Thai parliamentary roadblock paves way for return of outgoing coalition govt

[MikeandDow]

6 hours ago, anchadian said:

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2023/07/25/thailand-politics-amanpour-pita-limjaroenrat.cnn

Very good video   Thailand really needs him full stop !!!

[dpcjsr]

lol lol lol lol, I have been saying since the beginning that Prawit would be the next PM. I may still end up being wrong but it was a very long shot at the time and now is soooo close. Predictable. 

Edited July 26, 2023 by dpcjsr

[Kaopad999]

8 hours ago, anchadian said:

Yes, absolutely horrific for all those Thai people that voted for MFP if this is allowed to happen.

 

What more can one say?

And yet these millions of people who voted for MFP are just sitting back not doing anyhting about it. No meaningful protests, just nothing.  

[Jumbo1968]

17 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

And yet these millions of people who voted for MFP are just sitting back not doing anyhting about it. No meaningful protests, just nothing.  

I think you might that they do want to take to the streets but that’s just what the army junta want them to do then they can take over again.

[bristolgeoff]

Many thai people are rightly upset.will it get worse i don,t know.We are the by standers and only that

[anchadian]

Thailand’s Constitutional Court has scheduled a meeting on August 3rd to consider whether to accept for consideration the ombudsman’s petition for the court to rule on the constitutionality of the July 19th decision by parliament, by a majority vote, to reject Move Forward party leader Pita Limjaroenrat’s renomination for the prime ministerial post

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/charter-court-to-consider-ombudsmans-petition-on-august-3rd/

[KhaoNiaw]

There's talk that MPs in some parties may be ready to jump ship and go to new homes. Prayut was the only reason most of his party came together so now that he's stepped away some of those MPs are open to moving on. One faction could even join Pheu Thai, though it's rumoured more likely that they'll go to Bhumjaithai. Anyway it could mean more numbers for a PT coalition and as they wouldn't be in 'military' parties any more, Move Forward wouldn't be expected to object to their presence.  

[sambum]

Just when you thought "things can only get better" they get worse!

[soalbundy]

Unfortunately THIS will be the harbinger of violence, now the street will speak.

[sambum]

"The analysts reckon that in this scenario, Palang Pracharath leader General Prawit Wongsuwan or Bhumjaithai leader Anutin Charnvirakul has a strong chance of becoming the next prime minister."

 

At the risk of being repetetive - "Just when you thought......." etc etc etc

[metisdead]

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[soalbundy]

1 hour ago, Kaopad999 said:

And yet these millions of people who voted for MFP are just sitting back not doing anyhting about it. No meaningful protests, just nothing.  

Yet! but things will change if the old gang is given power. Up until now the street has remained calm and surprisingly civilized, this has emboldened the Junta, possibly a fatal miscalculation.

[Confuscious]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

The analysts reckon that in this scenario, Palang Pracharath leader General Prawit Wongsuwan or Bhumjaithai leader Anutin Charnvirakul has a strong chance of becoming the next prime minister.

Do you need to be an "Analyst" to predict that scenarion?

The Generals and their "friends" will never allow anybody to become a PM or a leading government party in Thailand.
Too much money involved.

[bradiston]

5 hours ago, koolkarl said:

Told you the handsome fellow with the most expensive watches on the planet will be PM, elected or not.  Assuming he can stay awake or not pick his nose in front of a camera.  A true dog and pony show.

It doesn't matter. He will be powerless in a pathetic minority government.

[bradiston]

28 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Thailand’s Constitutional Court has scheduled a meeting on August 3rd to consider whether to accept for consideration the ombudsman’s petition for the court to rule on the constitutionality of the July 19th decision by parliament, by a majority vote, to reject Move Forward party leader Pita Limjaroenrat’s renomination for the prime ministerial post

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/charter-court-to-consider-ombudsmans-petition-on-august-3rd/

Isn't that the day he's supposed to appear to defend himself at the same venue against the trumped up charges of media share ownership brought by street urchin Woongker?

[bradiston]

5 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

Do you need to be an "Analyst" to predict that scenarion?

The Generals and their "friends" will never allow anybody to become a PM or a leading government party in Thailand.
Too much money involved.

Maybe they won't have any say in it.

[khaowong1]

10 hours ago, anchadian said:

Yes, absolutely horrific for all those Thai people that voted for MFP if this is allowed to happen.

 

What more can one say?

I asked a couple of my Thai friends about this, they say:  Farangs don't understand the Thai way.  ????‍♂️

[keithsimmonds]

Pita needs an audience pdq with him that is making a speech on Friday ..get him on his side and the jobs a good un ....????

[Toolong]

Roll up, roll up.......to the biggest political sh**sh** in town! 

 

Coming to you soon with a stellar cast of the nations favourite 'na-kan meuang' s**mbags, it promises to polarize the people like never before, beneath the grand big top of the most hilariously effed-up & deservedly mocked circus in the world! 

 

Special offer: Book early and be in with a chance to win a bonus Prawit Snoozing doll, with authentic snores and piggy little grunting noises*

 

* subject to availability and batteries not included.

