Thai man dead, had "genitals ripped apart" in Pit Bull attack - owner says he's had enough of his pets

[Brickbat]

Last week , 2 dogs killed a meter reader ( Elec ) in Australia.  Within a week the dogs were put down. 
what rationale is it to “ find a new home” for dogs that kill ? 

[jaiyen]

  On 12/16/2022 at 3:21 AM, jvs said:

I believe you are wrong,breeding has a lot to do with it.

Some dogs will bite others will not.

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Chihuahuas are extremely vicious when they have pups. Glad they are small but they are a hunting dog too if you look it up about them.

[racket]

These dogs needs to be 100% depopulated, just like the dinosaurs. Make a museum for losers who cry out load for these cutie pies, and we are done. 

[jaiyen]

  On 12/16/2022 at 2:12 AM, JoePai said:

They need putting down - NOW !

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Or sell them to the Vietnamese ! They would soon sort out the vicious dog problem.

[Spock]

  On 12/16/2022 at 7:33 AM, IvorBiggun2 said:

You don't know much about Buddhists do you?

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Yes I do!!! When I lived in Thailand, I had 4 rabbits given to me by a departing foreigner. The little boy from next door picked one up by its back legs and dislocated them. The vet I took it to refused to euthanise it and figured it could happily slither around like a snail. Buddhism was the excuse for not doing the humane thing. A street dog got into the yard and took care of the problem. I am well aware of the Buddhist attitude to euthanasia but cannot believe it would apply in the circumstances of this incident. Similarly Buddhists are against neutering dogs but are happy to dump unwanted puppies and kittens in pagodas. Buddhism in my experience has severe limitations as a viable way of life. 

[Archie Baker]

  On 12/16/2022 at 2:23 AM, jak2002003 said:

Yes, what the heck is thar statement even mean for....like would it have been better if it had killed one or two people before... Jeeze. 

 

I can't undersrand people's attitudes here.  How can the guys family say the owner is a good man?  How can people in the village not be angry and want justice?  They are Co tent to just live in fear! 

 

How can the guy get away with no consequences... Only paying for the funeral? 

 

And even above all this, he can the dogs not be put to sleep... They are giving them a new home!  Who in their right mind would want to keep them now? 

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The person who wrote this report needs to go back to school.  Dogs need an injection and the owner needs to be castrated and say a thousand wais

[khunpa]

  On 12/16/2022 at 2:06 AM, webfact said:

He was angry but their neighbor, the owner, was a good man who would take care of the funeral cost.

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Ohh well… it’s all good then… 

[IvorBiggun2]

  On 12/16/2022 at 7:49 AM, Spock said:

Buddhists are against neutering dogs

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No they are NOT.

 

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spaying/neutering is intended as an act of kindness, not only to prevent more suffering, but to try to bring a balance back to an environment that is being lost to overpopulation.

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https://ar-cambodia.com/animal-sterilization-from-a-buddhist-perspective/

[Harveyboy]

  On 12/16/2022 at 2:12 AM, JoePai said:

They need putting down - NOW !

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Yes.

[BusyB]

''... usually they were mild mannered .... this was the first time they'd killed someone ...''

 

I think they almost killled irony as well.

[DjSilver]

Come pn, if a dog bites any human it needs to be a law thay says the dog needs yo be killed.

 

For everyone's safety that is the law in Sweden.

[Harveyboy]

  On 12/16/2022 at 8:05 AM, khunpa said:

Ohh well… it’s all good then… 

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not killed anyone before Whoopee..so he's fed up with them now ..just giving them away as if nothing happened ..3 bullets 3 dogs job done 

[Harveyboy]

  On 12/16/2022 at 8:20 AM, DjSilver said:

Come pn, if a dog bites any human it needs to be a law thay says the dog needs yo be killed.

 

For everyone's safety that is the law in Sweden.

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in most civilised county it is .But this backwoods place has not yet reached being civilised when it comes to its stupid laws 

[placnx]

  On 12/16/2022 at 2:23 AM, jak2002003 said:

Yes, what the heck is thar statement even mean for....like would it have been better if it had killed one or two people before... Jeeze. 

