Insanitee @ Jomtien immigration.

[Marky Mark Mark]

Went today to get 30 extension on 30 day exempt entry.  Im American.   PATTAYA JOMTIEN BRANCH.

 

 

In addition to the usual they want 

4. Rental of Contract

5. House Registration (Blue Book)

6. ID Card of the Owner

 

No way in San Jose is a Joe Blow tourist from Idaho Nebraska going to be able to provide 4 5 n 6.

 

 

Any thoughts. 

[retarius]

TBH, it comes across that you sound kinda 'entitled'. Welcome to the masses mate. I/Os don't really care if you are black white or red, have a US passport or a Gambian passport, you must show respect and not irritation. If you give them any sort of attitude they'll screw you over and they have the power to do so. Be extra humble and tell them you are very sorry that you can't provide the documents, and hopefully someone will help you out.

[Bert got kinky]

This sounds like they want you to do the TM30.

https://www.immigration.go.th/en/?p=14721

 

If immigration do not have a record and proof of where you are staying, they may not give you an extension.

You do not have to provide 4, 5 & 6, your landlord does though.

 

 

Edited August 21, 2023 by Bert got kinky

[Marky Mark Mark]

They give you a little slip of paper showing what they want.

 

They want hard copies of 4, 5 ,6.  Nothing said about TM 30,  which i had.

 

So unlike Lak Si 2 months ago.

[Marky Mark Mark]

Notice how 4,5,and6 ar blue circled.

[Bert got kinky]

 

 

When you change address, you have to do the TM30 again at your new address.

The documents that Jomtien Immigration are asking for are for the TM30.

 

 

 

[Bert got kinky]

4 minutes ago, Marky Mark Mark said:

Notice how 4,5,and6 ar blue circled.

That is for the TM30.

 

[Marky Mark Mark]

Does this not qualify as my TM 30.

Im so confused.

[Bert got kinky]

11 minutes ago, Marky Mark Mark said:

Does this not qualify as my TM 30.

Im so confused.

The TM30 in your picture has not been signed by the I/O, so I don't think that it has been processed.

If you have a signed version of that form, show that to the I/O and that would cover all of the documents that they are asking for.

 

As you are staying in a hotel, the hotel should have notified Immigration already, have you asked about this with the hotel that you are staying at.

 

 

Edited August 21, 2023 by Bert got kinky

[Marky Mark Mark]

i think i know where i went wrong.    i need to turn in tm30 and get it signed then go to extension desk..............thank you

[Adumbration]

1 hour ago, retarius said:

TBH, it comes across that you sound kinda 'entitled'. Welcome to the masses mate. I/Os don't really care if you are black white or red, have a US passport or a Gambian passport, you must show respect and not irritation. If you give them any sort of attitude they'll screw you over and they have the power to do so. Be extra humble and tell them you are very sorry that you can't provide the documents, and hopefully someone will help you out.

Screw that....

[GypsyT]

Same happened to me @ Jomtien last winter.

They told "Go and get owners Book Book or something like that. PLUS TM30'.

I didn't get TM30 when I walked in on visa-free 30 day rule.

I also stayed in a hotel and had all payment receipts.

They didn't care, "Go to HOTEL Owner to get papers!"

"But the hotel is owner by an Japanese company".

"Then go to Japan!"

 

I turned, took two steps and stepped to next line and the girl who came to handle my case accepted my papers...

 

I believe they are rude to get all to use agents so they get CASH share of them...

During my waiting I saw two agents with stack of passports; first 35 pcs, then 55 pcs.

My case took over 7 hours...

[ukrules]

It's an abuse of their power to request this information from a 30 day tourist, what if you were staying in a hotel like the Four Seasons, who's ID card are they going to require then.

 

It's absolute nonsense that they ask for this.

[Marky Mark Mark]

3 hours ago, Marky Mark Mark said:

Notice how 4,5,and6 ar blue circled.

what sufficed for 4,5,6 was an expedia confirmation in hard copy form.    Remember the TM form was filled out correct.   They wanted more.   Got an approved TM 30 notifivation stamp.

 

net issue.  there was 2.5 hours till closing but i was told to show up at 8.30am tomorrow.

 

 

What is going on.

