Pattaya Man Fined 1,000 Baht for Punching South Korean Live Streamer, Live Streamer Fined As Well

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I didn't say that would be ok, but, then, no one is doing what you hypothesised.

So we are agreed that there IS some expectancy of private space in public then...

 

It is just a case of determining where the line is drawn.

[BangkokReady]

33 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

If some "YouTuber" ... sticks a camera in their face"

No one "stuck a camera in anyone else's face".

Come on now.  You know that doesn't mean they are doing it literally.

 

Remember that good trolling needs to be believable.

[traveller101]

33 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I don't care if it's illegal. If some "YouTuber" walks up to someone when they're on the beach or any other public place and sticks a camera in their face and tells them they are being livestreamed to all their "followers" they better hope the camera is insured. 

 

Why don't you try it? Walk up to a group of Thai males and start filming them and tell them it's being livestreamed to thousands and that it's perfectly legal. Be sure to report back what happened ????.

 

The Korean got what he deserved. Possibly less.

 

People with your attitude of disrespecting people's private space deserve what is coming to them.

Seems to me that you are at the very least condoning violence for a person's actions (livestreaming on a public beach), that are despised by some but nevertheless declared completely legal by Pattaya Police.

Typical Caveman mentality - I don't  care (about legality) - I don't like, I like to stop this (alphamale chest beating).

 

 

[TimeMachine]

53 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No, it is not, on the beach.  Drinking alcohol on beaches in Thailand is not permitted.

Officially yes. Everbody does it. I guess like prostitution.illegal. you'll only be in trouble if you are drunk or throw trash around bringing attention to yourself.  In pattaya.  Alcohol all over the place. Sold on the beach too. During festivals.  Btw.  Leo is my choice. Just because im a  Seinfeld fan. 

[Jerboa1]

Just shows you the problem with inflation, not long ago a Thai man could punch a foreigner in the face, pay a 500 baht fine and still have change for a couple of Leo’s and some som tam.

[JonnyF]

4 minutes ago, traveller101 said:

Seems to me that you are at the very least condoning violence for a person's actions (livestreaming on a public beach), that are despised by some but nevertheless declared completely legal by Pattaya Police.

Typical Caveman mentality - I don't  care (about legality) - I don't like, I like to stop this (alphamale chest beating).

 

 

We are living in the real world here. 

 

Like I said, it's not illegal for someone to sit 1 metre away from your wife/daughter sunbathing in her bikini on the beach and stare at her, maybe take a few pictures of her with his iPhone, maybe start a livestream for thousands of his YouTube followers to look at her body and comment on her. But don't expect most people to just sit there and take that because it's technically not illegal. 

 

Most people with a modicum of social skills and decorum realize that while some things may not be technically illegal, they are socially unacceptable and may lead to a verbal or physical altercation. Some people like the Korean think they can do what they want, and they learn the hard way how the world really works.  

 

As for abiding by the law 100%, in many countries (including Thailand until recently) it is not illegal to rape your wife. Does that mean you think it's OK that some men do it in those countries? I would assume not. So as you can see, sometimes we have to place our own understanding of what is acceptable above what is considered legal.

[Lucky Bones]

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

We are living in the real world here. 

 

Like I said, it's not illegal for someone to sit 1 metre away from your wife/daughter sunbathing in her bikini on the beach and stare at her, maybe take a few pictures of her with his iPhone, maybe start a livestream for thousands of his YouTube followers to look at her body and comment on her. But don't expect most people to just sit there and take that because it's technically not illegal. 

 

Most people with a modicum of social skills and decorum realize that while some things may not be technically illegal, they are socially unacceptable and may lead to a verbal or physical altercation. Some people like the Korean think they can do what they want, and they learn the hard way how the world really works.  

 

As for abiding by the law 100%, in many countries (including Thailand until recently) it is not illegal to rape your wife. Does that mean you think it's OK that some men do it in those countries? I would assume not. So as you can see, sometimes we have to place our own understanding of what is acceptable above what is considered legal.

