Trump charged with four counts over 2020 election

[BarraMarra]

5 hours ago, watthong said:

As a Brit you should get out more, travel is easy (especially parts of the world that at one time or another had been grabbed colonially by the "Crown.") Don't restrict your world view to that of your telly screen, that would help the flow of general discussion...

Might be better if you spoke King's English instead of trying being clever using big words.

Edited August 4, 2023 by BarraMarra

[BarraMarra]

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

This thread is about what a US president did.

 

We know what Trump did, you don't need to be a Politician to see what a liar and a cheat he is but there's little point to this thread. All were gonna get is he did this he did that obama did this Hilary did that all we need to know is on the Evidence is he a liar and a cheat and did he incite a Coup by his Actions Yes or No.

Edited August 4, 2023 by BarraMarra

[BarraMarra]

Here we go again he said this he said that.

[Danderman123]

10 hours ago, bignok said:

Biden dictatorship using laws from 1870.

Or following the Constitution from 1787.

[stevenl]

3 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Here we go again he said this he said that.

Why don't you stop reading the thread if you don't like it.

[CharlieKo]

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The republican party is too stupid to nominate someone like Christie.

Seems the Democrats were dumb enough to choose Biden!

[pomchop]

4 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

Seems the Democrats were dumb enough to choose Biden!

yeah too bad they couldn;t choose a reality tv game show host who would suggest drinking bleach, leave behind the biggest deficit of any president ever, hire  only the best and brightest then fire them the minute they dared tell him the truth, get negative marks from 42 of 44 of HIS appointed cabinet members who got to observe his incompetence up close....then tell lie after lie , steal classified docs, obstruct their return over and over and over, encourage and cheer on violence, mock handicapped people, scoff at generals and pow's, get convicted of sexual assualt, pay off porn stars cheer on the jan 6 thugs that rioted in the capital and tried to hang his vp (just to name a few of the greatest hits)..oh and the cherry on top try to overthrow the government so king donnie could illegally stay in power like some russian or iraqi dictator would do....what a shining example of a person that to this day is still worshipped by a majority of republicans....

 

 

[watthong]

Ari Melber of MSNBC gave a fantastic recap of Jan 6 coup, and how 3rd indictiment charges correlate with TRUMP FAILED coup bullet points.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOYhisvHoWs

Edited August 5, 2023 by watthong

[watthong]

7 hours ago, pomchop said:

but they spend more than an hour reading this forum and throwing out all the what about biden and witch hunt crap rather than read the darn indictment

They are on this forum to keep other folks distracted FROM reading the indictment. The indictment to them is like holy water to vampires. Even just a whiff of it would turn them to ashes.

[watthong]

6 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Might be better if you spoke King's English instead of trying being clever using big words.

One final friendly bit og advice from the "other side of the pond:" Try not to speak/act like frogs sitting at the bottom of a well.  The sky is larger than what you might see from there (hope you get that, but fat chance, sincerely.)

[watthong]

Up to now, I still wonder if the Jan6 committee did not have the hearing, would we have Jack Smith? What would explain Merrick Garland inaction up to that point? Seems like he came into his job with his hands tied. What could have been the restraint?

[watthong]

6 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

We know what Trump did, you don't need to be a Politician to see what a liar and a cheat he is but there's little point to this thread.

Hope you look at yourself in the mirror sometime. Do you know what's a party pooper (sorry if that's not in your "King's English" - if not than invest in an American dictionary, especially when nosing into their business.") Crashing in somebody's party and wondering why people are having fun, lunatic if you ask me.

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, CharlieKo said:

Seems the Democrats were dumb enough to choose Biden!

You mean the guy who beat Trump in 2020?

[Danderman123]

Trump may have "free speeched" himself into some trouble today.

 

Apparently he made a threat, paraphrasing Al Capone.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, watthong said:

Up to now, I still wonder if the Jan6 committee did not have the hearing, would we have Jack Smith? What would explain Merrick Garland inaction up to that point? Seems like he came into his job with his hands tied. What could have been the restraint?

Because he's a wimp. 

[metisdead]

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[James Roderick]

14 hours ago, Neeranam said:

link?

What absolute rubbish. Please cite evidence for your ludicrous claim !!

[James Roderick]

21 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

They did the last election and Trump lost.

The last election wasn't that fair. If the media had reported on Hunter Biden's laptop then Trump would have certainly won. Instead the media, and particularly social media actively suppressed most stories damaging to Biden , and withheld those benefiting Trump - that was hardly fair.  

 

Edited August 5, 2023 by James Roderick

[ozimoron]

3 minutes ago, James Roderick said:

The last election wasn't that fair. If the media had reported on Hunter Biden's laptop then Trump would have certainly won. Instead the media, and particularly social media actively suppressed most stories damaging to Biden , and withheld those benefiting Trump - that was hardly fair.  

 

What was fair about helping Russia interfere with the election?

[Walker88]

From the court transcript at his arraignment in front of Magistrate Judge Upadhyaya, the judge warned trump:

 

"It is a crime to try to influence a juror or to threaten or attempt to bribe a witness or any other person who may have information about your case, or to retaliate against anyone for providing information about your case to the prosecution, or to otherwise obstruct the administration of justice."

 

The judge added a warning that if trump violated the conditions of release, “You may be held pending trial in this case.”

 

Magistrate:  “Do you understand these warnings and consequences, sir?”

 

trump: “yes.”

 

So Friday trump posts this on his ironically named "Truth Social", all in caps:

 

"IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I'M COMING AFTER YOU!"

 

That is an obvious threat, and most probably a dog whistle to his cult of goobers.  The admonition made by the Magistrate Judge "You may be held" could come into play. trump is asking to be jailed pending the trial.

