Shower Too Hot

[Neeranam]

Been trying like crazy to fix the tap at my brother's house where I am staying for a month in Scotland.

The bottom tap must be the temp. control but it doesn't move, well very slightly to the right. It has a nipple that I can press down a little.

 

Any idea how to fix it? I don't want to pay plumbers fees here. 

[sometimewoodworker]

Usually if there is a nipple it is to allow further movement, usually adding extra hot water. But if you are getting minimal movement it is probably unfit for further service without taking it apart or replacing it.

[Woof999]

Thermostatic valve is seized. They typically aren't that expensive if you can find the spare parts, but if your plumbing skills are limited you'll almost certainly be needing a plumber.

[Pmbkk]

 

Man up and call him and ask him !!!

 

I once couldn't get a key out of a car I'd just bought - they didn't tell me there was a button under the steering wheel I needed to press to release the ignition key......

 

Edited April 17, 2023 by Pmbkk

[Kalasin Jo]

555. My shower is too hot here in Thailand! No heater needed. In January it was too cold and of course the water heater died.

[OneMoreFarang]

You ask in a Thai forum. Use the Thai way:

Fill a big bucket with hot water, maybe wait until it is not so hot anymore.

Then take the water with a bowl out of the big bucket and splash it over your body.

It works, without the need of a plumber.

 

[Neeranam]

51 minutes ago, Pmbkk said:

Man up and call him and ask him !!!

What do you mean 'man up'?

[Neeranam]

54 minutes ago, Woof999 said:

Thermostatic valve is seized. They typically aren't that expensive if you can find the spare parts, but if your plumbing skills are limited you'll almost certainly be needing a plumber.

I see, thanks.

[Neeranam]

Out of interest, why are there 'sad' and 'confused' faces on the OP?

[sometimewoodworker]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Out of interest, why are there 'sad' and 'confused' faces on the OP?

To cheap to get work done maybe.

[Neeranam]

5 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

To cheap to get work done maybe.

Oh well, my bad, I thought this was the DIY sub forum. 

I wanted to repay my brother for letting me stay here and fix it myself. 

Never expected rude, cantakerous replies. 

 

[Crossy]

17 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Never expected rude, cantankerous replies. 

 

You've been a member for 19 years ...

 

Anyway, have you asked your brother how it's supposed to work? I would think that the "nipple" is a release to allow the temperature to be adjusted (press and turn). If it's not doing that then something has seized up ???? 

 

Can you get the chrome handle off (Allen key in the hole to the left of the nipple?) to reveal the mechanism? It could just be gummed up and liberal application of WD40 will release. 

[Neeranam]

8 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

You've been a member for 19 years ...

 

Anyway, have you asked your brother how it's supposed to work? I would think that the "nipple" is a release to allow the temperature to be adjusted (press and turn). If it's not doing that then something has seized up ???? 

 

Can you get the chrome handle off (Allen key in the hole to the left of the nipple?) to reveal the mechanism? It could just be gummed up and liberal application of WD40 will release. 

I'll check that. Thanks Cross. 

 

[scorecard]

6 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Out of interest, why are there 'sad' and 'confused' faces on the OP?

Agree.

[bluejets]

9 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Any idea how to fix it? I don't want to pay plumbers fees here. 

Now there is the real problem......... ????

Edited April 17, 2023 by bluejets

[Seth1a2a]

11 hours ago, Neeranam said:

my brother's house

Winter is over.  If all else fails just turn down the thermostat on the actual water heater until you leave . 

This option should be available on either Electric and gas water heaters . 

[geisha]

I must say the small contraptions they have in the UK are ridiculous.. Taking a shower is a major event with water too hot one minute too cold the next and not enough water strength. My elderly family take baths every night. 

[Chongalulu]

11 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

Usually if there is a nipple it is to allow further movement, usually adding extra hot water. But if you are getting minimal movement it is probably unfit for further service without taking it apart or replacing it.

The nipple is a safety feature stopping inadvertent selection of scalding water,but pushing it in allows further movement which by continuous movement back and forth might free up the mechanism 

[Chongalulu]

17 minutes ago, geisha said:

I must say the small contraptions they have in the UK are ridiculous.. Taking a shower is a major event with water too hot one minute too cold the next and not enough water strength. My elderly family take baths every night. 

That is a feature of a poor/cheap  shower choice. Try Aqualisa Quartz (pumped unit) or Mira and you’ll get proper showers. Not cheap but in the long run much  better and cheaper than expensive baths

[KannikaP]

10 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Out of interest, why are there 'sad' and 'confused' faces on the OP?

Maybe because your question is so vague, no make or model number. 

And the fact that you do not want an 'expert' to fix it properly.

Checkatrade.com or similar should get you someone.

[gamb00ler]

10 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Out of interest, why are there 'sad' and 'confused' faces on the OP?

Two of AN's most famous posters dropped by:  Miss Click and Miss Anthrope

[VocalNeal]

51 minutes ago, nchuckle said:

The nipple is a safety feature stopping inadvertent selection of scalding water,but pushing it in allows further movement which by continuous movement back and forth might free up the mechanism 

https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/shower-hot-water-tap-jammed-safety-button-pressed.395957/

[Denim]

There is one cheap fix I always try first and sometimes it performs miracles.

 

Give it a generous spray with WD40 and let that soak in overnight. Might get lucky and fix it for a quid.

[sometimewoodworker]

7 minutes ago, Denim said:

There is one cheap fix I always try first and sometimes it performs miracles.

 

Give it a generous spray with WD40 and let that soak in overnight. Might get lucky and fix it for a quid.

Absolutely it is one of the 2 first fix options 

 

1) if it doesn’t move and should use WD40

2) if it does move and shouldn’t use duct/gaffer tape.

 

These are the fixes for roughly 80% ~ 90% of simple fixes.

[VocalNeal]

15 minutes ago, Denim said:

Give it a generous spray with WD40 and let that soak in overnight. Might get lucky and fix it for a quid.

Take the chrome outside knob off first. If the OP has to buy the WD-40, then buy penetrating fluid.

[KannikaP]

3 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

Take the chrome outside knob off first. If the OP has to buy the WD-40, then buy penetrating fluid.

Are there different types of WD40, penetrating and non-penetrating?

[sandyf]

3 hours ago, Seth1a2a said:

Winter is over.  If all else fails just turn down the thermostat on the actual water heater until you leave . 

This option should be available on either Electric and gas water heaters . 

He is talking about the UK. Most houses have both hot and cold water supplies and quite common on a shower to have a mixer valve which I think is the case here. They normally have a button to prevent inadvertent movement and it is possible the button is a bit stuck and not being depressed enough.

As suggested taking the valve cover off would be good first move.

[VocalNeal]

1 minute ago, KannikaP said:

Are there different types of WD40, penetrating and non-penetrating?

There may well be but generic WD-40 is a water disperser not a lubricant. The penetrating version has not been mentioned beforehand.

[Denim]

48 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

Take the chrome outside knob off first. If the OP has to buy the WD-40, then buy penetrating fluid.

Yes....otherwise it might stain. Normally there will be a small hole to put an Allen key in somewhere to do this . WD 40 should penetrate and lubricate.

[mikecha]

spray WD40 ON IT LET IT GET IN A COUPLE OF HOURE OR SPRAY A COUPLE OF TIMES 

EASE BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS HOPE IT HELPS COS THEN A SMALL PRICE FIX