Elon Musk says Twitter will offer 'amnesty' to suspended accounts

[stevenl]

6 minutes ago, rabas said:

In response to the firings, the previous CEO, Jack Dempsey, apologized saying he grew company "too quickly".

 

If you want deeper understanding,  Search this phrase:  jack Dempsey apologizes grew company too quickly

 

Google has trouble finding the story, goes back to 2008 about Jack Dempsey.  Google even suggests a 'related' search to help you:   "How was blackbirding different to slavery?"  What!?

 

Duckduckoo immediately finds at least 50 references from everywhere, all on top.

With me google comes with a great number of hits. You realize it is your echo chamber that is directing your search results?

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

With me google comes with a great number of hits. You realize it is your echo chamber that is directing your search results?

Google produces not one result for me.

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11 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The core point in this whole saga. These companies were happy advertising on Twitter when they banned the New York Post for factually accurate reporting to allow a vile conspiracy theory to flourish, an overreach which has led almost up to civil war(2). They were happy when woke bullies were engaging in repeated hate actions, such as carrying the bloodied and severed head of a President and the comments following. Yet now now they whine? Trump hasn't even Tweeted since he was reinstated. His past posts do NOT show what we were told they showed and why a sitting President had to be banned while the Taliban and Iranian mullahs were not. 

 

 These companies now have a serious credibility problem and a lack of moral fibre. I expect it will turn out like it did for woke Bob Chapek at Disney(1) who pushed some whacky conspiracy theory while official measures were taken to protect vulnerable young children from predators. Well Chapek got FIRED for his nonsense. These companies had best suck it up and return to advertise on Twitter even if the bosses are personally triggered by free speech and having their biases challenged on factual bases. I can understand car companies pulling ads btw, it's understandable jealousy and should not be conflated with the companies having visceral reactions to opposing opinions and free speech.

 

sources substantiating claims made

(1)https://news.yahoo.com/disney-fires-ceo-bob-chapek-131235505.html

 

(2)https://time.com/6222633/second-civil-war-us-how-to-avoid/

 

The National Review article is a typical right wing hit piece. They attribute his firing to his "war" with Desantis but offer no evidence. And the article cites a poll from the Trafalgar group which predicted a huge republican victory. Just as it predicted a Trump victory in 2020. It's very much the Republicans' favorite pollster. And the question they asked, at the behest of a right wing group, is designed not to guage public opinion but to push it with slanted questions.

[stevenl]

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Google produces not one result for me.

It helps of course to write his name correctly.

Edited November 26, 2022 by stevenl

[rabas]

12 minutes ago, stevenl said:

With me google comes with a great number of hits. You realize it is your echo chamber that is directing your search results?

Google should not know who I am if I am not signed in. What location are you searching from? I am in Thailand.

 

EDIT: Yes my mistake, I got the last name wrong. Wonder why Duckduckgo found it so easily?

Edited November 26, 2022 by rabas

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12 minutes ago, rabas said:

In response to the firings, the previous CEO, Jack Dempsey, apologized saying he grew company "too quickly".

 

If you want deeper understanding,  Search this phrase:  jack Dempsey apologizes grew company too quickly

 

Google has trouble finding the story, goes back to 2008 about Jack Dempsey.  Google even suggests a 'related' search to help you:   "How was blackbirding different to slavery?"  What!?

 

Duckduckoo immediately finds at least 50 references from everywhere, all on top.

Did Jack Dempsey, the Manassa Mauler and former world heavyweight champion, come back from the grave to apologize for a company he had nothing to do with?

Now I looked up "Jack Dorsey apologizes for growing company too quickly" via google. Page 10 of the search was still chockful of references to that.

[rabas]

12 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Did Jack Dempsey, the Manassa Mauler and former world heavyweight champion, come back from the grave to apologize for a company he had nothing to do with?

Now I looked up "Jack Dorsey apologizes for growing company too quickly" via google. Page 10 of the search was still chockful of references to that.