 

I can't undersrand people's attitudes here.  How can the guys family say the owner is a good man?  How can people in the village not be angry and want justice?  They are Co tent to just live in fear! 

 

How can the guy get away with no consequences... Only paying for the funeral? 

 

And even above all this, he can the dogs not be put to sleep... They are giving them a new home!  Who in their right mind would want to keep them now? 

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The owner of the dogs should go to jail.

[ThaiFelix]

  On 12/16/2022 at 4:23 AM, JonnyF said:

I would argue it is the cross breeding that creates issues.

 

Purebred "dog fighting" dogs are very human friendly, they were bred to fight other dogs and human aggression was an undesirable trait. It's when you cross breed them with breeds such as Mastiffs (which have been used as war dogs to fight humans, or to protect property from humans) that you end up with the strength and tenacity of the "PitBull" and the human aggression/size of the Mastiff (not picking on Mastiffs here, could be other breeds as well). This is why you end up with "huge Pitbulls" which aren't actually "Pitbulls" at all.

 

When such a dog attacks, it is labelled a "PitBull" attack, when in fact it is essentially a mongrel or a cross breed. If you broke down the figures, I'd bet a huge proportion of these "PitBull" attacks are not a specific breed such as the American PitBull Terrier or the Staffordshire Bull Terrier but a mix of various breeds, some of which may have been bred for human aggression.

 

This is why breed specific legislation is such a nonsense. The label "PitBull" is vastly misused. The dog in the OP is a good example. Clearly a mix (I'd guess a Mastiff/American Bulldog mix) but labelled a PitBull.

 

Hence all the uneducated posts on this thread screaming for a ban on PitBulls.

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Crossbreeding.  You may have something there.  Dont know about dogs in this regard, but I know in the cattle industry if you take two purebreds of different breeds you get a thing called "hybrid vigor".  The result is bigger stronger animals but when it comes to bulls you need to keep right out of the way...they are crazy mad.

 

Something else that stands out in this case is that the victim was 'different", he had "some minor mental health issues".  Dogs notice things like this and it makes them uneasy.  I had a workmate who had a limp and the soi dogs gave him hell going to work everyday but ignored the rest of us.  We have 2 mentally challenged guys in our village and you can always tell when they are out and about because all the dogs go berzerk barking.  Im not excusing the dogs but its just another reason why powerful dogs should not be allowed to roam free.

 

The dogs' owner should have the book thrown at him.  There is an old saying. "One dog is one dog, two dogs is five".  Three dogs allowed to run free together is a disaster waiting to happen.  They become a marauding pack who edge each other on and are super difficult to control.  He knew that in fact he all but admitted it.  And dont forget the very recent publicity over dog attacks.  He should be held responsible and knows it but tries to play the benevolent victim.

 

I agree that breed specific legislation is useless.  Any dog large enough is a menace in the wrong owners hands.  Years ago in Australia when Dobermans, Rottweilers and German Shepherds were a status symbol there was a spate of attacks and there were calls to ban those breeds.....until the head surgeon of the local Childrens' hospital released data showing the biggest culprit was the lowly Labrador.... believe it or not!

 

Lastly I have a very strong belief, after having dogs all my life,  that there arent any bad dogs.....only bad owners!

[dallen52]

Should be a banned breed.

 

Then again, some owners should have signs around thier necks..

'Not for breeding purposes '

(The owners that is)

[thailand49]

makes my blood boil everytime something happens like this dogs lovers say " make good pets " 

????

[connda]

  On 12/16/2022 at 2:06 AM, webfact said:

He was angry but their neighbor, the owner, was a good man who would take care of the funeral cost.

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Really.  How about you come to my house and we have my dogs have a go at you.

This is the problem in Thailand.  "I'll cover your funeral costs."
The dog needs to be shot and the owner jailed and fined in civil court.

If that happened to my wife or kid?  I'd cover the owner's and the dog's funeral expenses.

[IvorBiggun2]

  On 12/16/2022 at 8:20 AM, DjSilver said:

For everyone's safety that is the law in Sweden.

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I can't find reference to that.

