5 hours ago, ozimoron said:

If you can't say it you can't even mention it. You present it as fact and don't substantiate your claim. You absolutely know that's against the rules.

Its against rules to go off topic and you have gone off topic by mentioning O.J Simson .

   So, you follow the rules and prove your claim that O.J Simpson committed murder by providing a link , or don't you have to follow the rules ?

6 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Rittenhouse is a little scumbag that literally got away with murder and he deserves to be behind bars for a long time.

Sooner or later Lady Karma will pay him a visit (as in the case of O.J. Simpson) and he'll end up where he belongs.

Kyle and O.J were both found "NOT GUILTY of murder , which means they didn't commit murder .

   Neither of those cases were a miscarriage of justice , because it was ruled that Kyle acted in self defence  and a person with smaller hands committed the O.J murder , (the murder he was accused of) 

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

They were part of the same group that were chasing Rittenhouse.  How intimate they were, I have no idea.  They were fellow travellers and rioters that night, that is for sure. 

 

Is it even that important? He chased and pointed a gun at RIttenhouse.  Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.

So, no. Just another false claim.

18 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Its against rules to go off topic and you have gone off topic by mentioning O.J Simson .

   So, you follow the rules and prove your claim that O.J Simpson committed murder by providing a link , or don't you have to follow the rules ?

I thought you mentioned OJ Simpson before the poster you quote...

3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Kyle and O.J were both found "NOT GUILTY of murder , which means they didn't commit murder .

Well, that's obviously incorrect. Having been found not guilty doesn't mean the defendant is innocent.

If you need this spelled out for you the I have kindly provided a link for your further education:

 

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/question-civil-judgment-versus-criminal-conviction-28300.html

1 minute ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Well, that's obviously incorrect. Having been found not guilty doesn't mean the defendant is innocent.

If you need this spelled out for you the I have kindly provided a link for your further education:

 

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/question-civil-judgment-versus-criminal-conviction-28300.html

In this case it does because the legal system found that Kyle acted in self defence and therefore he isn't a murderer and there's  been no civil judgement against Kyle .

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

In this case it does because the legal system found that Kyle acted in self defence and therefore he isn't a murderer and there's  been no civil judgement against Kyle .

Let me correct the last part of you post: ...there's  been no civil judgement against Kyle YET.

 

Civil rights lawsuit against Kyle Rittenhouse can proceed, judge rules

 

Kyle Rittenhouse evading attorneys in civil lawsuit, they say

16 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I thought you mentioned OJ Simpson before the poster you quote...

Yep, while I'm often guilty of reflexively replying to off topic quotes I didn't deflect to OJ Simpson.

7 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Let me correct the last part of you post: ...there's  been no civil judgement against Kyle YET.

 

Civil rights lawsuit against Kyle Rittenhouse can proceed, judge rules

 

Kyle Rittenhouse evading attorneys in civil lawsuit, they say

That just doesnt make any sense 

Saying something that  hasn't happened "YET" , ISNT showing that it has or will happened ,

   You are not correcting me by stating it may (or may not) happen in the future .

  Also , the accusation of the civil lawsuit is that Kyle conspired with the police , rather than for actual murder

44 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Kyle and O.J were both found "NOT GUILTY of murder , which means they didn't commit murder .

   Neither of those cases were a miscarriage of justice , because it was ruled that Kyle acted in self defence  and a person with smaller hands committed the O.J murder , (the murder he was accused of) 

 

8 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

That just doesnt make any sense 

Saying something that  hasn't happened "YET" , ISNT showing that it has or will happened ,

   You are not correcting me by stating it may (or may not) happen in the future .

  Also , the accusation of the civil lawsuit is that Kyle conspired with the police , rather than for actual murder

Doesn't matter at all, your earlier post is incorrect.

9 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

That just doesnt make any sense 

Saying something that  hasn't happened "YET" , ISNT showing that it has or will happened ,

   You are not correcting me by stating it may (or may not) happen in the future .

  Also , the accusation of the civil lawsuit is that Kyle conspired with the police , rather than for actual murder

It's a wrongful death suit.

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

 

Doesn't matter at all, your earlier post is incorrect.

Well , it would be extremely nice of you to point out which part of my post was incorrect , rather than keeping it to yourself 

20 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Well , it would be extremely nice of you to point out which part of my post was incorrect , rather than keeping it to yourself 

Why do you insist on asking about the obvious?

1 minute ago, mikebike said:

Yeah THIS. Just like Vlad had to invade Ukraine to stop NATO, eh? 

Kyle Rittenhouse going to a car lot to stop arsonists from burning it down in the USA is comparable to Russia waging war in the Ukraine to stop NATO ?

   Let me think about that for a while . 

