Christian curriculum using textbooks that deny climate change and say evolution is impossible

[FritsSikkink]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Now show me a video of a dog evolving into a horse.

Evolution is a theory ........ as in not proven.

God is a theory ....... again not proven.

 

Once something is proven they drop the 'theory' bit.

But if evolution was real the number of species in the world should steadily increase.

And the unfortunate fact is, since the 'Cambrian explosion' when most of the major animal groups first 'appeared', the number of species has been reducing.

 

Which would tend to indicate God (sudden appearance of new animals in a short time) was more likely than evolution (gradual continuous appearance of new animals).

 

One of the problems with posters is they never think, they just repeat.

The wokes all repeat,

climate change is real an caused by humans

wearing a mask will prevent COVID

Evolution is real and proven

 

The religious all repeat,

Everything is the will of god

 

But none of them have ever tried thinking for themselves.

I even have a few doubts about Newtons Laws, as it fails to account for the orbits of the galaxy, and 'dark matter' (something you can't see or measure) to me, smacks a little of religion and faith.

I wouldn't try to write a scientific paper if I was you. there is no logic in this post at all.

[FritsSikkink]

7 hours ago, BritManToo said:

As posted previously Evolution and creation are both just theories.

There is no evidence to support either.

There is for evolution but you need to understand a bit of science

[BusyB]

13 hours ago, bendejo said:

Great news!  How exactly did God deliver this plan?  (asking for a friend)  Heaven has been around since Genesis, I would think it is in need of renovation -- central heating would be nice.

 

Future news today!

Conservatives question why the US is not mining cheese on the moon, congressional GOP wants answers!

 

 

If you can't handle the rigorous demands of science like calculations, deductions from observation, peer review, repeatable experiments etc. then specialise in fairy tales instead. They're easier to remember when it comes to your master's in 'bible studies'. 

[BusyB]

4 hours ago, Emster23 said:

Here is a neat little video about evolving to overcome antibiotics.... you are aware that many antibiotics from years ago that were 100% effective now are not potent. Evolution.... not shelf life!

Harvard med school demo of evolution of bacteria to overcome antibiotics

Stop confusing the poor dears with facts - you'll only frighten them and they become even more rabid.

[candide]

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Now show me a video of a dog evolving into a horse.

Evolution is a theory ........ as in not proven.

God is a theory ....... again not proven.

 

Once something is proven they drop the 'theory' bit.

But if evolution was real the number of species in the world should steadily increase.

And the unfortunate fact is, since the 'Cambrian explosion' when most of the major animal groups first 'appeared', the number of species has been reducing.

 

Which would tend to indicate God (sudden appearance of new animals in a short time) was more likely than evolution (gradual continuous appearance of new animals).

 

One of the problems with posters is they never think, they just repeat.

The wokes all repeat,

climate change is real an caused by humans

wearing a mask will prevent COVID

Evolution is real and proven

 

The religious all repeat,

Everything is the will of god

 

But none of them have ever tried thinking for themselves.

I even have a few doubts about Newtons Laws, as it fails to account for the orbits of the galaxy, and 'dark matter' (something you can't see or measure) to me, smacks a little of religion and faith.

You have no idea of what defines the status of a theory.

A theory remains a theory until it is refuted by empirical observations. Once refuted, it is not any more a valid theory, ex. the earth is flat is not any more a theory.

 

While the evolution theory has not been refuted so far, the creation theory has long been refuted by empirical observations in biology, geology, etc... So it is not even a theory any more. It is lying, with the flat earth theory, in the graveyard of dead theories.

 

There is no scientific debate about the creation theory any more. It's dead.

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Christian curriculum using textbooks that deny climate change and say evolution is impossible

 

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[EVENKEEL]

10 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Perhaps you should define "far superior."  If he's being taught that climate change and evolution are not real--among other things--one has to wonder if your kid would have benefited more from a public school education.  

What are you getting on about. Far superior to me means greater understanding of math, science and language. In the 90's climate change wasn't taught anywhere.

 

[ozimoron]

8 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

What are you getting on about. Far superior to me means greater understanding of math, science and language. In the 90's climate change wasn't taught anywhere.

 

It is now. In the science curriculum.

[placnx]

18 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Conservative is not a purely political term.

 

Though religious conservatives have largely aligned themselves with political conservatives and visa versa.

 

 

"Conservative" is a misnomer for these people, political or religious. How about reactionary?

[placnx]

12 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Very easy solution, don't send kids to a Christian school and they won't be bothered with this nonsense.

This goes to the idea that parents can choose to inflict their children with a garbage education. Don't children have rights?

[placnx]

12 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Years back I sent my kid to a Christian school for 9 yrs, now I'm not very religious but saw nothing wrong in learning some bible versus and having a good code of conduct for the kids. His education was far superior to the public school system.

 

 

Was that a Catholic parochial school? It's not the same as crazy evangelical schools. 

[Baht Simpson]

Some of us are descended from apes and others are descending to apes by the sound of it.   ????