[IAMHERE]

  On 12/16/2022 at 3:04 AM, Letseng said:

Pitbulls or any other dog are what the owner wants them to be. No dog is vicious by nature. When dogs get taunted by ppl/kids they turn vicious. 

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So, you claim the victim was taunting the dogs. I can hardly believe what people write. The dogs attacked and killed a guy coming home with candles to eat dinner by. 

[Spock]

  On 12/16/2022 at 8:16 AM, IvorBiggun2 said:

No they are NOT.

 

https://ar-cambodia.com/animal-sterilization-from-a-buddhist-perspective/

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Well you tell that to the monks in many of the pagodas who need to be convinced that the dogs in their care need neutering. Takes time to persuade many of them. 

[IvorBiggun2]

If Pit Bull breeds are dangerous then why are they so popular around the world?

 

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Dogs labeled as "pitbulls" are by far the most popular "strong breed" dogs in the U.S. 

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https://www.pitbullinfo.org/pit-bulls-population.html

[Spock]

  On 12/16/2022 at 8:33 AM, IvorBiggun2 said:

If Pit Bull breeds are dangerous then why are they so popular around the world?

 

https://www.pitbullinfo.org/pit-bulls-population.html

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They should not be allowed in countries like Thailand and Cambodia where they are status symbols owned by people without a clue how to train, socialise or house the animals. Countries where there are no consequences in the event the dog maims or kills people, such as in this instance. 

[oobar]

  On 12/16/2022 at 8:24 AM, ThaiFelix said:

"One dog is one dog, two dogs is five".  Three dogs allowed to run free together is a disaster waiting to happen.  They become a marauding pack who edge each other on and are super difficult to control. 

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Absolutely true!

[shackleton]

Dogs in the street are bad enough but Pit Bull terriers ????

Give me a break

If controlled and secured by their owners okay this is for the Dog lovers

If they attack people should be put down and their owners fined or jailed depending on the seriousness of people's injuries plus expenses paid to the injured party 

 

[BestB]

First and the strangest ever is pitbuls ripping genital's Pitbuls normally go for the neck, 

Second, according to sister in law, victim had mental issues and screaming was not out of the ordinary so much that she did not even dare to go out side when she heard the screams, which only means he was also violent or unpredictable?

 

So the question is , what did really happen for the dogs to attack him and rip apart his manhood instead of his neck or the rest of the body?

 

PS, Most dogs, and in my experience especially Pitbuls have a sense when they come across mentally sick people and normally try to attack them, perhaps sensing possible danger? Most dogs also do not take well towards drunks, people on drugs or ones who sniff glue 

 

As for the idiot owner, with his idiotic excuse door was left open, with 3 male pitbuls should ensure doors do not get left open and dogs have no way to get out

 

I have 3 pitbuls and mine miraculously never manage to get out in over 10 years, but then again, i do have a brain and pay attention instead of being a careless idiot 

[IvorBiggun2]

  On 12/16/2022 at 8:37 AM, Spock said:

They should not be allowed in countries like Thailand and Cambodia where they are status symbols owned by people without a clue how to train, socialise or house the animals. Countries where there are no consequences in the event the dog maims or kills people, such as in this instance. 

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But that doesn't answer my question. Why are Pit Bulls so popular around the world if they're considered a danger to humans?

[NeoDinosaw]

  On 12/16/2022 at 7:22 AM, IvorBiggun2 said:

But the 'Pit Bull' is not a breed in it's own right. So how will they define which breed it is. DNA?

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yes - obviously they will look at its jeans

[NorthernRyland]

  On 12/16/2022 at 2:06 AM, webfact said:

"No one is daring to go out now," she said. 

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This reminds me of how Thai's walk around in THEIR villages with sticks to fend off dogs. I'm sorry, who really is the master in this relationship?

[IvorBiggun2]

  On 12/16/2022 at 8:47 AM, NorthernRyland said:

This reminds me of how Thai's walk around in THEIR villages with sticks to fend off dogs. I'm sorry, who really is the master in this relationship?

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But each of those stick carrying villagers will have a soi dog of their own back home. Soi dogs are basically burglar alarms and are seen as an acceptable hinderance in village life.