Senate deputy chairman says Pita “unlikely to get 5 votes” from senators

[webfact]

A member of Thailand’s hand-picked Senate has predicted that the leader of the Move Forward Party “won’t even get 5 votes” from the 250 senators to back his bid for PM. Pita Limjaroenrat hopes to become Thailand’s next leader when the new PM is chosen, expected to happen on July 13.

 

Thailand’s current Senators were hand-picked by the 2014 coup leader and the NCPO after the 2017 Thai constitution was enacted. They have universally supported Thailand’s political status-quo and were installed, specifically, to keep conservative elements in charge of the Thai parliament.

 

Senator Kittisak Rattanawaraha has dismissed Pita’s chances of being elected. According to him, most senators have “already decided they’ll either vote against Pita or abstain”. Kittisak also says Pita might not be the only contender, as any party that has won 25 or more House seats can put forward up to 3 candidates.

 

By Peter Roche

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[lordgrinz]

The 250 Junta installed Senators should have been removed before the elections.

[sammieuk1]

Brought to you by usually wealthy old men who don't give a flying what happens to the economy in this asylum ???? 

[jacko45k]

52 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

The 250 Junta installed Senators should have been removed before the elections.

They really managed to stitch things up while illegitimately in power!

[MikeandDow]

21 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

They really managed to stitch things up while illegitimately in power!

The Thai people voted for this NO sympathy, its there mess

[h90]

1 hour ago, lordgrinz said:

The 250 Junta installed Senators should have been removed before the elections.

by who?

[jacko45k]

4 minutes ago, h90 said:

by who?

Sawang Boriboon perhaps, they get rid of snakes and did a good job with an unwelcome water monitor a few weeks  back!

[tomacht8]

250 unelected people can neutralize the voting decision of a 60+ million population. System error, where the democratic majority principle is overridden.

[h90]

6 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

250 unelected people can neutralize the voting decision of a 60+ million population. System error, where the democratic majority principle is overridden.

No they can't neutralize the voting...but they can bend the outcome a bit. And that are individual people not a monolithic voting block. They can't do something against an overwhelming majority and MFP decided themself that they don't want the vote from some parties.

That a party with such extreme ideas win the election could no one expect. When there is another majority in parliament the senators will vote for it and it will be also the voter decision. (As >50% of the MPs)

[tomacht8]

24 minutes ago, h90 said:

No they can't neutralize the voting...but they can bend the outcome a bit. -snip-

... bend the outcome a bit?

This is a joke, right?

 

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

A member of Thailand’s hand-picked Senate has predicted that the leader of the Move Forward Party “won’t even get 5 votes” from the 250 senators to back his bid for PM. Pita Limjaroenrat hopes to become Thailand’s next leader when the new PM is chosen, expected to happen on July 13.

Dinosaurs.

[hotchilli]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

They really managed to stitch things up while illegitimately in power!

The people let them do it... the older generation were so lethargic.

[nikmar]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

A member of Thailand’s hand-picked Senate has predicted that the leader of the Move Forward Party “won’t even get 5 votes” from the 250 senators

.....................who show an alarming lack of understanding as to what a democracy actually entails.

[wwest5829]

1 hour ago, tomacht8 said:

250 unelected people can neutralize the voting decision of a 60+ million population. System error, where the democratic majority principle is overridden.

And if it happens this way … for all the world to witness. Talk about discrediting the nation …

[Burma Bill]

2 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Brought to you by usually wealthy old men who don't give a flying what happens to the economy in this asylum ???? 

With respect, may I suggest a change of wording from "economy" to "democratically elected MPs"

[khunjeff]

These guys are just determined to trade in their Benzes for tumbrels, aren't they...

[Brian Hull]

Let us hope that the 250 illegally installed dinosaurs in the Senate become extinct ASAP.

[koolkarl]

There should be lots of blood in the streets.  Assuming Pita gets his rightful job, I do hope he passes  a law that the senate shall be elected forever. 

