Brake failure: Thirteen tourists heading for religious festival hurt

[webfact]

Daily News Thai Caption: Accident on pilgrimage

 

Thirteen tourists heading for a religious event to make merit in Chanthaburi province, eastern Thailand, were injured yesterday when their vehicle ran into a roadside wall.

 

The verdict of the accident was brake failure.

 

The mechanic said there was proper maintenance but a review is underway.

 

Victims were all taken to the local hospital. Five were allowed home the more seriously hurt were transferred to other area hospitals, reported Daily News.

 

The governor of the province promised every assistance to the victims.

 

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[Geoffggi]

5 minutes ago, webfact said:

The verdict of the accident was brake failure.

Brake or Driver failure? ....................

[2baht]

16 minutes ago, webfact said:

Thirteen tourists heading for a religious event to make merit

I wonder if affects their faith?

[mania]

Thailand has the worlds worst brakes

[Tarteso]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

brake failure.

They meant Brain failure, as ussual.

[markclover]

Pray harder.

[orchis]

micro nap

[ikke1959]

brake failure?? It was the first time they have stopped or used the brakes??? and never a problem, but now an accident it is suddenly failure of the brakes.... Very strange and unbelievable

[stoner]

1 hour ago, Tarteso said:

They meant Brain failure, as ussual.

generally when commenting on someone's intelligence you may want to....awww forget it.

[actonion]

Thailand the  hub of brake failures, or is it failure to brake,  better is  brain failures more like , count the police in on this too they believe all  this  stupidity

[BananaStrong]

Most dangerous roads.

brake failure means no accountability 

never use public transportation 

walk is safer

thanks for experiencing LOS

come again 

in a tank

[Tropicalevo]

Strangely enough, brake failure does happen. I am not saying that is the case here but.....

I had a new car back in the late '80's when ABS was relatively new.

The car would handle a 'strange' way now and again (not often) when I was braking.

I took it to the garage a number of times and every time they said 'nothing wrong with the brakes'.

One morning, driving down a steep hill and I had to brake hard. The car spun round and it ended upside down in a ditch.

Garage collected the car, repaired it and then phoned me up to complain.

'Why didn't you tell us that there was a problem with the brakes - we just took it for a test drive and crashed!'.

Duh!

They finally found the problem. One side of the car's ABS would seize up now and again.

 

I never drove it again - changed it for a different make.

[swm59nj]

They better start doing random checks on vehicles.  For some reason Thailand seems to have a good many vehicles with bad brakes. 

[stoner]

brake failure is a total legit thing....the issue is how it happens. in most cases there is a fairly good reason. 

[transam]

If it were a Toyota mini bus, I or anyone should dismiss the brake failure thingy.....

[Will B Good]

8 hours ago, 2baht said:

I wonder if affects their faith?

NEVER....they will claim their faith saved them all from dying.

Edited March 15, 2023 by Will B Good

[digger70]

12 hours ago, Geoffggi said:

Brake or Driver failure? ....................

Brain Failure.

[The Theory]

13 hours ago, webfact said:

The verdict of the accident was brake failure.

Or failure to brake ?!!! ????

[gomangosteen]

A very poor and misleading OP; the vehicle was 'off-road' and fortunately veered into a bank rather than a significant drop-off down the mountainside, heading to Wat Khao Prabat (Khao Khitchakut National Park, Chanthaburi) a temple which is open 8 weeks per year; transport is by 4WD pickup on a steep clay track.

Visitors are limited to 24,500 per day over this timeframe, buses leave from Bangkok Bus Terminal (Chatuchak) at 8.00pm aiming to arrive around midnight followed by a 4WD trip to the midway point, shrine/worship there then on the second stage, followed by a 1.5km walk for the ideal sunrise views however vehicles and people arrive 24hrs a day.

There are approx 100 4WDs in operation.

 

Pic from Matichon News

 

 

We've been but chose a daytime trip, and quite an adventure it was.

This from a travel blog:

While the traffic runs from the left side in Thailand, the rules are completely different on the road up to Khao Phra Bat mountain.
Along the 5 km long road up to the top, the traffic shifts to both left or right before the sharp bends so that the vehicles driving up can easily turn the bends.
The left/right shift happens along the longer and straight stretches, signposted well.
Both driving up and down happens at relatively high speed, so, it is very “exciting” and at the same time a bit scary to see how cars suddenly change left/right while meeting cars driving in the opposite direction.

 

 

Edited March 15, 2023 by gomangosteen

[Dan O]

13 hours ago, stoner said:

brake failure is a total legit thing....the issue is how it happens. in most cases there is a fairly good reason. 

Yeah, in thailand its usually a result of not pressing the brake pedal 

[Damrongsak]

13 hours ago, transam said:

If it were a Toyota mini bus, I or anyone should dismiss the brake failure thingy.....

Because they never brake?  Full speed ahead!

 

[stoner]

4 hours ago, Dan O said:

Yeah, in thailand its usually a result of not pressing the brake pedal 

its a little more complicated.

[Dan O]

38 minutes ago, stoner said:

its a little more complicated.

Not really,  when that excuse is thrown out without proof or even inspection first and its done repeatedly . While brakes can fail its rare, brakes just don't fail with that type of frequency. 

[huangnon]

Somchai the driver just on the <deleted>-end of a 14 hour shift.. Hilarity ensues.

