Leg lost in transit: Thai professor reveals investigation into escalator accident at Bangkok airport

[thailand49]

10 hours ago, JensenZ said:

The way the story is told here it suggests that the moving steps of the travelator amputated her leg and that it was not amputated by rescuers. 

 

The story continues about her recovery and that she is learning to walk again: "mentioned that she was currently undergoing physical rehabilitation, learning to walk again with a walker". Would a person who just had a leg amputated above the knee be undergoing physical rehab in one week and learning to walk again? It was mentioned in one report that the hospital would be attempting to reattach her leg.

 

Maybe she didn't lose her leg at all. The stories don't add up.

Answers can all be found by attending and volunteering at the reenactment ????

[Smokey and the Bandit]

2 hours ago, nchuckle said:

So now you want a decapitation?! ????

Haven't we suffered enough horror,man?!

Obviously is was meant to be sarcastic? And it was!

[HuaHinHim]

Why are they using a professor of arts and science to provide a briefing? Don’t they have some kind of accident investigation board with a leader that can do it? 
 

ok fire away

[newnative]

     Makes total sense.  A tip of the hat to Occam's razor.  Someone falling on the moving walkway, or a small object lodging in the walkway, previous explanations thrown about, would not cause a properly serviced and maintained moving floor to collapse, resulting in grievous injury.   Nice to see the word 'loose' in the headline.  

[klauskunkel]

This was an article on June 30:

Don Mueang Ranked As 26th Most Dangerous Airport In The World

 

I think they just improved their position

[Bangkok Barry]

4 hours ago, swm59nj said:

So it’s inspected regularly.  But no one noticed the loose bolts. 
It’s from 1987. How often is it actually inspected 

They claimed it had been inspected three days before, or the night before depending on which report you read. I guess that maintenance meant ticking the box on the check form, as actually doing the check was a case of maintenance Thai-style, 'no need, it working okay'.

[onthedarkside]

Off topic post on the US removed.

 

Leg lost in transit: Thai professor reveals investigation into escalator accident at Bangkok airport

[mikeymike100]

So if this Prof is correct?

"Weerachai further reported that the plate of the escalator had become detached from its rail due to worn-out screws. This caused it to slide beneath the moving steps just as the victim was walking on it. As a result, the escalator abruptly stopped working for 10 seconds.

 

While the escalator was still in motion the other plates continued to move forward, impacting the victim’s leg and resulting in the amputation."

 

Then its not a design or installation problem, its a lack of maintenance problem?

[mikeymike100]

1 hour ago, HuaHinHim said:

Why are they using a professor of arts and science to provide a briefing? Don’t they have some kind of accident investigation board with a leader that can do it? 
 

ok fire away

Quite, wouldn't they get engineers from the manufacturer or design company to look at this?

Wouldn't there be some kind of maintenance manual, that sets out what needs to checked at specific intervals etc?

[spidermike007]

These devices typically have a service life of 30 years. And in the case of an airport, perhaps less, due to the extreme and constant nature of use. So, they were already 7 years behind a normal schedule, and one might assume 5 years early would be acceptable due to extreme usage. So, 12 years behind? 

 

Does this mean public safety is the last priority in the world for AOT? If so, that is very worrisome. Heads should roll. At a minimum, the head of the AOT should lost his job and even be charged with willful neglect. 

[The Theory]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The airport reassured the public that the new escalators would be first-class sensitive in terms of safety, to the extent that even a minor obstruction like a shoelace would be enough to halt the machine.

It won't bring her lost leg back ????

[Classic Ray]

Incident yes, accident no. Just as road traffic incidents are described as collisions  rather than  accidents in the U.K., “accidents” implies that  no one  is at fault or to blame.

 

Worn out or loose bolts are clear maintenance failures. I hope the investigation includes examination of the maintenance policy and records and of the CCTV that should show the “daily inspections” alleged to be carried out. Let’s see what is actually allowed  to come out.

[sambum]

"Meetings, reenactments, another 2 meetings"

 

None of which would (probably) be necessary if the maintenance had been done properly in the first place - and  they originally blamed a faulty wheel on the passenger's luggage!

Hence the recent report that Don Mueang Airport is one of the least safe in the world!!!