[soalbundy]

1 hour ago, tomacht8 said:

250 unelected people can neutralize the voting decision of a 60+ million population. System error, where the democratic majority principle is overridden.

Pita didn't get a majority of the electorate, his party had the most votes out of all the parties contesting which is why his government would be a coalition of 8 parties I believe, a recipe for disaster. It was pretty obvious that the Senate would blackball him as he was too radical in their opinion, he should have kept quiet about some of his policies. Opening up the alcohol market was especially dangerous, there are a couple of very big players who would be against this, one of them is very influential.

[Purdey]

This is what happens when a military junta takes power.

[tomacht8]

28 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Pita didn't get a majority of the electorate, his party had the most votes out of all the parties contesting which is why his government would be a coalition of 8 parties I believe, a recipe for disaster. It was pretty obvious that the Senate would blackball him as he was too radical in their opinion, he should have kept quiet about some of his policies. Opening up the alcohol market was especially dangerous, there are a couple of very big players who would be against this, one of them is very influential.

The coalition has the majority in Parlament and they are all voted in by the people. They coalition (the majority) agreed for Pita as PM. And then we have the unelected Senators, who can block the will of the parliamentary majority with its 250 votes.

 

 

[soalbundy]

3 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

The coalition has the majority in Parlament and they are all voted in by the people. They coalition (the majority) agreed for Pita as PM. And then we have the unelected Senators, who can block the will of the parliamentary majority with its 250 votes.

 

 

So reality

[MikeandDow]

19 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

The coalition has the majority in Parlament and they are all voted in by the people. They coalition (the majority) agreed for Pita as PM. And then we have the unelected Senators, who can block the will of the parliamentary majority with its 250 votes.

 

 

correct,  but the will of the people agreed to this constution, you get what You voted for

[Eric Loh]

2 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

correct,  but the will of the people agreed to this constution, you get what You voted for

The “will of the people” constitution was shredded by the military when they stage the coup. 

[Enoon]

 

A public declaration of the Senates utter contempt for the people.

 

Another step closer to the reckoning.

 

 

[spidermike007]

Senator Kittisak Rattanawaraha is an extremely bent and corrupt man, who has no perspective on anything, and cannot relate to the nation moving in a Forward direction. These kinds of imbeciles, super toxic men, and extinct dinosaurs need to be shamed, removed from politics and perhaps even exiled. Or worse. 

 

Deny the will of the people at your own peril. 

[billd766]

4 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Dinosaurs.

T,Rex were a UK pop group led by Marc Bolan.

 

One of their songs seems particularly apt nowadays, though I wouldn't expect any of the current mob of dinosaurs to either recognise or understand it.

 

If they did, they would be terrified of it.

 

 

[newbee2022]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

A member of Thailand’s hand-picked Senate has predicted

yeah, the clairvoyants are crawling out of the mud.????

[Toolong]

To Mr Kittisak - if I may for an indulgent moment imagine he might read this - I say: 

 

I have no gift of prophecy, and have lost most bets I've made, but I'm seeing things ahead for you, Mr Senator, that I'd stake certain odds on. The moment you uttered these words ascribed to you, after pocketing your pieces of silver, you kicked a karmic ball that'll roll on and on in your background while you meanwhile forget the whole thing.....until that ball stops outside your door with a jarring 'clunk'. 

As I have not one tiny bit of doubt that MFP - or they who follow in their footsteps - will sooner or later prevail over the corrupt, repulsive system of which you are a part, I would ask you whether or not you think any future honest & factual histories of contemporary Thai history shall give accounts of your own role in this s***show of events in ways that you would favour?

 

UNelected, only SElected, by the other UNelected (they with guns & tanks), you were and are it seems best described as just a disgraceful nothingburger. 

 

(You're welcome.)

  

[candide]

6 hours ago, koolkarl said:

There should be lots of blood in the streets.  Assuming Pita gets his rightful job, I do hope he passes  a law that the senate shall be elected forever. 

Sorry to play the fun spoiler again, but in order to amend the constitution, the approval of 2/3 of Senators is required.