, including large, suspicious transactions that may indicate criminal activity.7 Between Hunter Biden and James Biden, President Biden’s brother, American banks have generated at least 150 SARs"

 

 

 

https://news.yahoo.com/u-banks-flagged-over-150-134755221.html

 

https://republicans-oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Interim-Staff-Report-A-President-Compromised-The-Biden-Family-Investigation.pdf

 

Biden, his son, & brother can just come out and deny all the allegations, (which they have not done AFAIK), cooperate with the investigation and show he is not corrupted and compromised by the alleged and documented pay to play schemes of his family. The congressional oversight committee claim there are no less than 14 whistleblowers who have come forwarded and they may have evidence including conspiracy to defraud the United States, tax evasion and money laundering by members of Biden's family.

Biden could be cooked VERY soon and likely forced to alocute, and resign in disgrace or even face impeachment and criminal indictment. His brother and son may end up behind the pipes too.

 

The committee headed by Jim Jordan have no need to push mis/disinformation like the Russia hoax, fake bought and paid for Hillary / steele dossier, etc, there seems to be predicate for and probable cause to investigate Biden as he could be the most corrupt politician in US history. This will bear out in the months that follow.

LOL, going by your previous predictions, I'll pass on these too

[dotcalm]

29 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Large overseas wire transactions are routinely flagged by banks. Any amount $10,000 and over has to be reported to the Federal govt. It's not at all clear whether these transfers being flagged are significant.

 

Even if the allegations against Hunter and James Biden prove to be true, to date no one has found a nickel of illicitly earned money by Biden. 

If there's nothing to hide and all transactions are above board, then just cooperate.

 

"The US Treasury Department has formally rejected a Republican lawmaker’s bid to examine “suspicious activity reports” on first son Hunter Biden — because the request wasn’t okayed by Democrats in Congress."

 

https://nypost.com/2022/09/03/gop-treasury-runs-cover-for-hunter-biden-withholds-banking-docs/

 

The congressional investigation will have full subpoena power & will get any and all records and documents necessary, it is pointless to try to hide now. Biden's family is going to fess up sooner or later and I think sooner than some would like.

What an utter disgrace and humiliation for a failed presidency I would expect the outcome will be!

 

 

Edited November 18, 2022 by dotcalm

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

If there's nothing to hide and all transactions are above board, then just cooperate.

 

"The US Treasury Department has formally rejected a Republican lawmaker’s bid to examine “suspicious activity reports” on first son Hunter Biden — because the request wasn’t okayed by Democrats in Congress."

 

https://nypost.com/2022/09/03/gop-treasury-runs-cover-for-hunter-biden-withholds-banking-docs/

 

 

 

But wait, it is ok for Trump while he was President to fail to turn over his taxes for a review?  Hmmm

[dotcalm]

3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

But wait, it is ok for Trump while he was President to fail to turn over his taxes for a review?  Hmmm

Whats that go to do with anything?

LOL

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

But wait, it is ok for Trump while he was President to fail to turn over his taxes for a review?  Hmmm

How does that relate to Joe Biden being investigated ?

What is the connection between the two issues?

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

How does that relate to Joe Biden being investigated ?

What is the connection between the two issues?

The hypocrisy of going after Biden Jr's tax returns while hiding your own?

[ThailandRyan]

5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

How does that relate to Joe Biden being investigated ?

What is the connection between the two issues?

You must not see the hypocrisy and irony...

[candide]

39 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

Some of the investigative evidence includes 150 banking transactions flagged by US banks as meriting further review, SARS:

Committee Republicans have sought Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs) in the custody
of the U.S. Department of the Treasury (Treasury) that are related to Biden family financial
transactions and accounts. SARs are generated by American banks and submitted to the
Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) within Treasury when customers engage in a
range of activities outside the normal course of business, including large, suspicious transactions
that may indicate criminal activity.7 Between Hunter Biden and James Biden, President Biden’s
brother, American banks have generated at least 150 SARs

 

https://news.yahoo.com/u-banks-flagged-over-150-134755221.html

 

https://republicans-oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Interim-Staff-Report-A-President-Compromised-The-Biden-Family-Investigation.pdf

 

Biden, his son, & brother can just come out and deny all the allegations, (which they have not done AFAIK), cooperate with the investigation and show he is not corrupted and compromised by the alleged and documented pay to play schemes of his family. The congressional oversight committee claim there are no less than 14 whistleblowers who have come forwarded and they may have evidence including conspiracy to defraud the United States, tax evasion and money laundering by members of Biden's family.

Biden could be cooked VERY soon and likely forced to alocute, and resign in disgrace or even face impeachment and criminal indictment. His brother and son may end up behind the pipes too.

 

The committee headed by Jim Jordan have no need to push mis/disinformation like the Russia hoax, fake bought and paid for Hillary / steele dossier, etc, there seems to be predicate for and probable cause to investigate Biden as he could be the most corrupt politician in US history. This will bear out in the months that follow.

You are getting it the wrong way. They don't need to show they are not compromised (and Joe is not concerned anyway). It must be proven they are compromised. It's currently being officially investigated for years (by a Republican). There's no need for a ridiculous Jim Jordan show.

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

You must not see the hypocrisy and irony...

