BREAKING: Hunter Biden reaches deal with Justice Department to plead guilty to three federal charges

[spidermike007]

It is fairly likely Trump is guilty of tens of millions in tax and bank fraud. Hopefully it will be proven, so the right will be silenced over this issue. 

[billd766]

19 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It is fairly likely Trump is guilty of tens of millions in tax and bank fraud. Hopefully it will be proven, so the right will be silenced over this issue. 

They will never be silenced, as they will just simply ignore facts and reality, and just keep blaming the Democrats as usual for their own failures.

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Yes. All America should be ashamed because the President has a son who's a drug addict and is going to plead guilty to 2 misdemeanors. This leaves the country only one course: Hunter Biden must be impeached and removed from non-office! Only then will the stain be removed from the nation.

Actually there is another course. Treat him as they would any other private citizen not related to Joe Biden and send him to jail.

 

Nobody else gets such leniency for massive tax evasion and illegal possession of a firearm. The nepotism is there for all to see. The Biden clan are turning the US into a laughing stock. A banana republic. If such softball treatment happened to a politicians son in Thailand for such serious offences everyone would be laughing at it for being a corrupt, third world country. And rightly so.  

[Chomper Higgot]

9 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Actually there is another course. Treat him as they would any other private citizen not related to Joe Biden and send him to jail.

 

Nobody else gets such leniency for massive tax evasion and illegal possession of a firearm. The nepotism is there for all to see. The Biden clan are turning the US into a laughing stock. A banana republic. If such softball treatment happened to a politicians son in Thailand for such serious offences everyone would be laughing at it for being a corrupt, third world country. And rightly so.  

Well you’ve certainly got me laughing Johnny.

 

Imagine, for example, if a private citizen were charged under the espionage statute, found to be in possession of secret documentation relating to the nation’s nuclear weapons, they get indicted but not immediately locked up pending trial.

 

That Johnny, would be real lenience.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

22 minutes ago, billd766 said:

They will never be silenced, as they will just simply ignore facts and reality, and just keep blaming the Democrats as usual for their own failures.

As we see, they simply add another conspiracy to their conspiracy pile.

[placeholder]

30 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Actually there is another course. Treat him as they would any other private citizen not related to Joe Biden and send him to jail.

 

Nobody else gets such leniency for massive tax evasion and illegal possession of a firearm. The nepotism is there for all to see. The Biden clan are turning the US into a laughing stock. A banana republic. If such softball treatment happened to a politicians son in Thailand for such serious offences everyone would be laughing at it for being a corrupt, third world country. And rightly so.  

You got any actual facts to back up your claims?

"Tax fraud as a general matter is very difficult for the government to prove because they have the burden to show the court that the taxpayer has intentionally defrauded the government out of tax revenue.  Proving that a taxpayer knowingly violated the highly complicated Internal Revenue Code is a very difficult task, so the government often chooses to pursue the taxpayer civilly for simply underpaying tax, which does not require proving that the taxpayer intentionally underpaid their taxes.  As a practical matter, if the taxpayer has any reasonable legal argument for why they did not pay the tax due they will usually beat a criminal charge."

https://www.tax-whistleblower.com/tax-fraud/#:~:text=Tax fraud as a general,government out of tax revenue.

 

And what about Hunter Biden's gun offense?

 

"As for the gun offense: in cases where the gun was not used to help commit a crime, prosecution is rare. Especially in cases were the person in possession of the weapon has voluntarily turned himself in for treatment.

The FBI, in reviewing instant background checks for firearm purchases, detected 112,000 lie-and-try crimes in fiscal 2017 alone, and federal investigators had names and addresses on the filled-out forms. How many were prosecuted? Twelve, according to a recent Government Accountability Office report."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/09/19/gun-buyers-lie-and-try-only-12-prosecuted-editorials-debates/1288699002/

 

Few Individuals Denied Firearms Purchases Are Prosecuted and ATF Should Assess Use of Warning Notices in
Lieu of Prosecutions

https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-18-440.pdf

 

 

Edited June 21, 2023 by placeholder

[ThailandRyan]

39 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Actually there is another course. Treat him as they would any other private citizen not related to Joe Biden and send him to jail.

