BREAKING Biden arrives in Kyiv

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Berkshire said:

MTG has no interest in governing or solving America's problems.  She has no solutions.  All she ever does is attack the POTUS and the Dems.  That's what she does.  That's ALL she does. 

She's even worse than that. Yesterday she called for secession of the red states from the blue  The south shall rise again redox.

[mackayae]

Simple solution. Putin should visit Luhansk.

[Hummin]

15 hours ago, Tug said:

That’s my president walking the walk and DOING WHAT MAKES AMERICA GREAT he makes me proud to be an American standing up for American ideals slava Ukraine ???????? 

Have to say Impressive, and wonder which previous presidents who would have done the same!

 

No matter his old big long balls, still time to retire Mr President, your prime time was as an Wise President!

[Hummin]

42 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Like it or not Biden is running again and as the incumbent won't be facing any serious opposition for the nomination, if any.

And it is sad there is no future replacement. Harris? Who is that, and what have she done?

[Jingthing]

13 minutes ago, mackayae said:

Simple solution. Putin should visit Luhansk.

He would never.

[Jingthing]

8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Have to say Impressive, and wonder which previous presidents who would have done the same!

 

No matter his old big long balls, still time to retire Mr President, your prime time was as an Wise President!

Dream on. 

[superal]

2 hours ago, Scott said:

Biden’s Ukraine visit upstages Putin and leaves Moscow’s military pundits raging

 

President Joe Biden’s surprise visit to Ukraine sparked anger and embarrassment among many of Russia’s hawkish military pundits on Monday, increasing pressure on Vladimir Putin as the Russian leader prepares to justify his stuttering invasion in a national address.

Biden’s historic visit came days before the one-year anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, providing a symbolic boost to Kyiv at a crucial juncture in the conflict.

But the visit caused fury in Russian pro-military and ultranationalist circles, as it upstages Putin on the eve of a major address in which the Russian president is expected to tout the supposed achievements of what he euphemistically calls a “special military operation.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/20/europe/russia-reaction-biden-ukraine-visit-intl/index.html

Bidens visit has triggered a visit to Russia by China president XI .  There is speculation that China may supply arms to Russia , despite a previous refusal . Some reasoning is that China tried to be the peace maker but Zelensky did not want to know .  If the Chinese do supply weapons to Russia , that will start another cold war and heighten the tensions between the U.S.A. , Russia & China . I am not sure when the XI visit is scheduled for as it was announced early today . Looks like the war may not end any time soon and defeat for Putin has severe consequences for the world . 

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

And it is sad there is no future replacement. Harris? Who is that, and what have she done?

Harris can run in 28 if she wants. That will be an open contest.

Her resume is well known but she has been an unpopular vice president.

Presidential elections aren't usually decided based on the VP.

[Jingthing]

Just now, superal said:

Bidens visit has triggered a visit to Russia by China president XI .  There is speculation that China may supply arms to Russia , despite a previous refusal . Some reasoning is that China tried to be the peace maker but Zelensky did not want to know .  If the Chinese do supply weapons to Russia , that will start another cold war and heighten the tensions between the U.S.A. , Russia & China . I am not sure when the XI visit is scheduled for as it was announced early today . Looks like the war may not end any time soon and defeat for Putin has severe consequences for the world . 

Victory for Putin is much worse.

[Adumbration]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Victory for Putin is much worse.

No winners here....none...

 

....the fruits of victory would be ashes in our mouth...

 

As I predicted months ago in my posts, all of the off ramps toward a non nuclear resolution have now been removed by Nato and the US.

 

Turning point will be in May.

 

If the Ukraine forces, with help from the west, seek to retake Crimea or push past the Donbass region and into Russian territory nuclear exchange is a given.

 

 

Edited February 21, 2023 by Adumbration

[Hummin]

3 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

No winners here....none...

 

....the fruits of victory would be ashes in our mouth...

 

As I predicted months ago in my posts, all of the off ramps toward a non nuclear resolution have now been removed by Nato and the US.

 

 

Nato and allies have chosen to stop Putin, and hopefully we succeed better by that, than eliminating Taliban in Afghanistan. Most is actually up to Russians to stop Putin, but I'm sure we have to convince that is a smart move to do! In the meantime it is ha

Heavy weapon support, body counts, fictional propaganda mix with the truth, as well Prime ministers and presidents continue showing up Kiyv physically to show support! 