Exactly, Trump and his Republican allies in Congress made Hunter Biden’s business dealings in China and Ukraine a line of attack against the elder Biden during the 2020 election campaign

[billd766]

39 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

Some of the investigative evidence includes 150 banking transactions (SARS) flagged by US banks as meriting further review,

SARs:

"Committee Republicans have sought Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs) in the custody of the U.S. Department of the Treasury (Treasury) that are related to Biden family financial transactions and accounts. SARs are generated by American banks and submitted to the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) within Treasury when customers engage in a range of activities outside the normal course of business, including large, suspicious transactions that may indicate criminal activity. Between Hunter Biden and James Biden, President Biden’s brother, American banks have generated at least 150 SARs"

 

https://news.yahoo.com/u-banks-flagged-over-150-134755221.html

 

https://republicans-oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Interim-Staff-Report-A-President-Compromised-The-Biden-Family-Investigation.pdf

 

Biden, his son, & brother can just come out and deny all the allegations, (which they have not done AFAIK), cooperate with the investigation and show he is not corrupted and compromised by the alleged and documented pay to play schemes of his family. The congressional oversight committee claim there are no less than 14 whistleblowers who have come forwarded and they may have evidence including conspiracy to defraud the United States, tax evasion and money laundering by members of Biden's family.

Biden could be cooked VERY soon and likely forced to alocute, and resign in disgrace or even face impeachment and criminal indictment. His brother and son may end up behind the pipes too.

 

The committee headed by Jim Jordan have no need to push mis/disinformation like the Russia hoax, fake bought and paid for Hillary / steele dossier, etc, there seems to be predicate for and probable cause to investigate Biden as he could be the most corrupt politician in US history. This will bear out in the months that follow.

quote

 

The congressional oversight committee claim there are no less than 14 whistleblowers who have come forwarded and they may have evidence including conspiracy to defraud the United States, tax evasion and money laundering by members of Biden's family.

 

It is that word again.

 

may

 

Not they have or they don't have, just that they may have.

 

All the congressional oversight committee have to do is produce these 14 people and get them to swear under oath, in court, that what they allege is true and correct. They must be warned before they speak, of the penalties for lying under oath.

 

If it is true and verifiable, all well and good, if not................

[candide]

19 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

If there's nothing to hide and all transactions are above board, then just cooperate.

 

"The US Treasury Department has formally rejected a Republican lawmaker’s bid to examine “suspicious activity reports” on first son Hunter Biden — because the request wasn’t okayed by Democrats in Congress."

 

https://nypost.com/2022/09/03/gop-treasury-runs-cover-for-hunter-biden-withholds-banking-docs/

 

The congressional investigation now will full subpoena power will get any and all records and documents necessary, it is pointless to try to hide now. Biden's family is going to fess up sooner or later and I think sooner than some would like.

What an utter disgrace and humiliation for a failed presidency I would expect the outcome will be!

 

 

The treasury has rejected a request to copy the files, however, it is not forbidden to House reps. to consult the files. And what did they found? Nothing.

[Phoenix Rising]

7 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You know full well there is more to the Biden/Burisma/Shokin/Son of a ___ he got fired!/Trump impeachment than a simple guy doing private business. We are going to get to the bottom of it. I suspect it will be very painful for some having their conspiracy theories upended.

You must be terribly confused. You're part of the cult sprouting all the conspiracy nonsense....????

[Phoenix Rising]

7 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

This is no longer about Hunter. We have crossed the Rubicon. This is now about President Joe Biden and his alleged corruption.

Well, if there ever was a time to use the slightly moronic term "nothing burger" then this is it.

[dotcalm]

1 minute ago, candide said:

You are getting it the wrong way. They don't need to show they are not compromised (and Joe is not concerned anyway). It must be proven they are compromised. It's currently being officially investigated for years (by a Republican). There's no need for a ridiculous Jim Jordan show.

The investigation is only just getting started now, and with whistleblowers, subpoena's, testifying under oath, the truth of the Biden crime families activities will be revealed. The people have the right to know if Biden is compromised, any American would want that.

[placeholder]

8 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

False.

 

"After Paradigm, James Biden landed a new gig. Despite a lack of experience in the construction industry, he was named an executive vice president at HillStone International, a subsidiary of New Jersey-based construction firm Hill International, in November 2010.

In June 2011, the firm landed contracts worth an estimated $1.5 billion to build homes in Iraq. At the time, HillStone had little homebuilding experience. Joe Biden was leading the administration’s Iraq policy. "

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/08/02/joe-biden-investigation-hunter-brother-hedge-fund-money-2020-campaign-227407/

I think it's clear that James and Hunter Biden are sleazy. But being sleazy isn't a crime. And as noted in the same article:

"There’s no evidence that Joe Biden used his power inappropriately or took action to benefit his relatives with respect to these ventures. Interviews, court records, government filings and news reports, however, reveal that some members of the Biden family have consistently mixed business and politics over nearly half a century, moving from one business to the next as Joe’s stature in Washington grew.

None of the ventures appear to have been runaway successes, and Biden’s relatives have not been accused of criminal wrongdoing in their dealings."

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/08/02/joe-biden-investigation-hunter-brother-hedge-fund-money-2020-campaign-227407/