Immigration Officers Charged Over Illegal Visa Malfeasance

[foreverlomsak]

35 minutes ago, foreverlomsak said:

If that's the account you select then you will get 0% return.

Have mine in a standard savings account, while 0.5% (4,000 THB) is not good, it's way better than my UK account which is ZERO%

forgot I also need to keep a minimum balance in my UK account of 2,500 GBP (100,000 BHT).

[foreverlomsak]

32 minutes ago, brianburi said:

my agent assures me everything is just fine.

would he say anything else, he wants your money

[yeahbutif]

The main topic seems to be about money in the bank visa agent... But the thing I can't seem to understand is when you die who gets the 800.000 ? If no will .as I understand it seems difficult for family and Thai wife to even get it... I think this is done so people forget about it and the money goes to government or bank.... 

[digger70]

13 hours ago, Xanthe said:

If people can't meet the financial requirements or they don't to put 800K baht in a Thai bank, agents are there to facilitate the process. What is wrong with that? It helps lots of people. 

Every thing wrong with that. In my book it's Illegal. 

If it's Legal than No one need the Funds in the bank and it'll be Sweet ,Right 

if it's OK for one than it should be OK for Everyone .

[SuperSilverHaze]

13 hours ago, Xanthe said:

If people can't meet the financial requirements or they don't to put 800K baht in a Thai bank, agents are there to facilitate the process. What is wrong with that? It helps lots of people. 

Because it's illegal?

 

Bet you're one of them

[Neeranam]

17 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Maybe it's time that agents were also done away with and the requirements made easier for those expats who have problems meeting the money in the bank requirements 

Indeed, these agents and the corrupt foreigners are directly responsible for those requirements getting more difficult to meet. 

[jerrymahoney]

36 minutes ago, yeahbutif said:

The main topic seems to be about money in the bank visa agent...

But don't forget as per Police Order it is either 3 OR 4:

 

Edited February 8, 2023 by jerrymahoney

[Neeranam]

50 minutes ago, yeahbutif said:

The main topic seems to be about money in the bank visa agent... But the thing I can't seem to understand is when you die who gets the 800.000 ? If no will .as I understand it seems difficult for family and Thai wife to even get it... I think this is done so people forget about it and the money goes to government or bank.... 

If any pensioner has 800k in the bank with no will, then they obviously can afford to lose it. 

[brianburi]

1 hour ago, foreverlomsak said:

would he say anything else, he wants your money

its a she, but, but.   Looker too.....

[transam]

6 hours ago, TheFishman1 said:

Every single immigration office in this country takes bribes take money. It’s never gonna end they can build the largest inactive building they want. I’ll never shut that down. Why?  TIT

Do you have a "link" for that assertion......

[transam]

5 hours ago, hotchilli said:

I kind of agree, dodgy agents handling visa applications when really the applicant should be at the immigration office in person.

Agents have made a good living by charging exorbitant fees form applicants to smooth the way with bent officials. 

Get rid of agents.

This is from the "I'm alright, Jack" brigade.......

[transam]

2 hours ago, proton said:

800k is hardly flush, if you don't have that and are living so precariously you should probably go home before you become a burden. Anyone can get interest on the 800k

Oh my, another who can't think outside his own cash box.....

How can a farang become a burden to LOS........................?  

[ignore it]

2 hours ago, foreverlomsak said:

If that's the account you select then you will get 0% return.

Have mine in a standard savings account, while 0.5% (4,000 THB) is not good, it's way better than my UK account which is ZERO%

Yes Sir,

Point taken, but to some folks 4000THB is essentially zero. Today the day range on the THB/USD is 0.195 THB or essentially THB 4,625.00.  on 800K.

Edited February 8, 2023 by ignore it

[ignore it]

2 hours ago, proton said:

800k is hardly flush, if you don't have that and are living so precariously you should probably go home before you become a burden. Anyone can get interest on the 800k

Proton, Agree 100%.  Anyone who uses an agent for lack of funds really shouldn't be here. I can understand agent use for convenience.   BTW. Looking for substantive returns here.  Interested in interesting interest.  Like anything on the plus side of inflation, as little risk as possible. Pls send your tips by PM.  Thx in advance.

Edited February 8, 2023 by ignore it

[zzzzz]

6 hours ago, hotchilli said:

I kind of agree, dodgy agents handling visa applications when really the applicant should be at the immigration office in person.

Agents have made a good living by charging exorbitant fees form applicants to smooth the way with bent officials. 

Get rid of agents.

its NOT just the agent that benefits, i'd be willing to bet the Immigration office makes a higher % of the fee 

 

Its called Baksheesh 

[xylophone]

36 minutes ago, zzzzz said:

its NOT just the agent that benefits, i'd be willing to bet the Immigration office makes a higher % of the fee 

 

Its called Baksheesh 

No bet needed on that, as my good mate here had a problem renewing his retirement extension, mainly because he had put his 800+ K in a deposit account and the immigration guy wouldn't accept it, and because my mate thought he had made a mistake with other paperwork, he tried a second time and it was refused again with some strong words from the I/O.