Yes, see my previous post. But, does that mean Duckduck is a more powerful search engine...

Edited November 26, 2022 by rabas

[stevenl]

16 minutes ago, rabas said:

Google should not know who I am if I am not signed in. What location are you searching from? I am in Thailand.

 

EDIT: Yes my mistake, I got the last name wrong. Wonder why Duckduckgo found it so easily?

I'm searching from Thailand.

And yes, google will still know your search history, even if you're not signed in. Let me qualify that last statement, I'm convinced they still know your search history and probably a lot more about you as well.

Edited November 26, 2022 by stevenl

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, James105 said:

I find it quite amazing that those who have no idea how to run a business of the scale that Elon Musk has done are chipping in with advice for arguably the most successful businessman on the planet.   Yet these very same people did not feel the need to offer these pearls of wisdom to the previous CEOs who were losing money every year with their shambolic running of Twitter.    

The previous CEO didn't try to change large parts of the company within weeks.

And Musk obviously didn't think much. Like: how can you fire half the people and then think the rest has time to verify large amounts of new accounts. It's obvious that that wouldn't work.

He fired people and then he asked some of them to come back. Is that a smart move?

Obviously he can afford to lose large amounts of money, and maybe he doesn't even care if he and his new toy lose large amounts. Let's see what else comes to his mind.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

You could contact him on Twitter and tell him what he should be doing ?

Why should I do that?

I hope he f#%#s it up.

[ozimoron]

3 minutes ago, rabas said:

Yes, see my previous post. But, does that mean Duckduck is a more powerful search engine...

No, but it certainly casts a shadow over Google. Another thing I see in Google a lot lately is that "this is a rapidly evolving story" with no relevant results.

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8 minutes ago, rabas said:

Yes, see my previous post. But, does that mean Duckduck is a more powerful search engine...

On the basis of one search term it means exactly next to nothing.

[ozimoron]

The advertising situation at Twitter has been particularly dire since Musk took over the company in late October.

In recent weeks, half of Twitter's 100 top advertisers have announced they are suspending or have otherwise "seemingly stopped advertising on Twitter," an analysis conducted by nonprofit watchdog group Media Matters found.

 

They fear being associated with toxic content as Musk, who describes himself as a "free speech absolutist," advocates for laxer moderation.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/musk-announces-gold-gray-and-blue-badges-for-twitter-accounts-2658785362/

[Mac Mickmanus]

22 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Why should I do that?

I hope he f#%#s it up.

You should put personal dislikes aside and tell Mr Musk what he should be doing in regards to running Twitter

[ozimoron]

Elon Musk said he would make his own smartphone if Google and Apple were to ban Twitter from their app stores. 

 

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3750849-elon-musk-says-he-would-make-his-own-smart-phone-if-app-stores-ban-twitter/

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, James105 said:

Elon Musk is worth $262bn.   That's an impossible amount of money to be able to spend in a hundred lifetimes.  Why are you so concerned about what he spends money on?   Maybe his goal is one of altruism rather than profit after witnessing a woke, censorious mob with their itchy fingers on the ban buttons going to town on what has become a de-facto method of sharing news/opinions, so much so they were even influencing elections.   

 

Bankruptcy of Twitter will affect Musk no more than myself losing a single baht would, but as far as I can tell it is not about to go bankrupt anytime soon.  Twitter has been losing money for the best part of a decade (1.14 billion in 2019, 214 million in 2021).   How long do you think it would take you to turn around that kind of deficit to be profitable?  Would you have kept on all the staff that were not making any meaningful contribution or would you maybe trim off some of the fat?  Would you continue to spend $400m a year on food in the office that no-one turned up to?  Any other tips you can share with Musk to make it turn a profit more quickly?  

Do you think Musk reviewed the job descriptions and performance reports on all of the thousands of people he fired?  If not, how does he know he only fired the non-performers?

[heybruce]

32 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Elon Musk said he would make his own smartphone if Google and Apple were to ban Twitter from their app stores. 