[drgoon]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Weerachai stated that he suggested a reenactment of the incident to the airport authorities

What, get someone else to do the same 555  another leg gone

[brianthainess]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Weerachai stated that he suggested a reenactment of the incident to the airport authorities before having another two meetings.

So they will put back loose and worn bolts again same suitcase and who will volunteer the so called transport minister?. Still no mention of CCTV footage

[brianthainess]

I guess shake proof washers and thread lock, haven't been heard of yet in safe and trusted Thailand.

[Cake Monster]

There are a myriad different screws available to prevent them from becoming loose during operation.

If this is the case, then the whole terrible incident smacks of gross incompetency and a total lack of professional skill.

A correctly skilled Inspection Team would have spotted such a blatant misuse of incorrect / non used screws

 

 

[Bazerino]

Leg lost in transit?

Was it being sent somewhere & got lost? 

[bignok]

6 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

Amazing how social media and Tom Dick and Harry now can resolve  outcome investigations instead of proper authorities and a chain of command including the legal system…

 

if you possess a keyboard just wing it…what a joke aka the rise of Trumpsters and the like…scary world we live in with social media influencers 

Walk around you see 95% staring at phones or computers. Zombie gen.

[Troy Tempest]

"Weerachai stated that he suggested a reenactment of the incident to the airport authorities before having another two meetings. "

 

Maybe they could get the same lady back to do the reeactment???...That way if it goes wrong again she would have a matching set of legs which could save her costly alterations by tailors when she buys new trousers in future?

 

OOPS!..Have I gone Too Far?

 

 

 

 

 

[newbee2022]

15 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Any volunteer's , want to lose a leg , I hope the lady gets  all she deserves ,not just a few thousand

Baht ,   due to worn-out screws. , but at first they said it was not the escalators' fault , now they will

be checking (hopefully) all others at the airport , maintenance here means doing something after

the accident.

 

regards worgeordie

"Any volunteer's , want to lose a leg"

 

 

??? what does that mean ???

Do you mean: No volunteer wants to lose a leg? And where the volunteers are coming from? To test the escalator?

Do you mean: Nobody wants to lose a leg voluntarily? But even involuntarily people don't want to lose a leg, isn't it?

And why is it volunteer's ( with this apostrophe) ??

????????????

[simon43]

My understanding is that in order to extricate the woman from the escalator, the trauma team decided to amputate her leg, but that this was then reattached in the hospital.

[smedly]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

was caused by loose bolts holding down a metal plate at the end of the conveyor belt,

in other words - it was poorly maintained, hardly a surprise is it

[Chongalulu]

3 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Obviously is was meant to be sarcastic? And it was!

Look up Poe’s law….

[StayinThailand2much]

"Leg lost in transit"

 

A holiday in Thailand doesn't have to cost you an arm or a leg, but it might.

[richard_smith237]

5 hours ago, JensenZ said:

There were a lot of different conclusions possible from all the reports I've read:

 

1. She had lacerations on her lower leg

2. Her leg was amputated by the travelator plates

3. Her leg was amputated by the rescue team

4. Bumrungrad said they could reattach the leg, suggesting her lower leg was still in serviceable condition.

 

As I understanding: 

 

1. Her leg was severely lacerated by the travelator plates to the point of partial amputation

2. First-aid teams made the decision to amputate as a life saving measure (risk bleeding out ?)

3. Dr's at Bumrungrad reattached the leg but it has been reported that they have stated it is unlikely she will ever regain use of the limb. 

 

Rehabilitation as soon as re-attachment is necessary to encourage blood flow.

I'm guessing walking may be possible although she'll have no feeling below the re-attachment and no muscular control.

 

[Smokey and the Bandit]

1 hour ago, mikeymike100 said:

Quite, wouldn't they get engineers from the manufacturer or design company to look at this?

Wouldn't there be some kind of maintenance manual, that sets out what needs to checked at specific intervals etc?

You would think so? But in Thailand?????

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

6 hours ago, swm59nj said:

It’s from 1987. How often is it actually inspected 

1987???

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

21 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

"Leg lost in transit"

 

A holiday in Thailand doesn't have to cost you an arm or a leg, but it might.

 

These days, it costs you an arm AND a leg, ????

 

[ignore it]

So...

It's not AOT's fault.

It's not the airport's fault.

It's not the fault of maintenance or inspection.

 

It's the bolts fault!