 

News says Belarus is Putins target, and if victory in Ukraine, it would have been a walk over at convince Belarus to give up.

[Adumbration]

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Nato and allies have chosen to stop Putin, and hopefully we succeed better by that, than eliminating Taliban in Afghanistan. Most is actually up to Russians to stop Putin, but I'm sure we have to convince that is a smart move to do! In the meantime it is ha

Heavy weapon support, body counts, fictional propaganda mix with the truth, as well Prime ministers and presidents continue showing up Kiyv physically to show support! 

 

News says Belarus is Putins target, and if victory in Ukraine, it would have been a walk over at convince Belarus to give up.

Putin already controls Belarus.  If he takes Ukraine his next target will be Moldova.

[Jingthing]

Those ginning up Putin's nuclear bluffs are playing right into his evil hands.

[Hummin]

13 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

Putin already controls Belarus.  If he takes Ukraine his next target will be Moldova.

Belarus President (dictator) Alexander Lukashenko is Putin friendly as former Ukrain government was before trown over. A big difference since the majority of his people is not. Only 7,5 % is Russians in Belarus. 

Edited February 21, 2023 by Hummin

[ozimoron]

2 hours ago, xylophone said:

I am not American, however I do support the Democrats, because I have absolutely no time for the Republicans and their lies and political manoeuvrings, not to mention their previous lying presidential incumbent.

 

Much as I want the Dems to succeed in all they do, I was a little saddened to see this old man Biden shuffling around the place and occasionally stumbling with his words, and as for a "motivational speaker", well he doesn't cut the mustard in that regard, sad to say.

 

I sincerely hope the Dems have someone new "up their sleeve" to contest the next election, although Joe might get in at a pinch, but touch and go IMO.
 

He's pretty good for a person who has had a lifelong speech impediment and had to receive intensive therapy as a young person.

 

 

1 hour ago, superal said:

Bidens visit has triggered a visit to Russia by China president XI .  There is speculation that China may supply arms to Russia , despite a previous refusal . Some reasoning is that China tried to be the peace maker but Zelensky did not want to know .  If the Chinese do supply weapons to Russia , that will start another cold war and heighten the tensions between the U.S.A. , Russia & China . I am not sure when the XI visit is scheduled for as it was announced early today . Looks like the war may not end any time soon and defeat for Putin has severe consequences for the world . 

Xi will not be so stupid. He's gone there to persuade Putin to accept a political settlement acceptable to the west. China's trade is minuscule compare to that with the US and western allies against Russia.

 

39 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

No winners here....none...

 

....the fruits of victory would be ashes in our mouth...

 

As I predicted months ago in my posts, all of the off ramps toward a non nuclear resolution have now been removed by Nato and the US.

 

Turning point will be in May.

 

If the Ukraine forces, with help from the west, seek to retake Crimea or push past the Donbass region and into Russian territory nuclear exchange is a given.

 

 

China has warned Russia never to do this, so has India. Putin will only do this if he knows his number is up and the grim reaper has arrived at his door. At that time his Generals will off him. Russia wants to be a world player, not an ash tray. The mantra that the west should surrender to Russia because he might press the red button is getting tired now.

[billd766]

16 hours ago, JerseytoBKK said:

While I didn't vote for him, I'm EXTREMELY IMPRESSED  by what he just did.

 

Now please send 100+ F-16s and lots more Abrams.

However training pilots, support crews and tank crews cannot be done overnight.

[Hummin]

Just now, billd766 said:

However training pilots, support crews and tank crews cannot be done overnight.

Or the logistics, meaning heavy involvement from Nato Personell 

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, billd766 said:

However training pilots, support crews and tank crews cannot be done overnight.

The British are training Ukrainian F16 pilots and Germany is training Ukrainian Leopard tank crews as we speak.

 

source: links previously posted in other threads.

[billd766]

13 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) slammed President Joe Biden's visit to Ukraine Monday, on the eve of the anniversary of Russia's invasion, as “incredibly insulting."

 

“Today on our President’s Day, Joe Biden, the President of the United States chose Ukraine over America, while forcing the American people to pay for

Ukraine’s government and war,” Greene tweeted. “I cannot express how much Americans hate Joe Biden.”