Edited August 21, 2023 by Marky Mark Mark

[BritTim]

19 minutes ago, ukrules said:

It's an abuse of their power to request this information from a 30 day tourist, what if you were staying in a hotel like the Four Seasons, who's ID card are they going to require then.

 

It's absolute nonsense that they ask for this.

If you are staying in a hotel, you do not need to submit the TM30 yourself. It is only needed when staying in private accommodation.

[freeman01]

very likely the owner where you stay didn't report to the immigration that you are staying there, hence there is something missing on the system for them and thats what they are asking.

 

try another line or another day with someone else really, nothing to lose ... immigration officers can be very lazy and annoying some time, not mentioning the horrendous level of english, some of them if they see one thing to turn you down they will do it. welcome to thailand !

[sampson]

It is a poor branch of Immigration. Usually there is total confusion and a lot of very rude officers who do not help you in any way.  A lot of shouting incoherent instructions and pointing.

 

It looks like as mentioned above, you needed the TM30 form to be completed to get the extension, which I assume is technically the correct protocol.  The hotel should have done this for you but many of them don't bother.  If you're going to immigration the next day I would always check with the hotel, some will just say "can not" which means they aren't going to do it because they're too lazy.  Booking in at a chain style hotel will probably fix this problem and ensure  the TM30 is done.

Just on a side note, they actually fine people for not having TM30 all the time at Jomtien, usually 800 baht so you actually got off light

[nickmondo]

17 hours ago, Marky Mark Mark said:

Does this not qualify as my TM 30.

Im so confused.

you are a tourist?  been here 30 days, you want another 30?  In which case, your hotel is enough.  If they dont accept they are just being total <deleted>, and I would be on the next plane to Vietnam if i were you.  But for sure, that would not have happened in Hua Hin, you would be out with your xtra 30 days in about 30 minutes.  You have to remember, Jomtien is probably the busiest and worst Immigration office in Thailand.

[nickmondo]

15 hours ago, GypsyT said:

Same happened to me @ Jomtien last winter.

They told "Go and get owners Book Book or something like that. PLUS TM30'.

I didn't get TM30 when I walked in on visa-free 30 day rule.

I also stayed in a hotel and had all payment receipts.

They didn't care, "Go to HOTEL Owner to get papers!"

"But the hotel is owner by an Japanese company".

"Then go to Japan!"

 

I turned, took two steps and stepped to next line and the girl who came to handle my case accepted my papers...

 

I believe they are rude to get all to use agents so they get CASH share of them...

During my waiting I saw two agents with stack of passports; first 35 pcs, then 55 pcs.

My case took over 7 hours...

its the worst IO in Thailand.  They only want agents who pay them their corruption money.  This will never stop in that office.  All on the take

[thailand49]

19 hours ago, Marky Mark Mark said:

Went today to get 30 extension on 30 day exempt entry.  Im American.   PATTAYA JOMTIEN BRANCH.

 

 

In addition to the usual they want 

4. Rental of Contract

5. House Registration (Blue Book)

6. ID Card of the Owner

 

No way in San Jose is a Joe Blow tourist from Idaho Nebraska going to be able to provide 4 5 n 6.

 

 

Any thoughts. 

Why not,  many seem to be able. Don't give Americans a bad name.

[retarius]

16 hours ago, ukrules said:

It's an abuse of their power to request this information from a 30 day tourist, what if you were staying in a hotel like the Four Seasons, who's ID card are they going to require then.

 

It's absolute nonsense that they ask for this.

Hotels do the reporting for you. The TM30 would be filed already.

[GypsyT]

"If you are staying in a hotel, you do not need to submit the TM30 yourself"

 

It used to be like that pre-covid. Hotels gave a copy of the report screen shot without asking. Not any more.

 

During Covid hotels mainly had locals and their attitude changed toward farangs.

Now they wanted to add 4% "processing fee" if paid by the card. That wasn't on the price list on the net. I could have used Booking etc but I don't trust them after not getting help when I had problem with a bad hotel before.

I even had hard time to get cash receipt! After handing over over 10 000B cash every 14 days I had to wait because "the person making receipt isn't here". After a few visits to the reception they gave up and I got the hand written (!) receipt.

I know very well what they were doing...

 

But you gotta accept "new rules, new attitudes" or stay out of Thailand.

So here I am; checking flight to go to get more of same ????