 

 

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

What are you getting on about. Far superior to me means greater understanding of math, science and language. In the 90's climate change wasn't taught anywhere.

 

If the science education included proper use of the word "theory" it either would have taught evolution or neglected an important part of the science education.

[Anant72]

On 5/28/2023 at 9:09 PM, Jingthing said:

Bodes poorly for the future as the US must compete in a global economy.

Same in France where wokism is wreaking havoc in schools and universities. Schools are becoming “factories of cretins” to use the title of a book by a French journalist about the appalling state of education in that (my) country.

[EVENKEEL]

Funny thing is this is just to get people talking crap on Christian Schools. If you actually read the OP there's only a few schools teaching this lesson and some homeschooling. To me a Christian school is simply a private school where the parents care enough about their kid's education to pay. But, some folks are so fanatically against religion that they see Christian Schools as evil. Not to say all Christian Schools are good.

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Funny thing is this is just to get people talking crap on Christian Schools. If you actually read the OP there's only a few schools teaching this lesson and some homeschooling. To me a Christian school is simply a private school where the parents care enough about their kid's education to pay. But, some folks are so fanatically against religion that they see Christian Schools as evil. Not to say all Christian Schools are good.

6000 schools in 145 countries according to ACE themselves. That's a lot of pupils being fed that crap. That's without the home schooling.

[EVENKEEL]

39 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

6000 schools in 145 countries according to ACE themselves. That's a lot of pupils being fed that crap. That's without the home schooling.

That's more than the OP's page, all's I know is i would do my best not to send my kid to public school in the US these days.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

That's more than the OP's page, all's I know is i would do my best not to send my kid to public school in the US these days.

Considering its a UK report and only referencing those schools in the UK then its hardly surprising is it.

 

I'm grateful my 2 UK kids attended a normal government run school there and not one of these so called christian schools who promote such misinformation and racism.

[ozimoron]

6 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Funny thing is this is just to get people talking crap on Christian Schools. If you actually read the OP there's only a few schools teaching this lesson and some homeschooling. To me a Christian school is simply a private school where the parents care enough about their kid's education to pay. But, some folks are so fanatically against religion that they see Christian Schools as evil. Not to say all Christian Schools are good.

Most have been proven to be evil.

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[AP2019]

Whoops - the JWST is blowing up the big bang theory....

 

"The James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) appears to be finding multiple galaxies that grew too massive too soon after the Big Bang, if the standard model of cosmology is to be believed."

 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/04/230413154323.htm

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, AP2019 said:

Whoops - the JWST is blowing up the big bang theory....

 

"The James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) appears to be finding multiple galaxies that grew too massive too soon after the Big Bang, if the standard model of cosmology is to be believed."

 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/04/230413154323.htm

The big bang theory has long been questioned but that isn't any encouragement for its main competitor.

[heybruce]

17 minutes ago, AP2019 said:

Whoops - the JWST is blowing up the big bang theory....

 

"The James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) appears to be finding multiple galaxies that grew too massive too soon after the Big Bang, if the standard model of cosmology is to be believed."

 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/04/230413154323.htm

Interesting, but what has that got to do with the topic?

[AP2019]

6 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Interesting, but what has that got to do with the topic?

The article is critical of a Christian curriculum teaching creationism instead of evolution. I am pointing out just one of many inconsistencies of that theory.  So teaching an alternate theory shouldn't come under such criticism.

 

 

 

 

 

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, AP2019 said:

The article is critical of a Christian curriculum teaching creationism instead of evolution. I am pointing out just one of many inconsistencies of that theory.  So teaching an alternate theory shouldn't come under such criticism.

A theory that's patently and obviously false should not come under criticism just because another, unrelated theory is also criticised?

 

I'm seriously failing to draw a line between your conclusions in that comment. A classic non sequiter.

Edited May 30, 2023 by ozimoron

[AP2019]

9 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

A theory that's patently and obviously false should not come under criticism just because another, unrelated theory is also criticised?

 

I'm seriously failing to draw a line between your conclusions in that comment. A classic non sequiter.

You're using your bias to criticize the opinion without trying to follow the comparison. 

 

How is it unrelated?  Both deal with the beginnings of the universe and our planet. 

 

It's not an false theory - actually there are many scientific evidences for a young earth theory - which supports creationism.

 

 

 

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, AP2019 said:

You're using your bias to criticize the opinion without trying to follow the comparison. 

 

How is it unrelated?  Both deal with the beginnings of the universe and our planet. 

 

It's not an false theory - actually there are many scientific evidences for a young earth theory - which supports creationism.

Are you seriously suggesting that problems with a highly complex theory like the big bang theory gives more credibility to the theory of creationism? Really?

 

And no, there aren't. Not in scientific circles.

Edited May 30, 2023 by ozimoron

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, AP2019 said:

The article is critical of a Christian curriculum teaching creationism instead of evolution. I am pointing out just one of many inconsistencies of that theory.  So teaching an alternate theory shouldn't come under such criticism.

What is the inconsistency in the theory of evolution?  How does your link says nothing about that.

 

Do you understand that there is a difference between cosmology and evolution?