Sir Tom Jones' hit, Delilah, has been banned !

[save the frogs]

26 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It's not a song about "killing females", it's a fictional song lyric about one (fictional)  crime of passion. 

Singing about a fictional situation is no different than it being written about in novels that are read by millions and no one is complaining about those.

After Macbeth commits murder, Shakespeare explores his torment. That's art.

He's done something serious. It need to be explored deeply.

 

This song almost sounds upbeat. I would never have guessed what the song about until Asean Now brought it to my attention.

There's no remorse. The emotions of the song don't match the actions. 

There are no emotions. He sings all his songs with exactly the same pitch and tone.

It's tasteless, poor quality, bad, crappy art.

Go ahead and keep listening to crappy art..

We won't judge you ... oh I mean, we will judge you. 

P.S. The singer in the other band has a horrible singing voice ... dressed like idiots ... talentless bunch of clowns. 

 

[sungod]

1000s of women around the world throwing their panties at him didn't seem to mind.........

[Liverpool Lou]

4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

It's tasteless, poor quality, bad, crappy art.

Go ahead and keep listening to crappy art..

We won't judge you ... oh I mean, we will judge you. 

 

All that is just your opinion.  And some would say that it is a "tasteless, poor quality, bad, crappy" opinion, but you are entitled to it.

[Liverpool Lou]

8 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

After Macbeth commits murder, Shakespeare explores his torment. That's art.

He's done something serious. It need to be explored deeply.

A historical setting but fiction.

[OneMoreFarang]

A Principality Stadium spokesperson said: “Delilah will not feature on the playlist for choirs for rugby internationals at Principality Stadium.

 

I don't know if I am more surprised that there is a choir or an official playlist for that choir. Amazing! 

[robblok]

2 hours ago, mania said:

Ah the woke crew on steroids again ????

If you say so violence against woman is on the rise we don't need songs to make it even worse. And guess what its not just muslims its a lot of white guys too. Now i liked this song but never really thought about it. Violence against woman should be curbed at whatever cost.

[StayinThailand2much]

Yes, let's ban anything fun and enjoyable, don sackcloth and ashes, and walk around with a face like just having bitten on a lemon...

[StayinThailand2much]

24 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

After Macbeth commits murder, Shakespeare explores his torment. That's art.

He's done something serious. It need to be explored deeply.

Macbeth will probably be banned soon too...

[roo860]

27 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Can't say I'm a fan of the song, but banning it is ridiculous.

 

They'll be banning "Sweaty Betty" by The Macc Lads next... ????

No Sheep till Buxton, another classic.

[blackshadow]

1 hour ago, Denim said:

It's not unusual.

good one !!!!!

[robblok]

29 minutes ago, robblok said:

If you say so violence against woman is on the rise we don't need songs to make it even worse. And guess what its not just muslims its a lot of white guys too. Now i liked this song but never really thought about it. Violence against woman should be curbed at whatever cost.

Actually, i recall that. I mean this is the same thing as movies and computer games. Has not shown to make people more violent. There are always idiots who do so. But its scaring how many woman get killed by BF's even in my country.

[Mac Mickmanus]

25 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Yes, let's ban anything fun and enjoyable, don sackcloth and ashes, and walk around with a face like just having bitten on a lemon...

The good old days of murdering your girlfriend and stabbing her to death  because she found someone else are behind us .

   That may have been enjoyable for previous generations , but thats frowned upon these days  

[Mac Mickmanus]

34 minutes ago, robblok said:

If you say so violence against woman is on the rise we don't need songs to make it even worse. And guess what its not just muslims its a lot of white guys too. Now i liked this song but never really thought about it. Violence against woman should be curbed at whatever cost.

Really no need to bring race and Religion into the equation 

[robblok]

5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Really no need to bring race and Religion into the equation 

I brought it up because some people believe its not white guys doing it just immigrants and unfornuately that is not true. A Dutch Celebrity took his gf and put her head between the car door and closed it (forcefully). 

 

Then you got a group of guys that think woman are property and you can hit them if they cheat (not in my book)

 

I just dont know what would change these opinions, but songs, games and vids would not make normal people do it. 

 

However in Thailand they say all the violence in Lakorn is making people act that way. I wonder how true it is because after I watch a movie or play a game i never get murder needs.

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, robblok said:

I brought it up because some people believe its not white guys doing it just immigrants and unfornuately that is not true. A Dutch Celebrity took his gf and put her head between the car door and closed it (forcefully). 

 

Do give it a rest about "White guys and immigrants "

This thread is about a song not being sung and its nothing to do with White guys or immigrants 

 

[toofarnorth]

I wonder when the All Blacks play they play Black Betty.

[robblok]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Do give it a rest about "White guys and immigrants "

This thread is about a song not being sung and its nothing to do with White guys or immigrants 

 

Its about a song that promotes violence against woman or at least justifies it.  

[sungod]

1 minute ago, toofarnorth said:

I wonder when the All Blacks play they play Black Betty.

Good point, offensive name that- should be the 'all coloured'

 

They do that scary dance too..........

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, robblok said:

Its about a song that promotes violence against woman or at least justifies it.  

Yes, nothing specifically to do with white guys or immigrants

 

[bendejo]

38 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Macbeth will probably be banned soon too...

Macbeth killed a king.  Though race is not referenced the presumption is the king is a white man.  The play will be declared safe for consumption.

Othello was a black man betrayed by his (again, presumably white) servant.  Uh-oh.

