Thailand’s Narcotics Control Board to meet next week to discuss making cannabis an illegal narcotic again

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Thousands of cannabis shops have opened just in Bangkok, almost like the 7-11 stores there's one or two on almost every street in Sathorn, on Sukhumvit, on Soi 11 and so on....the investment has been made. Food shops selling infused drinks etc. If this happens the revolt will be huge

The peasants are revolting... I've heard that somewhere before.

 

[DaiHard]

They seem to forget was that it was decriminalized in order to reduce the prison population after a scathing US report on prison overcrowding. Now a huge number of people have applied for licenses to grow their own, so the police will be obligated to arrest and convict them. Is Thailand going to build dozens of new prisons?

[Koguma]

4 hours ago, riverhigh said:

Don't smoke the stuff, don't take drugs ... no interest interest in socialising with self-absorbed stoners spouting the benefits of weed. For the most part, I find these people boring when they go into their own little bubble when under the influence, While weed may have some minimal medical benefits for the most part it has become a business selling a recreational drug of choice. It creates jobs and as the Thai prime minister stated there is no turning back. Too much money involved. Personally, I don't need the weed "crutch" to enjoy life, I have better things to spend my money on.

Speaking of "their own little bubble".   You bash others while grandstanding on your own little soapbox.  Good job.  Definitely no loss to the "stoners" you don't socialize with, keep at it please.

[DJ54]

Ridiculous to flip flop .. it’s not a ping pong match…. 

[ThailandRyan]

28 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

The peasants are revolting... I've heard that somewhere before.

 

Let them eat cake? maybe?

[ThailandRyan]

15 minutes ago, DJ54 said:

Ridiculous to flip flop .. it’s not a ping pong match…. 

No just a Ping Pong show from the entertainment venues....

[action]

Illegal like how prostitution is illegal?? 

[ThailandRyan]

Just now, action said:

Illegal like how prostitution is illegal?? 

There is no prostitution in Pattaya, we know that because they did a full investigation....

[nickmondo]

6 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Thousands of cannabis shops have opened just in Bangkok, almost like the 7-11 stores there's one or two on almost every street in Sathorn, on Sukhumvit, on Soi 11 and so on....the investment has been made. Food shops selling infused drinks etc. If this happens the revolt will be huge

precisely why i would never, ever, start a business in Thailand

they are forever changing their minds

[MrJ2U]

That's definitely a step backwards.

 

Just like the current Junta that running the country into the 3rd world status. 

[sambum]

32 minutes ago, DaiHard said:

They seem to forget was that it was decriminalized in order to reduce the prison population after a scathing US report on prison overcrowding. Now a huge number of people have applied for licenses to grow their own, so the police will be obligated to arrest and convict them. Is Thailand going to build dozens of new prisons?

 "Now a huge number of people have applied for licenses to grow their own, so the police will be obligated to arrest and convict them. "

 

No, they apply for the licence BEFORE they start growing their crop (theoretically!)

[sambum]

Just now, nickmondo said:

precisely why i would never, ever, start a business in Thailand

they are forever changing their minds

Yes "Hub of Turnarounds"

[Lancelot01]

6 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Thousands of cannabis shops have opened just in Bangkok, almost like the 7-11 stores there's one or two on almost every street in Sathorn, on Sukhumvit, on Soi 11 and so on....the investment has been made. Food shops selling infused drinks etc. If this happens the revolt will be huge

I see these shops in Bangkok and elsewhere in Thailand but, as yet, I have never seen any with customers inside. 

[goldenbrwn1]

6 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Thousands of cannabis shops have opened just in Bangkok, almost like the 7-11 stores there's one or two on almost every street in Sathorn, on Sukhumvit, on Soi 11 and so on....the investment has been made. Food shops selling infused drinks etc. If this happens the revolt will be huge

The brown padded envelopes will be huge . 

[RobU]

Are cannabis sales banned on certain public holidays and during elections?