 

https://www.rawstory.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-2659441985/

Incredibly insulting to who exactly?

 

I cannot express how much I dislike feeble minded GOP members like MTG assuming that they speak for the whole of the American people.

 

They only blurt out what they think themselves.

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

The British are training Ukrainian F16 pilots and Germany is training Ukrainian Leopard tank crews as we speak.

 

source: links previously posted in other threads.

Service and maintenance in Poland?

[ozimoron]

Just now, Hummin said:

Service and maintenance in Poland?

That would make sense and in no way violates the NATO direct involvement in the war policy.

[billd766]

3 hours ago, Berkshire said:

MTG has no interest in governing or solving America's problems.  She has no solutions.  All she ever does is attack the POTUS and the Dems.  That's what she does.  That's ALL she does. 

And not very successfully either.

 

IMO she is little but a very noisy laughing stock.

[ozimoron]

Greene blasted for 'parroting Kremlin talking points' after Biden visits Kyiv

 

https://www.rawstory.com/greene-blasted-for-parroting-kremlin-talking-points-after-biden-visits-kyiv/

[vandeventer]

18 hours ago, Tug said:

That’s my president walking the walk and DOING WHAT MAKES AMERICA GREAT he makes me proud to be an American standing up for American ideals slava Ukraine ???????? 

Don't you think he should stand up for Americans first? Just an idea, as the southern border is being over run and a big increase in the northern border of illegal's. Some bad chemical train wrecks and the homeless numbers are increasing daily.

[ozimoron]

3 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Don't you think he should stand up for Americans first? Just an idea, as the southern border is being over run and a big increase in the northern border of illegal's. Some bad chemical train wrecks and the homeless numbers are increasing daily.

He is. No country should reject foreign policy involvement. America fought to keep Europe free from invaders in WW2 and this war continues that proud tradition.

[bendejo]

21 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Don't you think he should stand up for Americans first? Just an idea, as the southern border is being over run and a big increase in the northern border of illegal's. Some bad chemical train wrecks and the homeless numbers are increasing daily.

Contact him and tell him what it is you want him to do. 

 

 

[Hummin]

31 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Don't you think he should stand up for Americans first? Just an idea, as the southern border is being over run and a big increase in the northern border of illegal's. Some bad chemical train wrecks and the homeless numbers are increasing daily.

We supported your war on terror? We are trading with you even we do not agree with everything. No Europeen support, No Usa as Nr 1

 

Thank god you have leaders who understands simple things like that

[Phoenix Rising]

35 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Don't you think he should stand up for Americans first? Just an idea, as the southern border is being over run and a big increase in the northern border of illegal's. Some bad chemical train wrecks and the homeless numbers are increasing daily.

So a President can't do two (or more) things at once? You must remember that we're not talking about trump here. President Biden is a real leader, not a carnival barker - bigly different.

Edited February 21, 2023 by Phoenix Rising

[ozimoron]

This visit is all about China.

 

Biden to rally allies as Ukraine war gets more complicated

 

“I thought it was critical that there not be any doubt, none whatsoever, about U.S. support for Ukraine in the war,” Biden said as he stood with Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelenskyy in Kyiv before departing for Poland.

 

The administration on Sunday revealed it has new intelligence suggesting that China, which has remained on the sidelines of the conflict, is now considering sending Moscow lethal aid. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said it could become a “serious problem” if Beijing follows through.

 

Sen. Lindsay Graham, R-S.C. “Putin won’t stop in Ukraine.

 

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-biden-kyiv-politics-united-states-government-5dc78c468ca866733ab7dff8651d8535?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_01

 

 

[sqwakvfr]

19 hours ago, Tug said:

That’s my president walking the walk and DOING WHAT MAKES AMERICA GREAT he makes me proud to be an American standing up for American ideals slava Ukraine ???????? 

It is great but so far the following leaders have already visited Kyiv after the Russian Invation:

1. Boris Johnson(no longer in office)

2. Macron

3. Mario Draghi(no longer in office)

’4. Joannis of Romania

5. Trudeau

Also, the leaders of the following countries have also visited Kyiv:  Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia. Latvia and even Joko Widodo of Indonesia visited Zelenskky before Biden. 

 

“Better late than never”.