 

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3750849-elon-musk-says-he-would-make-his-own-smart-phone-if-app-stores-ban-twitter/

I don't think Apple and Google/Alphabet are terribly worried about this.

[OneMoreFarang]

53 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

You should put personal dislikes aside and tell Mr Musk what he should be doing in regards to running Twitter

Hire someone who knows what he is doing.

Or not firing people who worked there for many years and have a good understanding what is going on.

I think that would be a good start.

[ukrules]

3 hours ago, heybruce said:

I don't think Apple and Google/Alphabet are terribly worried about this.

Not yet

[ozimoron]

24 minutes ago, ukrules said:

Not yet

He's all bluster and no substance, there's no chance he'll get a phone off the ground.

 

Where would be manufacture it? US or China? At what cost? The US has just banned sale of chips to China. China does not make CPU chips.

 

Where will he get the chips from? There's a wordwide shortage already.

 

Where would he market the phone outside of red states in the US? Who would be his main customers? People who hate Google and Apple? They hardly exist.

 

He has to build an operating system from scratch without infringing any patents held by Apple or Google, good luck with that.

 

There are two major players in the phone business, Apple and Samsung. Others have failed to gain much market share and some have failed.

 

Even if he gained a 10% world market share which would be optimistic, that still leaves 90% of phones which can't / won't carry his Twitter app.

 

 

Edited November 26, 2022 by ozimoron

[ukrules]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

He's all bluster and no substance, there's no chance he'll get a phone off the ground.

 

Where would be manufacture it? US or China? At what cost? The US has just banned sale of chips to China. China does not make CPU chips

I think it's quite obvious how he would approach the issue.

 

He would buy another company which is already doing it and rebrand.

 

That's what he does and always has.

 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, ukrules said:

I think it's quite obvious how he would approach the issue.

 

He would buy another company which is already doing it and rebrand.

 

That's what he does and always has.

 

Those other phones use the Android operating system. That won't work for him.

[Tug]

Hey ya gotta enjoy watching the space Karen sweat it out ehh lmao and just because you are rich and are surrounded by yes men does not make you right 

[ozimoron]

As fears grow over misinformation spreading on the social media platform owned by the world's richest man, the official account of the Republican National Committee was called out for posting a fake George Washington quote on Saturday.

 

The @GOP Twitter account posted a meme featuring a picture of the first president, a quotation mark, and a quote they attributed to Washington reading, "it will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it."

 

CNN investigative correspondent Andrew Kaczynski reported, "according to Mount Vernon, this quote is fake and George Washington never said it."

 

https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-twitter-2658786044/

[James105]

9 hours ago, heybruce said:

Do you think Musk reviewed the job descriptions and performance reports on all of the thousands of people he fired?  If not, how does he know he only fired the non-performers?

1.  I don't think you get to the stage where you are worth $282bn without being quite good at hiring the right people.

2. I don't think someone who just bought a company for $44bn will be reading a single one of those performance reports himself.   Which brings us right back to point number 1.  

[SunnyinBangrak]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

As fears grow over misinformation spreading on the social media platform owned by the world's richest man, the official account of the Republican National Committee was called out for posting a fake George Washington quote on Saturday.

 

The @GOP Twitter account posted a meme featuring a picture of the first president, a quotation mark, and a quote they attributed to Washington reading, "it will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it."

 

CNN investigative correspondent Andrew Kaczynski reported, "according to Mount Vernon, this quote is fake and George Washington never said it."

 

https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-twitter-2658786044/

As has been repeatedly pointed out to you, there are no "fears about misinformation". The fear is losing control of the (normally false) narratives benefitting the democrat party. And it is true. Musk will make Twitter a level playing field, rules must be applied to by BOTH sides. Not the normal for social media pre Musk for sure.