14 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

IMHO it is the duty of every good citizen to protect their communities. Waiting for the police is no protection at all.

Cool. So in your community you have 100% defunded the police and private citizens are now doing their job. Good for you. How's that working out anyway? 

Off topic post removed

1 hour ago, mikebike said:

Cool. So in your community you have 100% defunded the police and private citizens are now doing their job. Good for you. How's that working out anyway? 

Of course not.  Don't straw man my argument.  Vigilant citizens are a great way to supplement regular and well trained police. But neither is 100% the answer.

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

So, no. Just another false claim.

Actually, the false claim is your earlier assertion that the Kenosha protests were due to the police killing of a black man. That is 100% untrue.   

18 hours ago, ozimoron said:

He still went there with a deliberate intention to foment trouble with black protesters. Unfortunately for him (and them) it was white protesters who challenged him.

 

5 hours ago, ozimoron said:

So, no. Just another false claim.

The two claims that you made in the initial post are false claims .

   You seem to be trying to turn it into a racial issue by making false claims .

   Kyle didn't go to Kenosha to foment trouble with Black people and it wasn't (just) White protestors who challenged him , if you remember , it wasn't a White man that first kicked him down to the ground , it was an unidentified Black man .

   You are trying to turn the issue into a race issue , like you have done in this instance , with myself having to state peoples colour to contest your false points 

4 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Actually, the false claim is your earlier assertion that the Kenosha protests were due to the police killing of a black man. That is 100% untrue.   

Jacob Blake, a 29-year-old Black man, was left partly paralyzed after a white police officer shot him seven times in the back outside an apartment complex in Kenosha, Wis., on Aug. 23, 2020.

The shooting, which happened in front of three of Mr. Blake’s children, was captured by a neighbor in a video that circulated widely and rapidly on social media. Outrage spread quickly, rekindling the nationwide protests for racial justice that had followed the deaths of George Floyd, Elijah McClain, Breonna Taylor and other Black Americans after encounters with the police.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/article/jacob-blake-shooting-kenosha.html

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

 

The two claims that you made in the initial post are false claims .

   You seem to be trying to turn it into a racial issue by making false claims .

   Kyle didn't go to Kenosha to foment trouble with Black people and it wasn't (just) White protestors who challenged him , if you remember , it wasn't a White man that first kicked him down to the ground , it was an unidentified Black man .

   You are trying to turn the issue into a race issue , like you have done in this instance , with myself having to state peoples colour to contest your false points 

The protesters weren't only black or white. Rittenhouse' motive was racist. He went there to confront BLM arsonists.

Just now, ozimoron said:

The protesters weren't only black or white. Rittenhouse' motive was racist. He went there to confront BLM arsonists.

His reason for going there was to stop arsonists from burning down a car lot , arsonists of any colour .

  The reason for his attending was to stop arsonists , nothing to do with the race of the potential arsonists 

   He was arsonistist ,anti arsonist , he wasn't  racist

All too American.

 

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

His reason for going there was to stop arsonists from burning down a car lot , arsonists of any colour .

  The reason for his attending was to stop arsonists , nothing to do with the race of the potential arsonists 

   He was arsonistist ,anti arsonist , he wasn't  racist

He wasn't racist but he associated with racists and participated in a group racist hand sign.

5 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

He wasn't racist but he associated with racists and participated in a group racist hand sign.

Kyle claims that he was set up for that photo by a former attorney and he didn't know that the guys in the bar were members of any group and he didn't know the meaning of the OK sign and his former attorney set the photo up 

3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Kyle claims that he was set up for that photo by a former attorney and he didn't know that the guys in the bar were members of any group and he didn't know the meaning of the OK sign and his former attorney set the photo up 

Was he also setup a week later when he was met at Miami airport by the leader of the Proud Boys and had lunch with them? Set up by a photographer is a pathetic excuse. He's in a group photo with proud boys all flashing the secret racist hand signal. Apparently it was only a secret to Rittenhouse.

 

He was complaining about being caught in the act.

Just now, ozimoron said:

Was he also setup a week later when he was met at Miami airport by the leader of the Proud Boys and had lunch with them? Set up by a photographer is a pathetic excuse. He's in a group photo with proud boys all flashing the secret racist hand signal. Apparently it was only a secret to Rittenhouse.

The leader of the Proud boys ?

This guy ?

Enrique Tarrio leader of the Proud boys ?

Kyle is racist because he had lunch with the person in the photo ?

 

 

 

He is what he is karma will catch up with him sooner or later 

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

The leader of the Proud boys ?

This guy ?

Enrique Tarrio leader of the Proud boys ?

Kyle is racist because he had lunch with the person in the photo ?

Tarrio is not a leader of the proud boys?

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

Tarrio is not a leader of the proud boys?

He is, he is the Chairman of the group