Romeo & Juliet?  It's just a matter of time.

 

 

[herfiehandbag]

3 minutes ago, robblok said:

Its about a song that promotes violence against woman or at least justifies it.  

Rubbish. It is a ballad, a song which tells a story. It neither promotes nor justifies violence

Against women! One might as well argue that the lyric "as they come to break down to he door" promotes needless vandalism against houses!

 

 

[herfiehandbag]

1 minute ago, bendejo said:

Macbeth killed a king.  Though race is not referenced the presumption is the king is a white man.  The play will be declared safe for consumption.

Othello was a black man betrayed by his (again, presumably white) servant.  Uh-oh.

Romeo & Juliet?  It's just a matter of time.

 

 

Macbeth portrays witches in an unfavorable light. Such rampant whipping up of phobia against those who view spirituality through unconventional mediums should not and cannot be tolerated in our society.

[proton]

28 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Really no need to bring race and Religion into the equation 

what about his song sex bomb, that could be offensive to terrorists ????

[Eleftheros]

Quite right. Get rid of this awful song and instead play tasteful rap lyrics from the likes of 50 Cent and Esham.

 

"I used to love her, too bad I had to put a slug through her/Dumped her body in the trash like I never knew her/Blood runnin down the gutter into the sewer ..."

 

After all, 'Delilah' has only been around without problems for over 50 years.

 

 

[SatEng]

3 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Rubbish. It is a ballad, a song which tells a story. It neither promotes nor justifies violence

Against women! One might as well argue that the lyric "as they come to break down to he door" promotes needless vandalism against houses!

 

 

While you may be correct, it is still a fact that it is a song which contains violent themes and imagery against women including stalking, actual bodily harm and perhaps murder.

In the UK the police are using such songs and lyrics prevalent in "drill music" to either claim breach of parole conditions or arrest performers, as well as requesting that social media delete this material

Met monitoring song lyrics of rap artist it tried to censor on Instagram | Police | The Guardian

 

whatever your views on whether such inciteful lyrics and songs should be allowed or not, the law should be administered even-handedly and if you are going to target rap artists you should also be targeting Sir Tom Jones for Delilah, Foster the People for Pumped up Kicks etc.

 

[herfiehandbag]

2 hours ago, TorquayFan said:

That brilliant fun song, "Baby its cold outside', has also had a hard time from the 'woke' crowd in recent years. Apparently Chief Musical Drip of the USA, John Legend, has recorded a rewritten sanitised version which I won't link!

 

My favourite version - Tom Jones in trouble again . . . it's fun, remember?

 

 

'Bloody freezing in' it' LOL

 

https://www.nme.com/news/music/more-us-radio-stations-are-banning-baby-its-cold-outside-2417681

 

 

 

 

 

Oh Ceri Mathews! I knew a Welsh girl once - that accent sends a tingle up the spine!

 

Back to the topic, I am less than convinced that any of the knife wielding youth who infest some of our inner cities have ever heard of Sir Tom Jones, let alone listen to his music. Do these "woke" protagonists have any idea frankly how silly they make themselves look?

[bendejo]

5 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Macbeth portrays witches in an unfavorable light.

I know you mean this sarcastically, but in certain places, like Berkeley, California (in the San Francisco area) I would not be at all surprised to hear of a serious effort regarding this. 

 

 

[herfiehandbag]

3 minutes ago, SatEng said:

While you may be correct, it is still a fact that it is a song which contains violent themes and imagery against women including stalking, actual bodily harm and perhaps murder.

In the UK the police are using such songs and lyrics prevalent in "drill music" to either claim breach of parole conditions or arrest performers, as well as requesting that social media delete this material

Met monitoring song lyrics of rap artist it tried to censor on Instagram | Police | The Guardian

 

whatever your views on whether such inciteful lyrics and songs should be allowed or not, the law should be administered even-handedly and if you are going to target rap artists you should also be targeting Sir Tom Jones for Delilah, Foster the People for Pumped up Kicks etc.

 

If the law ( in the shape of the Metropolitan Police) is targeting rap songs on social media as grounds for denying bail or cancelling parole then it is an ass. Just as much of an ass as trying to prevent Tom Jones's "Delilah" on the grounds that it promotes or celebrates violence against women. Utter ass!

[bendejo]

8 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

Quite right. Get rid of this awful song and instead play tasteful rap lyrics from the likes of 50 Cent and Esham.

 

"I used to love her, too bad I had to put a slug through her/Dumped her body in the trash like I never knew her/Blood runnin down the gutter into the sewer ..."

 

After all, 'Delilah' has only been around without problems for over 50 years.

 

 

Hey, get a copyright on this!  You'll may never have money worries again.

But be sure to use the word "b*tch" several times.

 

 

[robblok]

16 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Rubbish. It is a ballad, a song which tells a story. It neither promotes nor justifies violence

Against women! One might as well argue that the lyric "as they come to break down to he door" promotes needless vandalism against houses!

 

 

Many will disagree, it does portrait violence against woman. And in the past these things were accepted. You still see it here on this forum of people defending unfaithful spouses getting hit or worse. 

 

Im not sure where i stand, I do believe that muziek influences culture and culture influences murders. But at the other hand not everyone who listens to something like this is an idiot and thinks its ok.

 

Like so many things its perfectly ok for some people while dangerous for others who think its normal. 

 

I never got into a murderous rage after killing some Germans in VR but some people have linked computer games to violence too.