Thai army chief says “coup” should be removed from media’s vocabulary

[tomacht8]

What twisted logic. If the army didn't make coups, the media wouldn't need to use the word either. The distortion of cause and effect does not seem to be clear in his mind.

[animalmagic]

5 hours ago, dinsdale said:

"What the country needs is peace and order, ...."

That can only be provided by our tanks and guns............and submarines!

[n00dle]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

stop reporting speculation about a coup, noting that the word “coup” tends to cause political conflict and should be removed from media’s vocabularies.

Actual coups tend to cause political conflict. Perhaps the army should remove them from their bag o tricks. 

[candide]

4 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

There is a glimmer of hope that the army chief will keep his pledge for no coup after this election. The trouble making 3Ps from the Burapha Payak military factions have been losing influence and power. This new army chief is not from Burapha faction that has dominated the military establishment and politics for the last 2 decades. The junta parties are rejected by the majority of voters and will probably not secured enough seats to form the government.  Some of the appointed senators may not even support them. The new regime will also not wish his reign to begin with unrest and another coup. I will be positive that the EC will apolitical. Finger crossed with a reminder that this is Thailand.

The army has also been put under tighter control.

 

"Bangkok-based diplomats have taken note of the emerging axis within the influential military, the guarantor of political power in the country, under Vajiralongkorn, himself a military veteran of the King's Guard. The monarch set this tone by unveiling plans to redeploy troops in the capital to come under his personal royal security force 904, a well-trained Praetorian Guard of some 7,000 soldiers. Brought under this new security architecture for exclusive royal service are squads from the 1st Infantry Regiment, 11th Infantry Regiment and the 4th Cavalry Battalion -- previously the frontline troops to stage coups."

 

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Turbulent-Thailand/Thailand-king-s-elite-Red-Rim-officers-enter-the-spotlight

[h90]

It is plain nonsense...someone who want to make coup would never admit it.
And there are situations when a coup would be the only right thing to do....say some evil premier want to stage a false flag incident to start a war with Cambodia....Military would than need to remove that wannaby Hitler quickly.

[Kevin Taylor]

I feel your pain sir. Pesky media bringing up the thing your organisation does in this country frequently. Perhaps buy off the media sir, it works in other countries, or perhaps smeer people who use the word coup as racist and far right, that seems to work in other countries. 

[brucegoniners]

Too funny. What does he suggest we call it? Oops, there they go again?

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

noting that the word “coup” tends to cause political conflict and should be removed from media’s vocabularies.

And the military repertoire?

[Unify]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

RTA army chief assures there’ll be ‘no coups on his watch’
by Mitch Connor

 

Royal Thai Army Commander-in-Chief General Narongpan Jittkaewtae.

Royal Thai Army (RTA) Chief General Narongpan Jittkaewtae assured the Thai public yesterday that there would be no coups on his watch, stating that the term should not exist in anyone’s vocabulary. General Narongpan is set to retire on September 30 and provided reassurances in the lead-up to the elections on Sunday. There have been concerns about possible unrest following the polls.

 

When questioned about the potential for future unrest and the military’s response, the Army Chief explained that he was not worried.

“I don’t worry. We have learned many lessons from the past. We have reached a point where democracy has to go ahead. Everyone should be mindful and avoid what should not be done.”

 

In response to inquiries about the possibility of another coup following the elections, General Narongpan urged reporters not to raise such matters, as it could create conflict. He asked that journalists refrain from using the term, and confirmed that the military had removed it from their vocabulary.

 

Full story: https://thethaiger.com/news/national/army-chief-assures-no-coups-during-his-tenure

 

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No coups in his watch. But will there be watches on his coup? 

[BritScot]

Just shows the mental capacity of those incharge. I think Thai Army should be removed from the dictionary and replaced with Mafia Militia or Mafia Heavy Armed wing along with Mafia ocean wing and then the Mafia air wing. Or could call them the 30 minute boys about the amount of time before they surrendered and then joined Japan in ww2.

[loong]

How about

"Anti-democratic armed takeover of the country??

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, candide said:

The army has also been put under tighter control.

 

"Bangkok-based diplomats have taken note of the emerging axis within the influential military, the guarantor of political power in the country, under Vajiralongkorn, himself a military veteran of the King's Guard. The monarch set this tone by unveiling plans to redeploy troops in the capital to come under his personal royal security force 904, a well-trained Praetorian Guard of some 7,000 soldiers. Brought under this new security architecture for exclusive royal service are squads from the 1st Infantry Regiment, 11th Infantry Regiment and the 4th Cavalry Battalion -- previously the frontline troops to stage coups."

 

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Turbulent-Thailand/Thailand-king-s-elite-Red-Rim-officers-enter-the-spotlight

That was a very significant change of command by removing the 2 units out of the chain of command of the Royal Thai Army and into the monarchy. Render the army chief powerless to command these units like in the past for purpose of coups. 

[Deez]

I agree. Should be changed to "Unlawful Overthrow Of Elected Government"    Much clearer

[BusyB]

7 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Well he would say that.....what would he like to call it? I could do with a laugh!

Peace and order maintenance ...

[BusyB]

6 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

Of course he used the word "coup" several times during his lecture.