Agreed. In a nutshell, punch the daylights out of him and then pass the mantle to the next person.

Simples.????????

[Lucky Bones]

25 minutes ago, traveller101 said:

Seems to me that you are at the very least condoning violence for a person's actions (livestreaming on a public beach), that are despised by some but nevertheless declared completely legal by Pattaya Police.

Typical Caveman mentality - I don't  care (about legality) - I don't like, I like to stop this (alphamale chest beating).

 

 

The guy behind the camera is a tosser, likely worse behind closed doors.

Violence ...yes. Exterminate.????????

[JoseThailand]

3 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

Yes. Let's try punching a Thai man in the face and see if a farang only has be pay 1000 Baht. ???? Any volunteers to go first? 

You could even be deported for that, just like for any other offence

[jvs]

You guys are mixing things up.

"There is no expectancy of privacy in public"

This means basically that you can be recorded by anyone while you

are out and about.

That is one thing.

The other one is about "private space"

Private space is all about keeping enough social distance between you and whom ever you are dealing with.

If some one is sticking a camera in you face it could be considered harassment.

If someone is live streaming and you happen to be in the line of the shot the best way to deal with it is just to ignore it and not look into the camera.

The worst and stupidest thing you can do is walk up to the camera

and draw attention to yourself.Make sense?

[FruitPudding]

I wonder if the Thai guy gets this in his criminal record (assuming he paid the settlement fine of 1000 at police station)?

[jak2002003]

4 hours ago, proton said:

It's featured on integrity legal, the American lawyer in Bkk you tube, I don't intend to search for it again as it was several months back, he does show the actual law.

So you can't then. 

[sapson]

Wasnt Thai law changed within the last year, its always been legal to film people in public but it has been deemed illegal to video people then later publish this footage on any social media outlet without the permission of those being featured.

[jvs]

23 minutes ago, sapson said:

Wasnt Thai law changed within the last year, its always been legal to film people in public but it has been deemed illegal to video people then later publish this footage on any social media outlet without the permission of those being featured.

I really don't know but i doubt it,this would mean you can never film people.

Imagine you film a beach scene and there are a thousand people there.

 

[sapson]

2 minutes ago, jvs said:

I really don't know but i doubt it,this would mean you can never film people.

Imagine you film a beach scene and there are a thousand people there.

 

You can film anyone in any public place but then showing that footage on social media without consent is now illegal, believe it was announced on a thread on here during the last year.

 

But prostitution is illegal in Thailand so guess the thousands of vloggers are not too worried.

[freedomnow]

Money makes the world go round...fine both of them...hahah.

 

Ka-ching ! 

[proton]

56 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

So you can't then. 

Why don't you look it up, I told you where to find it

[CartagenaWarlock]

12 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Exploitation of Thai people to get views.  They should all be banned.

I have also seen an explosion of Indian tourists live streaming beach road sex workers, some of them are even interviewing them. 

[Pumpuynarak]

15 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

A punch on the nose would not be GBH in the UK!  Much more likely to be considered to be common assault or battery.

Now would that be a 12 volt or 6 volt ?

 

A punch to the face would typically be charge as single-blow GBH. See the graphic above to find out where this sits on the scale of severity across all types of assault offences.Jun 4, 2562 BE

 

Edited July 31, 2023 by Pumpuynarak

[Gaccha]

So the streamer got fined for 'voluntarily quarreling and being a public nuisance'. Nice. 

[Gaccha]

35 minutes ago, Pumpuynarak said:

A punch to the face would typically be charge as single-blow GBH.

Ex-lawyer here.

 

I agree it'd be GBH as a matter of law. The external bleeding is sufficient for a charge of GBH through wounding.

 

Although in practice, the charge might get diluted to ABH at the courts. 

[Pumpuynarak]

2 minutes ago, Gaccha said:

Ex-lawyer here.

 

I agree it'd be GBH as a matter of law. The external bleeding is sufficient for a charge of GBH through wounding.

 

Although in practice, the charge might get diluted to ABH at the courts. 

