onthedarkside Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 Federal prosecutors overseeing the investigation into former President Donald J. Trump’s handling of classified documents have issued a subpoena for information about Mr. Trump’s business dealings in foreign countries since he took office, according to two people familiar with the matter. It remains unclear precisely what the prosecutors were hoping to find by sending the subpoena to Mr. Trump’s company, the Trump Organization, or when it was issued. But the subpoena suggests that investigators have cast a wider net than previously understood as they scrutinize whether he broke the law in taking sensitive government materials with him upon leaving the White House and then not fully complying with demands for their return. READ MORE https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/22/us/politics/trump-records-foreign-deals.html No paywall archive link 1 1
Popular Post Pink Mist Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 23, 2023 One has to wonder just how many dirty deals he has done the world over. The rich dont just get rich by doing things the right way, they use shell companies and proxies to do the main work. 4 3
bendejo Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Pink Mist said: One has to wonder just how many dirty deals he has done the world over. The rich dont just get rich by doing things the right way, they use shell companies and proxies to do the main work. Behind every great fortune there is a crime. — Balzac (maybe) Actually, it was his father's fortune. 1 1
Popular Post bendejo Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 23, 2023 Well, all of that letting him slide during his term turned into a "give him enough rope" scenario. Did he really think he was going to get away with all this stuff? Treason charges are in the wind. 1 4
Popular Post Berkshire Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 23, 2023 This would be quite an increase in scope if the feds are now looking into Trump's foreign dealings during his Presidency. This could delay the investigation significantly. I would imagine they found something that would lead them to dig deeper. We know Trump to be someone who would have sold Alaska to the Russians if he could keep the proceeds. 1 2
BusyB Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 5 hours ago, bendejo said: Behind every great fortune there is a crime. — Balzac (maybe) Actually, it was his father's fortune. From what I remember his father was something of a slime bag as well ... slum landlord and exploiter of prospectors or something on those lines I believe ... 1 1
BusyB Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 5 hours ago, bendejo said: Well, all of that letting him slide during his term turned into a "give him enough rope" scenario. Did he really think he was going to get away with all this stuff? Treason charges are in the wind. I'd like to say 'we can but hope'. Except that would mean he had probably committed treason - meaning the damage would sadly already be done and no longer undoable.
RichardColeman Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 OK, so do it , if he's done wrong prosecute him. But all the links to sleepy Joe and his family business and there is nada from the DOJ. I very fear for the future of America. 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 23, 2023 2 hours ago, RichardColeman said: OK, so do it , if he's done wrong prosecute him. But all the links to sleepy Joe and his family business and there is nada from the DOJ. Obsessed much? 1 1 1
Popular Post LosLobo Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 23, 2023 3 hours ago, BusyB said: From what I remember his father was something of a slime bag as well ... slum landlord and exploiter of prospectors or something on those lines I believe ... You might be getting confused between Trump's father and his grandfather though likely having a similar reputation, His grandfather was a brothel owner in the Klondike. 1 1 1
Popular Post candide Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, LosLobo said: You might be getting confused between Trump's father and his grandfather though likely having a similar reputation, His grandfather was a brothel owner in the Klondike. And draft dodgers! ???? 3
Tug Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 Hopefully they will find something with enough evidence to persecute,at the very least find what and how he betrayed us to mitigate the damage (if he did) it’s quite possible he made copies of lots of sensitive material to use for leverage I wouldent put that past him 1 1
Popular Post LosLobo Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, Tug said: Hopefully they will find something with enough evidence to persecute,at the very least find what and how he betrayed us to mitigate the damage (if he did) it’s quite possible he made copies of lots of sensitive material to use for leverage I wouldent put that past him Leverage? Coincidently, a popular quote from his 'Art of the Deal' book was the importance of 'Leverage: don’t make deals without it'. He was the king of 'Quid Pro Quo'. It is obvious by the reluctance that he displayed in returning the stolen documents that they were valuable to him. And that he would leave no stone unturned in using them to make money. 2 1
BusyB Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 18 hours ago, LosLobo said: You might be getting confused between Trump's father and his grandfather though likely having a similar reputation, His grandfather was a brothel owner in the Klondike. Yeah thanks, that's the one, I just trawled it from memory like I said. That's where the fortune originates ... DNA I suppose. 1
Pink Mist Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 The OP is not about Biden. The OP Is about: Prosecutors Sought Records on Trump’s Foreign Business Deals Since 2017
Purdey Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 I do understand that Americans bandy the word treason around mainly because they cannot think of a stronger word or phrase than "I don't like him." Yet, the number of people who have called treason here on AN (and Twitter!) is excessive. The US Constitution is very specific. Article III, Section 3, Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only (my emphasis) in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The last American found guilty of treason was in... 1952. It is so rare for people to be accused officially of treason that even famous spies like Aldrich Ames, Robert Hanssen and Jonathon Pollard were prosecuted for espionage, not treason, because Congress had not declared was on the USSR. Sorry for being pedantic but when anyone says, "He's a traitor" whether about Trump or the group that invaded the Capitol, I can't help but feel they are hurting their own, perhaps otherwise not unreasonable, argument by not understanding the facts. Apologies for the intermission.
Popular Post billd766 Posted May 24, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 24, 2023 23 hours ago, RichardColeman said: OK, so do it , if he's done wrong prosecute him. But all the links to sleepy Joe and his family business and there is nada from the DOJ. I very fear for the future of America. Do you believe that you know more about President Biden's alleged links to the family business than the FBI and the DoJ teams who have been investigating President Biden and all the real evidence for years, yet have found NO actual proof of anything? The problem with the USA is people like Trump and his MAGA supporters who believe that Trump cannot and never has done any wrong despite oceans of proof to the contrary. Compare that to all the lies and false allegations made up about President Biden by the same mob (which is what they are), who AFAIK has not a shred of legal evidence against him. 3 1
Popular Post xylophone Posted May 24, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 24, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 1:50 PM, BusyB said: From what I remember his father was something of a slime bag as well ... slum landlord and exploiter of prospectors or something on those lines I believe ... 22 hours ago, LosLobo said: You might be getting confused between Trump's father and his grandfather though likely having a similar reputation, His grandfather was a brothel owner in the Klondike. Well trump has a strong lineage to live up to, and is so far doing it well......!! 1 1 1
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