 

(An aside: it's little wonder trump has trouble finding talented lawyers to defend him, both because of his reputation for not paying his bills and also because he is incapable of not shooting himself in the foot. In fact, he shoots himself in the foot, while the foot is in his mouth, and his head is up his fatuga.)

[Walker88]

6 minutes ago, James Roderick said:

The last election wasn't that fair. If the media had reported on Hunter Biden's laptop then Trump would have certainly won. Instead the media, and particularly social media actively suppressed most stories damaging to Biden , and withheld those benefiting Trump - that was hardly fair.  

 

It's possible trump's miserable handling of Covid, his advice to inject Lysol and stick a UV light up your backside, his withholding of (R) voted aid to Ukraine until Zelenskyy manufactured fake claims against Biden (despite the partisan Senate not voting to charge trump, the American people know trump was guilty), the skyrocketing debt trump was issuing (new debt of $7,800,000,000,000 under him), the abysmal rate of Unemployment (6.8%), the Recession, and trump's endless lying (30,000 while POTUS, per WaPo) and acting like a spoiled child had something to do with him getting crushed by Biden. Maybe AMericans got tired of that sort of 'so much winning'.

 

Looks like he also wasted money and put himself in legal jeopardy by breaking FEC laws when he paid off Stormy so she wouldn't speak of their affair nor would she note---as she did later---"not quite freakishly small, but well below average". trump illegally squelched that before the election, but he still got hammered by Biden.

 

As Stormy's quote tells us, trump also lied during the (R) candidate debate when---after a comment by Marco Rubio noting trump's 'tiny hands and short fingers', and what that might imply, trump said, "And he said if my hands are small, something else must be small, and I guarantee there's no problem there". Stormy says otherwise.

 

[watthong]

33 minutes ago, James Roderick said:

If the media had reported on Hunter Biden's laptop then Trump would have certainly won.

Oops, you forgot (how convenient) Stormy - of "not freakishly small but well below average" fame?

[bendejo]

I thought Garland would wait until Feb 2022 to get the ball rolling, a year into the administration.  I figured if he did it too soon it would look too banana republic, as around that time Ecuador had an election and the loser was locked up the next day.

At this point I think Smith is doing the Jan 6 case as first priority, and let the Florida case run forever.  And let the state cases (more of those to come) keep him busy.

DT will be over 80 years old when he gets to the orange jumpsuit.

 

Edited August 5, 2023 by bendejo

[watthong]

15 hours ago, Walker88 said:

About the only thing left---besides filing endless delay petitions---for trump is to claim insanity.

No he can't. There's method in his madness. His begging for "All I need is 11870 votes!" to Raffensberger totally wipes the insanity argument off the table.

I have the feeling that Trump is using his (remaining) free time to plan some sort of coup-encore. His minions probably are getting busy to help him....behind bars.
 

[candide]

52 minutes ago, James Roderick said:

The last election wasn't that fair. If the media had reported on Hunter Biden's laptop then Trump would have certainly won. Instead the media, and particularly social media actively suppressed most stories damaging to Biden , and withheld those benefiting Trump - that was hardly fair.  

 

We agree at least that Trump was not able to be elected on his own merits.

Edited August 5, 2023 by candide

[watthong]

29 minutes ago, bendejo said:

I thought Garland would wait until Feb 2022 to get the ball rolling, a year into the administration.  I figured if he did it too soon it would look too banana republic, as around that time Ecuador had an election and the loser was locked up the next day.

At this point I think Smith is doing the Jan 6 case as first priority, and let the Florida case run forever.  And let the state cases (more of those to come) keep him busy.

DT will be over 80 years old when he gets to the orange jumpsuit.

 

I tend to agree with Jingthing...Garland might have come - belatedly - to realize that he isn't up for the job as head of DOJ (age/health wise maybe or just lack of cojones).  He made amends with the assignment of Smith in my book.

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, James Roderick said:

The last election wasn't that fair. If the media had reported on Hunter Biden's laptop then Trump would have certainly won. Instead the media, and particularly social media actively suppressed most stories damaging to Biden , and withheld those benefiting Trump - that was hardly fair.  

 

Blame that on Rudy Giuliani, he obviously mistimed his attempt at creating an October surprise--plant "evidence" that looks incriminating before the election to throw doubt on one candidate but not so long before the election there is time to discredit it.  Rudy started the laptop story before there was time for reputable news organizations to investigate and report it.  Even the Washington Post wouldn't run with the story without some checks.

 

Too bad Trump didn't have someone to throw the election like FBI Director Comey did in 2016.

[newnative]

1 hour ago, James Roderick said:

The last election wasn't that fair. If the media had reported on Hunter Biden's laptop then Trump would have certainly won. Instead the media, and particularly social media actively suppressed most stories damaging to Biden , and withheld those benefiting Trump - that was hardly fair.  

 

   There were no positive stories available 'benefitting' Trump.  He's a sex offender, draft-dodging, tax dodging, serial lying, grifter.  How do you put a positive spin on that?  Of course, even harder now to come up with something.  His spray tan seems less ghastly orange?  There you go.

[nauseus]

20 hours ago, traveller101 said:

To speak politely, I describe your post above a load of horse manure.

 

Next

Then show why?

[James Roderick]

22 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Blame that on Rudy Giuliani, he obviously mistimed his attempt at creating an October surprise--plant "evidence" that looks incriminating before the election to throw doubt on one candidate but not so long before the election there is time to discredit it.  Rudy started the laptop story before there was time for reputable news organizations to investigate and report it.  Even the Washington Post wouldn't run with the story without some checks.

 

Too bad Trump didn't have someone to throw the election like FBI Director Comey did in 2016.

Are you really saying that it wasn't Hunter Biden's laptop, and all that incriminating information was fake ??