[Stupooey]

Pita intends to amend Section 112 along the lines proposed by the late King in 2005. Has anyone from the Senate or those parties who will not join the coalition ever explained why they are opposed to the reform, as by doing so they appear to be placing themselves above the Monarchy?

[Spock]

8 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

How many countries in S.E. Asia have democratic elections, Cambodia have just had an election, it was from Democratic !

Cambodia doesn't really even have an opposition anymore, let alone a credible alternative party. For that you have Hun Sen and China to thank. The country doesn't even make any real pretence of being a democracy now that it's clutched to the bosom of Mainland China. Thailand does offer a selection of parties, but the military and the overruling parliamentary structure ensure that only the old guard can win in the end.

[Jumbo1968]

Just now, Spock said:

Cambodia doesn't really even have an opposition anymore, let alone a credible alternative party. For that you have Hun Sen and China to thank. The country doesn't even make any real pretence of being a democracy now that it's clutched to the bosom of Mainland China. Thailand does offer a selection of parties, but the military and the overruling parliamentary structure ensure that only the old guard can win in the end.

Has the the fella in Cambodia stepped down recently and appointed his son ?

[wazzupnow]

democratic goverment thailand 555 only way to get rid of these old gangsters is a funeral

[JemJem]

The following weeks will surely be very interesting. Ultra interesting if Thaksin DOES indeed manage to go to Thailand.

 

As of now, so many scenarios are possible. Very hard to guess what will happen.

[khunPer]

8 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

This was posted earlier 

 

Thanks, but not an answer to the question. This article is about the present situation. The Senators was appointed for a 5-year period, how will they be replaced next year?

Edited July 26, 2023 by khunPer

[khunPer]

9 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

10 hours ago, khunPer said:

What happens when the 250 – 249 remaining – appointed senators' period is up next year; will there be another 250 new senators and how will they be appointed or elected, and are they also going to vote for a primeminister as it's stated in the constitution..?

 

10 hours ago, bradiston said:

Big question whic I don't think anybody has a definite answer to get.

This was posted earlier 

 

Seached a bit:

Article 272 says that the power of the senators to vote for a PM expires in May 2024, which seems like however new senators are appointed – or elected – their seats in the parliament will not be included in vote for a primeminister...

Article 272 states that for the first five years of Parliament under the current Constitution, the new prime minister shall be elected by a joint sitting of Parliament. The candidate must gain votes from “more than half of the total number of existing members of both Houses” to be successful.
Source:

Thai PBS "Article 272: The unmovable constitutional rock that wrecked Pita’s PM bid".

 

Mr Jatuporn appeared to suggest, instead, that the pro-democracy coalition should wait it out until June 2024 when the Thai Senate’s voting rights will expire by law under Section 272 of the Thai Constitution.

–and–

A key factor in this equation ultimately is Section 272 of the 2017 Constitution which says that the power of the predominantly junta-appointed Senate expires after June 2024.

Source:

Thai Examiner "Jatuporn warns Pheu Thai may be turned as he predicts a political impasse. Should wait for 2024".

[kiwikeith]

17 hours ago, mfd101 said:

Enough to make us all throw up.

I said it a few days ago Anutin will be PM

[kiwikeith]

1 hour ago, khunPer said:

Seached a bit:

Article 272 says that the power of the senators to vote for a PM expires in May 2024, which seems like however new senators are appointed – or elected – their seats in the parliament will not be included in vote for a primeminister...

Article 272 states that for the first five years of Parliament under the current Constitution, the new prime minister shall be elected by a joint sitting of Parliament. The candidate must gain votes from “more than half of the total number of existing members of both Houses” to be successful.
Source:

Thai PBS "Article 272: The unmovable constitutional rock that wrecked Pita’s PM bid".

 

Mr Jatuporn appeared to suggest, instead, that the pro-democracy coalition should wait it out until June 2024 when the Thai Senate’s voting rights will expire by law under Section 272 of the Thai Constitution.

–and–

A key factor in this equation ultimately is Section 272 of the 2017 Constitution which says that the power of the predominantly junta-appointed Senate expires after June 2024.

Source:

Thai Examiner "Jatuporn warns Pheu Thai may be turned as he predicts a political impasse. Should wait for 2024".

Can they wait it out? If they can this would throw a unwanted spanner into the works. 

[Artisi]

17 hours ago, jaideedave said:

What a bloody mess. Democracy takes a back seat to the cartel. Really though, is anyone surprised?

No. 

[Artisi]

6 hours ago, Toolong said:

Roll up, roll up.......to the biggest political sh**sh** in town! 

 

Coming to you soon with a stellar cast of the nations favourite 'na-kan meuang' s**mbags, it promises to polarize the people like never before, beneath the grand big top of the most hilariously effed-up & deservedly mocked circus in the world! 

 

Special offer: Book early and be in with a chance to win a bonus Prawit Snoozing doll, with authentic snores and piggy little grunting noises*

 

* subject to availability and batteries not included.

Does it come with a watch?