 

Nobody else gets such leniency for massive tax evasion and illegal possession of a firearm. The nepotism is there for all to see. The Biden clan are turning the US into a laughing stock. A banana republic. If such softball treatment happened to a politicians son in Thailand for such serious offences everyone would be laughing at it for being a corrupt, third world country. And rightly so.  

Are you really truthfully making these statements as being real.  Very few actually go to jail.  

[stoner]

why are there so many comments about trump in this thread on hunter biden ? it's getting really strange now. 

 

all of which are off topic. 

[candide]

4 minutes ago, stoner said:

why are there so many comments about trump in this thread on hunter biden ? it's getting really strange now. 

 

all of which are off topic. 

Because MAGA fans are claiming it's a case of double standards.

[stoner]

6 minutes ago, candide said:

Because MAGA fans are claiming it's a case of double standards.

smh. 

 

your side is bad. nah yours is. no way we are clean and you are dirty. no way we are righteous.

 

keep squabbling while the rich get richer. 

[placeholder]

3 minutes ago, stoner said:

smh. 

 

your side is bad. nah yours is. no way we are clean and you are dirty. no way we are righteous.

 

keep squabbling while the rich get richer. 

A particularly incoherent example of both-sidesism.

[onthedarkside]

A reported post making baseless claims against another member has been reported and removed along with a number of replies.

[xylophone]

What is meant by, "smh"??

[bamnutsak]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Nobody else gets such leniency for massive tax evasion

Roger Stone, Wife Agree to $2 Million Settlement in Tax Case (1)

 

Roger Stone and his wife, Nydia Stone, have reached an agreement with the government to be held responsible for more than $2 million in taxes, penalties, and interest.

 

The agreement, filed Friday, asks the US District Court for the Southern District of Florida to enter a judgment that would either resolve or have dismissed all of the claims the federal government made against the Stone defendants in its 2021 lawsuit.

 

https://news.bloombergtax.com/daily-tax-report/roger-stone-wife-agree-to-2-million-settlement-in-tax-case

 

 

 

[bamnutsak]

24 minutes ago, xylophone said:

What is meant by, "smh"??

Shaking my head.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

56 minutes ago, stoner said:

smh. 

 

your side is bad. nah yours is. no way we are clean and you are dirty. no way we are righteous.

 

keep squabbling while the rich get richer. 

A bit of truth in that. However one of Trumps tricks, taken from the wannabe fascist playbook ,  is to say everyone is flawed and bad and corrupt as each other. The simple minded see flaws in both sides and come to the same conclusion, and conclude Trump is ok because even though he does some bad things at least he speaks for us and hates the things we hate, when in fact a clear minded appraisal indicates it is clearly not the case. 

[stoner]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

A particularly incoherent example of both-sidesism.

that's your view and you are entitled to that. as wrong as it may be. 

[stoner]

9 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

The simple minded see flaws in both sides and come to the same conclusion, and conclude Trump is ok because even though he does some bad things at least he speaks for us and hates the things we hate,

i hope this is not in reference to my personal view on this subject ? i didn't think it was allowed on the forum to name call and demean people. 

[billd766]

1 hour ago, stoner said:

smh. 

 

your side is bad. nah yours is. no way we are clean and you are dirty. no way we are righteous.

 

keep squabbling while the rich get richer. 

The rich will get richer whether we squabble or not.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

30 minutes ago, stoner said:

i hope this is not in reference to my personal view on this subject ? i didn't think it was allowed on the forum to name call and demean people. 

No. Was going to add   Not saying this applies to you   or similar. 

[darksidedog]

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Nothing out of the ordinary about a high official getting a good deal for his loser kid. We can't honestly believe a president's son to be treated the same as any of our kids. We need to drop this and focus on the Big Guy.