 None of the advertisers raised concerns over the censorship and fallout of Twitter falsely calling Hunter's laptop Russian Disinformation. They didn't even cry foul when the biden regime went full-on 1984 and tried to install conspiracy theorist Nina Jankowicz in a regime controlled Ministry of "Truth" to control what can or can not be said on the internet(she was a notorious laptop denier and pushed the conspiracy theory that Hunter's laptop was Russian Disinformation - it wasn't). If such jaw dropping acts of fascism, disinformation and pure malice didn't get the big companies running ads to raise flags of concern, then nothing will. Nothing short of losing control of a narrative that is.

 Twitter has become a much more vibrant and interesting place now that everybody is welcome to play. I had to laugh looking at the WHite house's twitter account. Before when you read comments under a post they were Oh best President ever, ahh such a lovely family etc. Now you'd have to scroll past hundreds of non toadying comments to find one pro regime post. Twitter just got real.

[James105]

 

10 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Hire someone who knows what he is doing.

Or not firing people who worked there for many years and have a good understanding what is going on.

I think that would be a good start.

You think Musk got to be as wealthy as he is without being able to hire the right people?   So your advice to Musk (for a company that is losing money every year) would be to keep the same staff responsible for that deficit and not change anything.  Brilliant.   Do you charge for these pearls of wisdom or do you just give them away for free?

[Chomper Higgot]

13 hours ago, rabas said:

Google should not know who I am if I am not signed in. What location are you searching from? I am in Thailand.

 

EDIT: Yes my mistake, I got the last name wrong. Wonder why Duckduckgo found it so easily?

You are lucky, you don’t seem to have an IP address.

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

As has been repeatedly pointed out to you, there are no "fears about misinformation". The fear is losing control of the (normally false) narratives benefitting the democrat party. And it is true. Musk will make Twitter a level playing field, rules must be applied to by BOTH sides. Not the normal for social media pre Musk for sure.

 None of the advertisers raised concerns over the censorship and fallout of Twitter falsely calling Hunter's laptop Russian Disinformation. They didn't even cry foul when the biden regime went full-on 1984 and tried to install conspiracy theorist Nina Jankowicz in a regime controlled Ministry of "Truth" to control what can or can not be said on the internet(she was a notorious laptop denier and pushed the conspiracy theory that Hunter's laptop was Russian Disinformation - it wasn't). If such jaw dropping acts of fascism, disinformation and pure malice didn't get the big companies running ads to raise flags of concern, then nothing will. Nothing short of losing control of a narrative that is.

 Twitter has become a much more vibrant and interesting place now that everybody is welcome to play. I had to laugh looking at the WHite house's twitter account. Before when you read comments under a post they were Oh best President ever, ahh such a lovely family etc. Now you'd have to scroll past hundreds of non toadying comments to find one pro regime post. Twitter just got real.

As has been repeatedly pointed out to you, there are no "fears about misinformation". The fear is losing control of the (normally false) narratives benefitting the democrat party.

 

How do you know? You've already seen the statements by some of the larger outlets that used to advertise on twitter. The smaller ones also expressing the same caution. Here's direct feedback from one of the smaller companies that used to have a spend of $750k per month on twitter advertising. He decided to stay for a couple of weeks when Elon took over as he thought with half the big players having stopped he would get more exposure. He was wrong and has now pulled the plug.

 

I told my team to pause our $750K/month Twitter ads budget last week

- Performance fell significantly. CPMs didn’t drop but our engagement went way down, maybe it’s a shift in users on the platform, maybe it’s ad serving related.
- Serious brand safety issues, our organic social and CS teams got dozens of screenshots of our ads next to awful content, replies to our posts with hardcore antisemitism and adult spam remained up for days even when flagged.

- Ads UI is very buggy and login with SSO and 2FA broken, one of my campaign managers logged in last week and found all our paused creatives from the past 6 years had been reactivated, campaign changes don’t save, these things cost us real money.

https://www.teamblind.com/post/i-told-my-team-to-pause-our-750kmonth-twitter-ads-budget-last-week-4dnbo1Ft

[ballpoint]

9 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Those other phones use the Android operating system. That won't work for him.

Maybe he could buy Huawei.