 

He didn't want to lose out because he has lived here for over 15 years, so he approached an agent and she wanted to 23,000 baht for the privilege of getting him his extension. So he met her just outside of the office with the 23,000 in cash, and she took 3000 and put it in her pocket and put remaining 20,000 in an envelope with the passport on top, walked up to the immigration officer and planted it in front of him and within a short period of time it was all stamped and good.

 

Now here's the rub.......that I/O was the same one who had refused my mate in the previous two instances.

 

So yes, the I/Os benefit "Bigly"!!!!

[NoshowJones]

3 hours ago, foreverlomsak said:

would he say anything else, he wants your money

That applies to everyone. in any country, in any profession, no exceptions.

[NoshowJones]

2 hours ago, digger70 said:

Every thing wrong with that. In my book it's Illegal. 

If it's Legal than No one need the Funds in the bank and it'll be Sweet ,Right 

if it's OK for one than it should be OK for Everyone .

"Every thing wrong with that. In my book it's Illegal."

Well in my book it isn't, and my book is what I go by. 

[NoshowJones]

2 hours ago, SuperSilverHaze said:

Because it's illegal?

 

Bet you're one of them

So what if he is? Just because something is illegal, it does not always mean that it is right.

[hotchilli]

1 hour ago, transam said:

This is from the "I'm alright, Jack" brigade.......

Which I am most certainly am not.

You can't chastise the Immigration officers on one hand, then condone dodgy agents helping people to gain visa applications on the other.

I have nothing against IO doing their job, and nothing against agents doing their job.

I am against the bent ones.

 

[NoshowJones]

7 hours ago, hotchilli said:

I kind of agree, dodgy agents handling visa applications when really the applicant should be at the immigration office in person.

Agents have made a good living by charging exorbitant fees form applicants to smooth the way with bent officials. 

Get rid of agents.

I normally agree with everything you say Hotchilli, but not this time. If you have been reading recent posts about people's money in Thai banks, you will see what I mean.

I can afford to put the required money in a Thai bank, but use an agent instead, because like the soldiers government in this unstable country, Thai banks just cannot be trusted.

The latest case being the 16 year old girl whose bank lost her 500,000Bt deposit.

[jerrymahoney]

If some people can choose to live their lives rationalizing that paying a bribe is ok, I no longer let it bother me.

 

I remember years back, saying that I had just come back from Bangkok to get a US Embassy income letter, and some guy smugly saying "Oh I just pay an agent" and, not saying a word, but getting up and leaving with a thanks to my host.

Edited February 8, 2023 by jerrymahoney

[proton]

2 hours ago, transam said:

Oh my, another who can't think outside his own cash box.....

How can a farang become a burden to LOS........................?  

When they cant fund medical bills and have to ponce off friends and family, as well as strangers, case on here recently

[jonclark]

12 minutes ago, proton said:

When they cant fund medical bills and have to ponce off friends and family, as well as strangers, case on here recently

Proton - A bit of perspective please. Millions of tourists and foreign visitors here every year and a only few hundred get into financial difficulties with lack of, or poor insurance that doesn't cover their medical claims. Do we focus on the few or the many? 

 

I know (and I am sure other members will understand the sentiment) my Thai family here (and my Thai friends) turn to me when they have financial difficulties and I am happy to help, its what family and friends do for each other.

 

Unless of course you feel that Thai families shouldn't "ponce" off the falang in the family and it's every man for themselves?  

Edited February 8, 2023 by jonclark

[NextG]

5 hours ago, proton said:

Only the ones doing things illegally 

Oooh… not you ???? 
Just think….not so long ago, cannabis was not legal. Now it is. 
Leave people to live their lives if they are not harming anyone and learn to live your own. 
 

[NextG]

22 minutes ago, proton said:

When they cant fund medical bills and have to ponce off friends and family, as well as strangers, case on here recently

You really need to calm down. The are so many scenarios outside your little box. But you don’t care about that. You just want to rant. There is good reason as to why there is flexibility in the system. If you don’t understand why at your age, it’s not likely that you ever will. 

[jerrymahoney]

19 minutes ago, NextG said:

There is good reason as to why there is flexibility in the system.

If it all were on the up-&-up, there would be a FLEXIBILITY window at your local immigration office and you would pay your 15.,000 baht or so and get a receipt for your extension.

 

No need for setting up a plausible deniability scenario.

Edited February 8, 2023 by jerrymahoney

[transam]

54 minutes ago, proton said:

When they cant fund medical bills and have to ponce off friends and family, as well as strangers, case on here recently

The "Go home" brigade, how tiresome..............

[proton]

11 minutes ago, transam said:

The "Go home" brigade, how tiresome..............

Not as tiresome of the irresponsible begging on gofundme for medical treatment or flights back home

[transam]

1 minute ago, proton said:

Not as tiresome of the irresponsible begging on gofundme for medical treatment or flights back home

So what, none of your business, plus, I reckon most ageing expats here can no way get affordable insurance, and you want them to all "go home', just in case the family has to help out..........................