That has to be one of the most laughably inaccurate and ill informed posts I have ever read.

Biden allowed the Trump appointed Attorney General to stay in office (highly unusual), rather than ask him to resign and appoint a new one, precisely because he did not want to be involved, or even be seen to be involved with the case. So much for getting his kid a good deal, and I would love to hear your single shred of actual evidence to the contrary, though we all know you can't. Rhetoric and evidence are different by the way, which I mention as you don't seem to be able to differentiate between them.

This had zero to do with daddy and his influence and everything to do with the law being allowed to operate freely and impartially.

Years of highly politicized trawling for more serious crimes have found absolutely nothing against either father or son.

Meanwhile the charges Trump already faces, not to mention the whole load more coming soon are so much more serious and supported by overwhelming evidence, I find it difficult to understand how anyone without absolute blinkered vision and an inability to work out very basic truth from obvious slander can stand by and think he is a viable candidate for the most important post in the world.

Trump is the absolute loser, along with the morons still unable to work out what he is, or see through his continuous litany of deceit and lies.

Edited June 21, 2023 by darksidedog

[stoner]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

The rich will get richer whether we squabble or not.

if there was less squabble and more cooperation just imagine the transfer of wealth that could happen. 

[stoner]

1 hour ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

No. Was going to add   Not saying this applies to you   or similar. 

:)

[metisdead]

An inflammatory post has been reported and removed.

[EVENKEEL]

49 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

That has to be one of the most laughably inaccurate and ill informed posts I have ever read.

Biden allowed the Trump appointed Attorney General to stay in office (highly unusual), rather than ask him to resign and appoint a new one, precisely because he did not want to be involved, or even be seen to be involved with the case. So much for getting his kid a good deal, and I would love to hear your single shred of actual evidence to the contrary, though we all know you can't. Rhetoric and evidence are different by the way, which I mention as you don't seem to be able to differentiate between them.

This had zero to do with daddy and his influence and everything to do with the law being allowed to operate freely and impartially.

Years of highly politicized trawling for more serious crimes have found absolutely nothing against either father or son.

 

 

 

You're very emotional, take a deep breath. Sorry for deleting the Trump part as it was off topic and all that. I'd consider what hb got as a good deal, I'm sure having a daddy president didn't hurt. To say otherwise is extremely naive.

[billd766]

41 minutes ago, stoner said:

if there was less squabble and more cooperation just imagine the transfer of wealth that could happen. 

Tell that to the GOP then.

[stoner]

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

Tell that to the GOP then.

and right back to it. sigh. 

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

You're very emotional, take a deep breath. Sorry for deleting the Trump part as it was off topic and all that. I'd consider what hb got as a good deal, I'm sure having a daddy president didn't hurt. To say otherwise is extremely naive.

I believe he got what most people would expect. Probably even on the harsher side by all accounts. Biden has taken great care, as outlined in the post you responded to, to ensure that there could be no perception of interference. Of course, that's just too inconvenient for MAGA to accept. To believe that daddy did interfere is actually naive. It would have been grounds for impeachment had he done so. It was also open to Biden to pardon his own son. That he did not do so is telling.

Edited June 21, 2023 by ozimoron

[placeholder]

23 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

You're very emotional, take a deep breath. Sorry for deleting the Trump part as it was off topic and all that. I'd consider what hb got as a good deal, I'm sure having a daddy president didn't hurt. To say otherwise is extremely naive.

Actually, given the general way that most people who commit the same infractions that Hunter Biden did, it could be much more successfully argued that it hurt to have the integrity of the judicial process be a factor in this investigation. But, of course, if you are resistant to facts and how these matters are actually processed for most of those so engaged, then a convenient and self-serving disbelief will insulate you from the facts quite successfully.

[Isaan sailor]

Two-tiered justice system.  Jail time for normal Americans—Bidens skate.