Thanks for your confirmatory post, and i am a retired UK magistrate. Yes indeed it might get diluted at the courts but certainly not ime to ''common assault or battery''

[jacko45k]

11 hours ago, jvs said:

I really don't know but i doubt it,this would mean you can never film people.

Imagine you film a beach scene and there are a thousand people there.

 

Well even Google Maps got to blurring faces...... 

I think back to my youth, snogging the girlfriend before she got on the last bus home.... imagine back then if some goon showed up with  a camera insisting it is a public place and his right!

Or some off looking person recording your kids playing on the beach.....it is my right he says!

Or my mug on social media in some embarrassing scenario because the camera holder was stood on a public street. 

I am beginning to have some sympathy for Prince Harry and his bossy wife....

 

Edited July 31, 2023 by jacko45k

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

Well even Google Maps got to blurring faces...... 

I think back to my youth, snogging the girlfriend before she got on the last bus home.... imagine back then if some goon showed up with  a camera insisting it is a public place and his right!

Or some off looking person recording your kids playing on the beach.....it is my right he says!

Or my mug on social media in some embarrassing scenario because the camera holder was stood on a public street. 

Absolutely right. There is a good reason Google blur the faces, they get it. Filming people and trying to catch compromisng situations for social media clout is totally obnoxious behaviour and hopefully these type of incidents deter the 'vloggers' (w***ers) from doing it. Walking around filming sex workers (essentially degrading them) for a few dollars, or secretly recording people in bars from a camera hidden in the overcoat, real low life Peeping Tom stuff.

 

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

I am beginning to have some sympathy for Prince Harry and his bossy wife....

 

Woooohhhh hold your horses Jacko. Getting your photo taken when leaving red carpet events, or by Paparazzi that you tipped off to get your name in the paper is totally different. They make their living in the media so they have to expect media attention. 

[JonnyF]

2 hours ago, Gaccha said:

So the streamer got fined for 'voluntarily quarreling and being a public nuisance'. Nice. 

Should have got 30 days in the slammer and deported for being an obnoxious tosspot. 

 

The guards could have livestreamed him eating his fishhead soup for social media clout. Now that I would "Like".

[Lucky Bones]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

Well even Google Maps got to blurring faces...... 

I think back to my youth, snogging the girlfriend before she got on the last bus home.... imagine back then if some goon showed up with  a camera insisting it is a public place and his right!

Or some off looking person recording your kids playing on the beach.....it is my right he says!

Or my mug on social media in some embarrassing scenario because the camera holder was stood on a public street. 

I am beginning to have some sympathy for Prince Harry and his bossy wife....

 

Yup Jacko.

Similar to my youth in Oz circa 1970's.

The Italian saying......

"You toucha my car - I breaka your face."????????

[Pumpuynarak]

2 hours ago, Gaccha said:

Ex-lawyer here.

 

I agree it'd be GBH as a matter of law. The external bleeding is sufficient for a charge of GBH through wounding.

 

Although in practice, the charge might get diluted to ABH at the courts. 

 

2 hours ago, Pumpuynarak said:

Thanks for your confirmatory post, and i am a retired UK magistrate. Yes indeed it might get diluted at the courts but certainly not ime to ''common assault or battery''

Having watched the vid now i would imagine that he would be charged with a much less serious charge as the damage done is quite insignificant. 

[SAFETY FIRST]

On 7/31/2023 at 2:46 AM, webfact said:

A Thai man was fined for punching a South Korean live streamer

We need to start a Gofundme page for the Thai guy who smashed that Korean. 

Pay for the fine he got. 

 

Those YouTubers are weirdos. 

Edited August 1, 2023 by SAFETY FIRST

[Emdog]

On 7/31/2023 at 12:44 PM, kwak250 said:

Or 5 punches to the same person unless tha still counts as 1,000 baht

You'd think the charges would go down per punch: the fifth punch wouldn't give the same level of satisfaction as punch #1. Some sort of logarithmic scale....

[balo]

Try to hit a Thai man in his face and see if you'll live another day. The fine would be least of my worries.