Is cannabis sale be banned at certain times of the day?

Both these rules apply to alcohol

Cannabis affects decision making capability too and can be a temptation to children too

If they have not been applied to cannabis then the whole system is a joke and the legalisation of cannabis has definitely not been thought through before enacting

[Gandtee]

8 hours ago, 2baht said:

Shut the gate!..............................................................the horse has bolted! ????

Too late. If they do make it illegal they had better discuss the need to make new prisons. They released many of those accused of taking drugs. Now they will be going back to the old ways again. Typical of the one step forward and two steps back form of governance.????

[JWRC]

It's been quite interesting to me since it was legalized. First the plants popped up nearly everywhere, I was quite shocked when I saw them at the local plant nursery, why I was shocked I don't know, anyhow then little mum and dad shops had them out front, they were all over the local market, and my hairdresser had 3 plants by the door for sale. A month ago I was at a retirement dinner and we got talking and out of 10 people on my table I was the only one not partaking, I will say I was the only foreigner, my friends all said they were using it for medical reasons and couldn't understand why I wasn't using it, I was even more shocked by this as most of my friends are over retirement age, again why should I be shocked, everyone to their own. However for me I have seen what long term use has done to a close family member and consequently I wouldn't want my grandchildren to end up in that situation. As for me I have too much respect for my brain to want to fog it up. I am happy and can enjoy myself without any additives.

[2baht]

2 minutes ago, Gandtee said:

Typical of the one step forward and two steps back form of governance.????

Would they have it any other way? ????????

[connda]

They really want to kill the goose laying golden eggs.

And like alcohol, I say they only want their close friends and connected buddies to enjoy the economic benefit.  They'll just drive the commoners back underground and throw a ****-ton of people back into prison considering that a few million people in Thailand will be holding contraband cannabis in amounts that I consider to be 'personal use' but they'll state is amounts for trafficking.  Some absurd amount like a few grams.

In the meanwhile the methamphetamine trade is simply going gangbusters.  Pills retail at 10 THB down from 200 THB not that long ago.  Everyone in the village knows who is dealing, therefore the cops do too.  ????
Meth really is a scourge to society.  Long-term meth-heads/tweakers eventually go bonkers and can become unpredictably dangerous.  Local kids with no future (i.e., unwilling to work hard like their parents before them who still work in the field) turn to robbery, theft, and other unsavory ways of making money to supply their habit because meth IS addictive.
So Thailand will make cannabis illegal for the plebs to grow, sell, and use. Thais who have just found a way to make a better income will now become criminals overnight. Weak enforcement gets even weaker as cops who should be concentrating on reining in hard drugs that really do screw up society end up chasing down recreational cannabis users who smoke a spiff on occasion like many will drink a beer on occasion.  I wonder how many of the doctors and 'concerned puuyai' who are demanding recriminalization of cannabis routinely get skunk drunk on their Chivas Regal and JW Black and then driver around in their luxury cars like lunatics? 

[redwood1]

I would be for making alcohol. tobacco, coffee, and red bull illegal.....Hey a drug is a drug......Either drugs are legal or they are not....

[phetphet]

7 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Thousands of cannabis shops have opened just in Bangkok, almost like the 7-11 stores there's one or two on almost every street in Sathorn, on Sukhumvit, on Soi 11 and so on....the investment has been made. Food shops selling infused drinks etc. If this happens the revolt will be huge

I think the numbers will soon overtake 7-11. Over 15 weed shops on Chaweng beach road alone here in Samui. Some even offering home delivery.

Seems like every vacant shop post Covid is opening as a cannabis outlet.

 

I think the government will have a job the the cork back in that bottle. Or bong in this case.

 

Already had our ten year old asking questions about all these weed shops. Daddy. What is it? What is it for? 

 

[Bim Smith]

Never mind making it illegal again it should be mandatory for all politician's. What a great world that would be. Thailand might finally make some progress. A Hungry happy high political class. 

