The US is set to announce a $1.2 billion aid package to Ukraine as early as Tuesday, according to a US official familiar with the package, with Ukraine’s counteroffensive against Russian forces looming.

The package will include drones, artillery ammunition and air defense missiles, the official said, as well as other capabilities.

The package, first reported by The Associated Press, will fall under the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative (USAI), which means it will be contracted and purchased from manufacturers instead of pulled directly from Defense Department stocks in a drawdown. Instead of supplying Ukraine with the weapons it currently needs, USAI packages are intended to create a medium- and long-term supply for Ukraine.

With the new package announcement, the US will have committed $37.6 billion in military aid to Ukraine since the beginning of the Biden administration, including $36.9 billion since the beginning of the war in February 2022.

Good it’s hunting season on orks!just kidding obviously they need ammo to evict the invaders from their country slava Ukraine ???????? 

 

Yes, but where's the money actually coming from?

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3 hours ago, blazes said:

 

Yes, but where's the money actually coming from?

From the roughly 40 billion dollars allocated by Congress to be used by the Biden administration at its discretion.

An interesting strategy given that the US is about to hit it's debt ceiling.

 

Borrow more money (hopefully), then give it away. With fiscal prudence like that, it becomes clear why the US is over 31 trillion in debt.

15 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

An interesting strategy given that the US is about to hit it's debt ceiling.

 

Borrow more money (hopefully), then give it away. With fiscal prudence like that, it becomes clear why the US is over 31 trillion in debt.

Well, believe it or not it is also possible for Congress to raise taxes. Like back where they were before the George Bush giveaway.

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

From the roughly 40 billion dollars allocated by Congress to be used by the Biden administration at its discretion.

So the US Taxpayer?

2 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

So the US Taxpayer?

What about the US Taxpayer? Is the money being spent on Ukraine derived from a different source than other expenditures?

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Well, believe it or not it is also possible for Congress to raise taxes. Like back where they were before the George Bush giveaway.

Tax rises don't tend to win votes. Hence the raising of the debt ceiling in order to give money away to Ukraine.

 

Then when they need to buy long term votes, Biden can just use some of that borrowed money to write off student debt. Nice work, if you can get it.

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Tax rises don't tend to win votes. Hence the raising of the debt ceiling in order to give money away to Ukraine.

 

Then when they need to buy long term votes, Biden can just use some of that borrowed money to write off student debt. Nice work, if you can get it.

Actually, raising taxes on the wealthy is a very popular idea in the USA. Even among Republicans. But the Republican politicos primary clients disapprove.

5 hours ago, blazes said:

 

Yes, but where's the money actually coming from?

US taxpayer, I'm sure they are thrilled?

Just now, Smokey and the Bandit said:

US taxpayer, I'm sure they are thrilled?

Yes

One year on, US support remains strong for Ukraine

One year on, the U.S. public perception of Ukraine also remains strong. According to a recent Gallup poll, 69 percent of surveyed Americans believed that the United States should continue providing aid to Ukraine. In a similar survey conducted by the Chicago Council on Global Relations, nearly three-quarters of Americans believe that the United States should continue to send economic and defense aid to Ukraine. These results suggest that most Americans continue to support Ukraine, and that there is strong backing for this Eastern European state.

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/3945889-one-year-on-us-support-remains-strong-for-ukraine/

My big complaint about US Ukraine policy is out of fear of Putin's threats, we won't announce that we are comited to support Ukraine to WIN the war defined as kicking out Russia of all occupied lands including Crimea.

5 hours ago, blazes said:

 

Yes, but where's the money actually coming from?

From the USA.

 

It's highlighted in the article. 

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Well, that is now north of $100 BILLION poured away on this misbegotten conflict.   Imagine what could have been done in the US with that money- the roads that could be repaired, the children fed, the facilities to help the indigent... but no. Far more important to posture and pose in a useless conflict to support a country that is not at all important.

5 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Well, that is now north of $100 BILLION poured away on this misbegotten conflict.   Imagine what could have been done in the US with that money- the roads that could be repaired, the children fed, the facilities to help the indigent... but no. Far more important to posture and pose in a useless conflict to support a country that is not at all important.

But think of all the opportunities for smug, self congratulatory back slapping at those Champagne dinner parties.

 

You can't put a price on that...

Ukraine has now been given more money than the annual budgets of the following US government departments:

 

Dept of Interior

EPA

State Department

Dept of Justice

 

 

...and 4 TIMES the budget of NASA

4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Ukraine has now been given more money than the annual budgets of the following US government departments:

 

Dept of Interior

EPA

State Department

Dept of Justice

 

 

...and 4 TIMES the budget of NASA

Becauseif the govt hadn't appropriate these funds for Ukraine, then that money would  have gone to these departments instead?

16 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Well, that is now north of $100 BILLION poured away on this misbegotten conflict.   Imagine what could have been done in the US with that money- the roads that could be repaired, the children fed, the facilities to help the indigent... but no. Far more important to posture and pose in a useless conflict to support a country that is not at all important.

Agree! spending to protect another country’s warring efforts!

With no mentioning of negotiations of a peace!

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Becauseif the govt hadn't appropriate these funds for Ukraine, then that money would  have gone to these departments instead?

Of course not. Just highlighting the scale of spending that is being done to prop up the green shirted gremlin.  With a soaring national debt, adding the equivalent of another entire department is madness.  Especially when the money being borrowed is probably coming from communist China.

You can't have peace negotiations with genocidal war criminal Putin.

Slava American taxpayers! 

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Borrow more money (hopefully), then give it away. With fiscal prudence like that, it becomes clear why the US is over 31 trillion in debt.

If Donald Trump had not given tax cuts to the wealthy. If George Bush Jr had not given tax cuts to the wealthy, no on would have a problem, even those who cry crocodile tears about debt. Still, the wealthy must have tax cuts, it is of course, the Republican American way. 

It's funny that American right wingers forget about fiscal conservatism the moment they are in power.

33 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Of course not. Just highlighting the scale of spending that is being done to prop up the green shirted gremlin.  With a soaring national debt, adding the equivalent of another entire department is madness.  Especially when the money being borrowed is probably coming from communist China.

It says a lot about you and nothing about Zelensky that you would call him a green shirted gremlin. But even if you had just used his actual name, your comment would merely have been baseless, instead of baseless and insulting. Are you seriously claiming that Zelensky doesn't have overwhelming support from the Ukrainian people?

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27 minutes ago, placeholder said:

It says a lot about you and nothing about Zelensky that you would call him a green shirted gremlin. But even if you had just used his actual name, your comment would merely have been baseless, instead of baseless and insulting. Are you seriously claiming that Zelensky doesn't have overwhelming support from the Ukrainian people?

Given that Ukraine is really not a free country, and does not have a free press, it is difficult to tell how popular he truly is.  In a war situation, people will naturally support their leader no matter what kind of person he is.  

 

But no matter what, he has no reason at all to try and negotiate a settlement. If he does, the gravy train will stop. It is growing close to $200 billion- this is more than double the yearly defence budget of Russia.  

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

But think of all the opportunities for smug, self congratulatory back slapping at those Champagne dinner parties.

 

You can't put a price on that...

And what price do you put on freedom?