[stoner]

4 hours ago, Dan O said:

Not really,  when that excuse is thrown out without proof or even inspection first and its done repeatedly . While brakes can fail its rare, brakes just don't fail with that type of frequency. 

ok 

 

1 somchai with little to no driving ability or training

2 somchai with truck that is not maintained

3 somchai driving like a lunatic

4 somchai with a truck overloaded to totally unsafe levels

5 somchai truck not able to carry that weight as per manufacturer handbook

6 somchai

7 somchai

8 somcahi

 

almost all of these points are addressed in one way or another in most western countries. 

 

point is there are very legit reasons why the brakes fail so often on somchais journey. to you and me these things are common sense. to somchai....well you know. 

 

anyways of course the brakes are going to fail when you are barreling down the highway with an overloaded truck with poor maintained brakes and a vegetable behind the wheel. then another idiot pulls out to make a you turn and you have no choice (because you can't drive or make critical decisions) but to slam on your pathetically maintained brakes and they simply fail due to you having 3 tones of extra cargo in your truck. 

 

i could probably give dozens of scenarios like that that happen quite frequently here. 

 

so yes.  its a very legit thing for thailand when you factor all of those things in. 

 

in no way am i justifying any of it. i am simply stating facts. 

[Dan O]

4 hours ago, stoner said:

ok 

 

1 somchai with little to no driving ability or training

2 somchai with truck that is not maintained

3 somchai driving like a lunatic

4 somchai with a truck overloaded to totally unsafe levels

5 somchai truck not able to carry that weight as per manufacturer handbook

6 somchai

7 somchai

8 somcahi

 

almost all of these points are addressed in one way or another in most western countries. 

 

point is there are very legit reasons why the brakes fail so often on somchais journey. to you and me these things are common sense. to somchai....well you know. 

 

anyways of course the brakes are going to fail when you are barreling down the highway with an overloaded truck with poor maintained brakes and a vegetable behind the wheel. then another idiot pulls out to make a you turn and you have no choice (because you can't drive or make critical decisions) but to slam on your pathetically maintained brakes and they simply fail due to you having 3 tones of extra cargo in your truck. 

 

i could probably give dozens of scenarios like that that happen quite frequently here. 

 

so yes.  its a very legit thing for thailand when you factor all of those things in. 

 

in no way am i justifying any of it. i am simply stating facts. 

All those quoted issues are not brake failure. Poor judgment and poor judgement isn't brake failure. Certainly dangerous acts cause accidents but thats a whole different issue

[stoner]

55 minutes ago, Dan O said:

All those quoted issues are not brake failure. Poor judgment and poor judgement isn't brake failure. Certainly dangerous acts cause accidents but thats a whole different issue

connect the dots dan. all of those things lead to the huge amount of brake failures that happen here. 

[Dan O]

1 hour ago, stoner said:

connect the dots dan. all of those things lead to the huge amount of brake failures that happen here. 

HAHAHAHA those things cause accidents no doubt but they are the cause and not brake failure. 

[LennyW]

On 3/16/2023 at 3:20 PM, stoner said:

ok 

 

1 somchai with little to no driving ability or training

2 somchai with truck that is not maintained

3 somchai driving like a lunatic

4 somchai with a truck overloaded to totally unsafe levels

5 somchai truck not able to carry that weight as per manufacturer handbook

6 somchai

7 somchai

8 somcahi

 

almost all of these points are addressed in one way or another in most western countries. 

 

point is there are very legit reasons why the brakes fail so often on somchais journey. to you and me these things are common sense. to somchai....well you know. 

 

anyways of course the brakes are going to fail when you are barreling down the highway with an overloaded truck with poor maintained brakes and a vegetable behind the wheel. then another idiot pulls out to make a you turn and you have no choice (because you can't drive or make critical decisions) but to slam on your pathetically maintained brakes and they simply fail due to you having 3 tones of extra cargo in your truck. 

 

i could probably give dozens of scenarios like that that happen quite frequently here. 

 

so yes.  its a very legit thing for thailand when you factor all of those things in. 

 

in no way am i justifying any of it. i am simply stating facts. 

Yet you are clearly oblivious where and in what scenario this happened.....

[LennyW]

On 3/16/2023 at 4:18 AM, gomangosteen said:

A very poor and misleading OP; the vehicle was 'off-road' and fortunately veered into a bank rather than a significant drop-off down the mountainside, heading to Wat Khao Prabat (Khao Khitchakut National Park, Chanthaburi) a temple which is open 8 weeks per year; transport is by 4WD pickup on a steep clay track.

Visitors are limited to 24,500 per day over this timeframe, buses leave from Bangkok Bus Terminal (Chatuchak) at 8.00pm aiming to arrive around midnight followed by a 4WD trip to the midway point, shrine/worship there then on the second stage, followed by a 1.5km walk for the ideal sunrise views however vehicles and people arrive 24hrs a day.

There are approx 100 4WDs in operation.

 

Pic from Matichon News

 

 

We've been but chose a daytime trip, and quite an adventure it was.

This from a travel blog:

While the traffic runs from the left side in Thailand, the rules are completely different on the road up to Khao Phra Bat mountain.
Along the 5 km long road up to the top, the traffic shifts to both left or right before the sharp bends so that the vehicles driving up can easily turn the bends.
The left/right shift happens along the longer and straight stretches, signposted well.
Both driving up and down happens at relatively high speed, so, it is very “exciting” and at the same time a bit scary to see how cars suddenly change left/right while meeting cars driving in the opposite direction.

 

 

Thankyou, hopefully those that are randomly posting without knowing the scenario might now understand.