[robsamui]

Ha!
A hubub is afoot in the dope hub.
Thus telling the world that dopes are afoot in the idiot hub.

Thailand - Monty Python couldn't have scripted it!

 

[moldresistant]

22 minutes ago, phetphet said:

I think the numbers will soon overtake 7-11. Over 15 weed shops on Chaweng beach road alone here in Samui. Some even offering home delivery.

Seems like every vacant shop post Covid is opening as a cannabis outlet.

 

I think the government will have a job the the cork back in that bottle. Or bong in this case.

 

Already had our ten year old asking questions about all these weed shops. Daddy. What is it? What is it for? 

 

IMHO not much different from a child asking what a bar or massage parlor is. And there's plenty of those here too. But in this case it's simply a place adults go for their medicine.

 

 

[jacko45k]

1 hour ago, action said:

Illegal like how prostitution is illegal?? 

Not that old chestnut again!

[mikeymike100]

39 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

I would be for making alcohol. tobacco, coffee, and red bull illegal.....Hey a drug is a drug......Either drugs are legal or they are not....

Right, but surely making all drugs legal or illegal wouldn't work? Can you imagine if they banned nicotine, I'm pretty sure the cigarette manufacturers would have something to say, never mind how much tax the government would lose?

[Dogmatix]

Seems like there was a chaotic cabinet meeting, while Anutin was abroad, where the director general of the Herbs dept that issued the latest decree as a stopgap for the stalled Cannabis Bill was grilled and couldn't answer many of the questions because they were outside his narrow jurisdiction.

 

Sounds like Wissanu may have stepped in to put the matter up for discussion by the ONCB tomorrow with himself chairing the meeting, although he is nothing to do with the ONCB which is under the Justice Ministry. Wissanu is a snake who can't be trusted in any way. I guess, as as one of the triumvirate of junta "legal experts", his role here is to find a way to either tighten up laws or get cannabis banned again.

 

Wissanu said proposals made at the ONCB meeting will be sent to the cabinet for further discussion which means he already has a set of proposals for the the ONCB to rubber stamp. The ONCB's legal role is that under the Narcotics Act it has to approve any amendments made to the categories of controlled substances.  The minister of public health has the power to make amendments with the consent of the ONCB without the need for parliamentary scrutiny or cabinet resolutions. So it is the only body that has any say apart from the minister, which is obviously why Wissanu is dragging it into the equation.  So far the ONCB has been amenable to all the cannabis liberalisation moves proposed to it by Anutin but with Wissanu orchestrating things the ONCB may go along with whatever he has decided. If Wissanu pushes the ONCB to declare it made a horrible mistake and would not have approved legalisation, if it knew what was going to happen and that the Cannabis Bill would not be passed, that would obviously put Anutin under huge pressure to recriminalise. However, the sec gen of the ONCB might resist as it would imply that he made a colossal blunder in failing to protect the public and ought to resign.

 

This whole situation has been caused by the Democratic Party's U-turn in refusing to vote for the second reading of the Cannabis Bill, after wholeheartedly supporting the first reading.  Their own support has waned even further after a well known sexual harrasser was appointed deputy leader and the party leader refused to resign to take responsibility for that. Having been wiped out in Bangkok, it is under threat from Anutin's Bhum Jai Thai Party in its remaining power base in the South. Changing sides to oppose BJP's Cannabis Bill and pushing for recriminalisation was seen by the Dems as a desperate opportunistic move to head off the threat from BJP to its Southern seats in the next election, as Muslim clerics have voiced opposition to the legalisation.

Edited November 21, 2022 by Dogmatix

[PEE TEE]

But alcohol is still ok it never causes any problems ?

[jacko45k]

1 minute ago, PEE TEE said:

But alcohol is still ok it never causes any problems ?

What has that got to do with it?

[Mickmouse1]

That is what happens when you do not smoke but drink, flip flop...1 step 4ward 2 back haha55...

 

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