 

 

This sounds like a threat.

 

 

I don't get why the military is choosing to fight the battle on conscription? Make the military a viable option by encouraging voluntary enlistment with financial and educational incentives. And if you need maids just hire Burmese like every other household.

 

 

 

 

 

What .... you mean actually respect the oiks? And do something to their benefit?

[Cake Monster]

7 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

Special military operation?

Special Military Operation of Political Importance

[ujayujay]

I throw 1 satang into a wishing well

[Srikcir]

7 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

Of course he used the word "coup" several times during his lecture.

 

 

This sounds like a threat.

 

 

I don't get why the military is choosing to fight the battle on conscription? Make the military a viable option by encouraging voluntary enlistment with financial and educational incentives. And if you need maids just hire Burmese like every other household.

 

 

 

 

 

Keep in mind the RTM is politically engaged and has conducted 13 coups after 1932. It behaves as if having super-constitutional authority that permits it to legally violate the Constitution.

As such one facet of civilian (aka electorate) political control might in effect be take hostage of thousands of young men in the form of forced conscription to be able to pressure political "adherence" from their families, friends, associates, etc. 

The RTP has seemingly at times threatened parents and familes of arrested young protesters to make the accused cease anti-military related protests or themselves face "difficulties." So similar pressures might be used consistent with the RTP. Eliminate conscription and lessen inappropriate political pressure on the electorate. So much better to place the RTM completely under civilian control.

 

[klauskunkel]

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Thai army chief says “coup” should be removed from media’s vocabulary

Why? "Coup" is much easier to say than "Illegal overthrow of an elected government by the military"...

[BenStark]

How about, coup should be removed of Thailand's future?

[candide]

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

That was a very significant change of command by removing the 2 units out of the chain of command of the Royal Thai Army and into the monarchy. Render the army chief powerless to command these units like in the past for purpose of coups. 

More significant than most posters seem to realise.

[zzaa09]

2 hours ago, Srikcir said:

Keep in mind the RTM is politically engaged and has conducted 13 coups after 1932. It behaves as if having super-constitutional authority that permits it to legally violate the Constitution.

As such one facet of civilian (aka electorate) political control might in effect be take hostage of thousands of young men in the form of forced conscription to be able to pressure political "adherence" from their families, friends, associates, etc. 

The RTP has seemingly at times threatened parents and familes of arrested young protesters to make the accused cease anti-military related protests or themselves face "difficulties." So similar pressures might be used consistent with the RTP. Eliminate conscription and lessen inappropriate political pressure on the electorate. So much better to place the RTM completely under civilian control.

 

Nice sentiments which most would probably be agreeable with, yet not realistic regarding the understanding of why the assemblage of the military [and para-military associations] exist here - and the single upmost institution in which they take their sole orders from.........in fact, all systems are beholding to the same traditional institution and the reason behind those numerous coups [more than 13, by the way]

 

The obvious and greater paradox that is present defies anything that might resemble a free and open Constitutional Liberal Democracy when most is still ruled over by this single entity - with the usual approval and blessing provisions. 

[kidneyw]

10 hours ago, pegman said:

How many times has the head of the Thai military stated that before a coup?

I remember Prayut was quoted officially three times as saying there would not be a coup before it actually happened.

[Sunderland]

It would be nice if a certain army never resorted to illegal coups. Then the word wouldn't have to be mentioned anyway.

 

Buffoons!

[Enoon]

11 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

There is a glimmer of hope that the army chief will keep his pledge for no coup after this election. The trouble making 3Ps from the Burapha Payak military factions have been losing influence and power. This new army chief is not from Burapha faction that has dominated the military establishment and politics for the last 2 decades. The junta parties are rejected by the majority of voters and will probably not secured enough seats to form the government.  Some of the appointed senators may not even support them. The new regime will also not wish his reign to begin with unrest and another coup. I will be positive that the EC will apolitical. Finger crossed with a reminder that this is Thailand.

The fact that you are hoping for a "factional shift" is an indication of how primitive, tribal, brutal......"undeveloped"........ the machinery and outlook of the Thai State remains.

 

Such a state will not, cannot, be remade......"developed".......peacefully.

 

Everything you see in its tragi-farcical political process is nothing but "Overture" and "Prologue".

 

There is no civil solution.

 

Sooner or later the storm will break.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[zzaa09]

8 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

What twisted logic. If the army didn't make coups, the media wouldn't need to use the word either. The distortion of cause and effect does not seem to be clear in his mind.

The result of a mainstream media that is harnessed by the military and ruling establishment. 

 

[spidermike007]

A message to Army Commander-in-Chief Gen Narongpan Jitkaewtae: Stop your ridiculous army from seizing power, over and over again, and we will stop asking about the possibility of your goons doing it again. 

 

Get it? Or is that too clear a message for your middled minds? 

[ikke1959]

He is right... and if they stage a coup the must be severely punished.. A coup is same treason...But as nobody can have media shares they should removed it themselves as they own everything and don't allow others 

[still kicking]

Well, we can call it special military operation.

[Andycoops]

When he initiates the next coup d'etat then will he instead say we have usurped democracy by taking power illegitimately...

I don't think so