Jingthing Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 34 minutes ago, freedomnow said: Can he not get barred from running if a criminal charge sticks on the classified documents events....that is obviously what is being aimed at ? His former lawyer said its clear cut in that charge case...hands-down. No. He can't be barred from running even from prison.
Yellowtail Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, heybruce said: You are confusing President with king of dictator. Try checking the US Constitution. https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii My question was: The President is not supposed to be in charge of the federal government and bureaucracy? Is it your position that the President is or is not supposed to be in charge of the federal government and bureaucracy? 1 1 1
Nickcage49 Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 Sadly that's right. Isn't it about time he dies already? You'd hope those cheeseburgers, ice cream and coke would do their work already. 1
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted July 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 31, 2023 16 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: It was not his fault. But, his tepid response and his typical denial likely delayed a full scale federal response and increased the fatality rate. So, you could say he has alot of blood on his hands. In Jan 22nd. "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's going to be just fine," he said. On March 11th: During an Oval Office address, Trump said that for "the vast majority of Americans, the risk is very, very low" — though he did warn that the "elderly population must be very, very careful." In May 19th: "When we have a lot of cases, I don't look at that as a bad thing," the president said. "I look at that in a certain respect as being a good thing, because it means our testing is much better. So, if we were testing a million people instead of 14 million people, we would have far few cases, right? In Sept. 21st: During a campaign speech in Swanton, Ohio, Trump claimed without evidence that the coronavirus "affects virtually nobody," downplaying the risk of the extent of the pandemic and the danger that it poses to individuals. In that campaign speech, he suggested that the virus is dangerous only to older people with heart problems and preexisting conditions, sentiments that go against the guidance of most public health experts. "It affects elderly people, elderly people with heart problems, if they have other problems, that's what it really affects, that's it. In some states thousands of people — nobody young — below the age of 18, like nobody — they have a strong immune system — who knows?" Trump said. "Take your hat off to the young because they have a hell of an immune system. It affects virtually nobody," he added. "It's an amazing thing — by the way, open your schools!" Denial, denial and more denial. Trumps utter hatred of truth and facts always made him a dangerous man. Nothing has changed. 2 1
Popular Post CharlieKo Posted July 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Yellowtail said: Do you think that there are people paying enough attention to donate money that do not know he is being targeted for prosecution? The way the Dems are going after Trump. Will lose them the vote. 1 1 1
Popular Post candide Posted July 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, CharlieKo said: The way the Dems are going after Trump. Will lose them the vote. At this stage, It's not the Dems any more (ex Jan.6 committee), It's the justice system. 3
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted July 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, CharlieKo said: The way the Dems are going after Trump. Will lose them the vote. I don't think so. Just look at the lefties posing here, the think all this BS is real. 1 1 1
Popular Post CharlieKo Posted July 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Tropposurfer said: Drain the swamp, clean up Washington ... my nana's backside ! He has ZERO interest in doing anything except enriching and empowering himself. Donald Trump is a deeply deeply sick sociopath. He would simply allow the nation to fall apart while he and his creep family, steal, trade-off, and sell everything including the kitchen sink to line their own pockets. Sounds like Biden to me! 1 1 1
GammaGlobulin Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 Isn't Trump too old? Isn't Biden too old? If Trump is chosen to run... Does that mean that we Americans have a death wish?
Popular Post CharlieKo Posted July 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Yellowtail said: I don't think so. Just look at the lefties posing here, the think all this BS is real. That's how messed up the Left are. 2 1 1
GammaGlobulin Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 29 minutes ago, Nickcage49 said: Sadly that's right. Isn't it about time he dies already? You'd hope those cheeseburgers, ice cream and coke would do their work already. Covid didn't do it, so maybe nothing will.
CharlieKo Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 1 minute ago, GammaGlobulin said: Isn't Trump too old? Isn't Biden too old? If Trump is chosen to run... Does that mean that we Americans have a death wish? The only one who seems to have a death wish is Biden! 1
CharlieKo Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, candide said: At this stage, It's not the Dems any more (ex Jan.6 committee), It's the justice system. You mean Biden's DOJ. With what seem like spurious claims of wrong doing. They will have a hard time proving any of those charges, regardless of what they say. 1
GammaGlobulin Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, CharlieKo said: The only one who seems to have a death wish is Biden! NOT TRUE!!! Please see this story here concerning Death Wish if Trump runs: Above image taken from: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12353759/Bill-Barr-says-hell-jump-BRIDGE-Donald-Trump-wins-GOP-2024-nomination.html 1 1
CharlieKo Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 Just now, GammaGlobulin said: NOT TRUE!!! Please see this story here concerning Death Wish if Trump runs: Above image taken from: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12353759/Bill-Barr-says-hell-jump-BRIDGE-Donald-Trump-wins-GOP-2024-nomination.html Well I hope Barr does jumps off a bridge. The Daily Mail, a well know trashy news outlet! 1
soalbundy Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 7 hours ago, riclag said: “But for now, the chance that Trump is president in less than two years time is a very real possibility”. Why is it a possibility! Some people want somebody thats willing to stand up for Americans and fight for traditional values imop Do the neocons and dems dislike his ideas, no doubt! He has a vision to rearrange the Washington establishment and he has many grassroots supporters who feel the same. He mentioned at his rally he’s got grassroots support and many of his donations are less than $50 Every country gets the leaders they deserve, through inaction or ignorance, unfortunately America deserves Trump although not through inaction. I should think that most civilized countries would act with distaste towards him if he won the election, he is a danger to the free world and democracy. Biden should gracefully retire and let a younger dynamic person contest the election. Really, is this the best the USA has to offer, Biden or Trump ? 1
Screaming Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 What really scares me to death is the real possibility of Biden winning another term. 1 1
Popular Post Jingthing Posted July 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, candide said: At this stage, It's not the Dems any more (ex Jan.6 committee), It's the justice system. Magadonians think their dear leader is above the law. 1 3
Jingthing Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, soalbundy said: Every country gets the leaders they deserve, through inaction or ignorance, unfortunately America deserves Trump although not through inaction. I should think that most civilized countries would act with distaste towards him if he won the election, he is a danger to the free world and democracy. Biden should gracefully retire and let a younger dynamic person contest the election. Really, is this the best the USA has to offer, Biden or Trump ? What you don't get is that Biden is a strong candidate just based on being the incumbent. 1 1
scottiejohn Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Magadonians think their dear leader is above the law. As does their "dear leader"! 1
candide Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, CharlieKo said: You mean Biden's DOJ. With what seem like spurious claims of wrong doing. They will have a hard time proving any of those charges, regardless of what they say. You mean spurious claims such as Trump asking to find him 11,000 votes? Or refusiing to give back Presidential records, hiding them and lying about it, and thus obstructing justice? Just to name two. 1
freedomnow Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Yellowtail said: Are you talking about Biden, Trump, Pence, Clinton, Obama or Clinton? Yes.
Jingthing Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: As does their "dear leader"! Natch
GammaGlobulin Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 17 minutes ago, soalbundy said: Every country gets the leaders they deserve, through inaction or ignorance, unfortunately America deserves Trump although not through inaction. I should think that most civilized countries would act with distaste towards him if he won the election, he is a danger to the free world and democracy. Biden should gracefully retire and let a younger dynamic person contest the election. Really, is this the best the USA has to offer, Biden or Trump ? I agree with you 100 PERCENT! Your solution is the ONLY logical solution to this mess. Also, Trump will help to destroy the world, if elected, through continued inaction concerning Global Warming, obviously. 1 1
Yellowtail Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Magadonians think their dear leader is above the law. Not sure I qualify as a magadonian, but I do not think that Trump is above (or anyone) is above the law. But I do think that calling the January 6th protest/riot an insurrection is ridiculous. You and others on the left don't. You guys think a bunch of morons with sticks and bottles were attempting to overthrow the government. 1 1
Yellowtail Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jingthing said: What you don't get is that Biden is a strong candidate just based on being the incumbent. And having Harris as VP makes him stronger. I'm guessing he ends up not running, and Kamala has to run (and lose) against Newsom and whomever else runs.
Woof999 Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Bday Prang said: I get your point , but i am from the uk, It wouldn't make things any worse If you are from the UK and want Trump to win you're more foolish than the Americans voting for him. His "Make America Great Again" was supposed to be a concerted effort to put the US first above everything, including key allies such as the UK. In reality it turned out to be a "Try To Make Donald Great Just Once" presidency that ended in utter disgrace and an attempted coup. There will be nothing for the UK (or anywhere else for that matter) in a 2nd Donald term. The UK has been vulnerable since the ridiculous decision to leave the EU. Trump will make that worse (IMHO). 2
Popular Post Woof999 Posted July 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 31, 2023 38 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Just look at the lefties posing here, the think all this BS is real. People who utterly detest Trump must be lefties? The guy is an asshat of the highest order. Love from a non lefty. 2 1 1
nauseus Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, spidermike007 said: It was not his fault. But, his tepid response and his typical denial likely delayed a full scale federal response and increased the fatality rate. So, you could say he has alot of blood on his hands. In Jan 22nd. "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's going to be just fine," he said. On March 11th: During an Oval Office address, Trump said that for "the vast majority of Americans, the risk is very, very low" — though he did warn that the "elderly population must be very, very careful." In May 19th: "When we have a lot of cases, I don't look at that as a bad thing," the president said. "I look at that in a certain respect as being a good thing, because it means our testing is much better. So, if we were testing a million people instead of 14 million people, we would have far few cases, right? In Sept. 21st: During a campaign speech in Swanton, Ohio, Trump claimed without evidence that the coronavirus "affects virtually nobody," downplaying the risk of the extent of the pandemic and the danger that it poses to individuals. In that campaign speech, he suggested that the virus is dangerous only to older people with heart problems and preexisting conditions, sentiments that go against the guidance of most public health experts. "It affects elderly people, elderly people with heart problems, if they have other problems, that's what it really affects, that's it. In some states thousands of people — nobody young — below the age of 18, like nobody — they have a strong immune system — who knows?" Trump said. "Take your hat off to the young because they have a hell of an immune system. It affects virtually nobody," he added. "It's an amazing thing — by the way, open your schools!" I don't think any government got the handling of this outbreak right but to assign blood to the hands of Trump is ridiculous. If you look at your selection, what he said was pretty much accurate at those times, if the word 'risk' is taken in the context of fatality. Initially, I'm sure Trump (and other leaders) would have been given advice to try to avoid any panic.
nauseus Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 43 minutes ago, candide said: At this stage, It's not the Dems any more (ex Jan.6 committee), It's the justice system. All the same gang.
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