 

[chris carre]

17 hours ago, Marky Mark Mark said:

what sufficed for 4,5,6 was an expedia confirmation in hard copy form.    Remember the TM form was filled out correct.   They wanted more.   Got an approved TM 30 notifivation stamp.

 

net issue.  there was 2.5 hours till closing but i was told to show up at 8.30am tomorrow.

 

 

What is going on.

They don,t like like you simple as.Did you dress politly and speak to them with respct.Or walk in in short,s and a wife beater and dermand an extension.

[bbko]

I've only dealt with Jomtien IO and over the years seen many farangs walking in with an attitude or an air of rudeness only to get shot down by the person they're dealing with.

[The Patriat]

22 hours ago, Marky Mark Mark said:

Went today to get 30 extension on 30 day exempt entry.  Im American.   PATTAYA JOMTIEN BRANCH.

 

 

In addition to the usual they want 

4. Rental of Contract

5. House Registration (Blue Book)

6. ID Card of the Owner

 

No way in San Jose is a Joe Blow tourist from Idaho Nebraska going to be able to provide 4 5 n 6.

 

 

Any thoughts. 

Well sir I have a Criminal case filed against Thai immigration nationally on corruption my case is to be heard in the court in September or October 2023 this year would you like to join me to speak at my court case cause Pattaya ( Jontiem Immigration) immigration is one of the many Thai immigration locations involved named in my court case of existing corruption and I would be glad to allow you to speak the case will be heard in Laksi near or at the big courthouses that are near DSI Headquarters I am American too maybe we need to talk more I know a lot but will say most in front of a presiding judge 

[circa02]

5 hours ago, nickmondo said:

you are a tourist?  been here 30 days, you want another 30?  In which case, your hotel is enough.  If they dont accept they are just being total <deleted>, and I would be on the next plane to Vietnam if i were you.  But for sure, that would not have happened in Hua Hin, you would be out with your xtra 30 days in about 30 minutes.  You have to remember, Jomtien is probably the busiest and worst Immigration office in Thailand.

There's are other offices that also don't accept a simple hotel stay as enough to get 30 day extension. The woman upstairs at the old SP would claim that if you're staying at a hotel long time then you will have paper contract, this all happened before checking on the computer if hotel had even registered you. If you went to get an extension and didn't have some proof of registered address being recorded at immigration it was upstairs first for you...

 

 

[GypsyT]

"Well sir I have a Criminal case filed against Thai immigration nationally on corruption my case is to be heard in the court in September or October 2023 this year "

 

Wow..... that's the LAST thing you wanna do in Asia!

Write your will before you go.

 

[flexomike]

So they sat there and let you count the passport - 555

[The Patriat]

5 hours ago, thailand49 said:

Why not,  many seem to be able. Don't give Americans a bad name.

I have been abused by Thai immigration and I am speaking up for everyone I am speaking up for all retirement visa's ,business visa's and Thai wife Visa's guys I know what's going on in all immigration offices and my crimminal case has the proof submitted Thai Immigration Nationally will have to Appear in a Crimminal Court when the case is heard in September 2023 or October 2023 I have lived here since September 2006 it's become very bad at all immigration offices since March 2018 and I am speaking out about everybodies complaints and I was on a marriage visa until immigration took that away MY THAI WIFE VISA  from my passport and I am still happily married and I am still living here in Thailand and Division sends me a registered postal mail letter to sign for and the letter from Division 1 was written in Thai then translated to English ,in the contents of the letter is mainly nothing but lies of it's explanation of how immigration officers know regulation or rule or there knowledge Incase a foriegnor were to question a immigration officer about anything in relation to getting a visa stamp no matter what kind of visa stamp is requested the letter tell mostly lies and it indicated that immigration officers are respectful this is a big lie once you complain they turn and become disrespectful to us but they complain and bitch at us about showing respect to them as immigration officers and they are the first to catch the attitude of disrespect towards us ,as the old saying goes you show us respect then we in return show respect to you but in Thailand it does not happen this way as all Thai Immigration Officers think that they are always in the right ,actually there in the wrong and corrupt by the upper level in immigration Division 1 there is a Real Crimminal Case to be heard in Bangkok Crimminal Court ,details of the case will not be given here but there is plenty of evidence submitted nationally it involves most immigration office nationally the immigration office way up north like Chiang Mai or farther north are not involved but every office south of Chiang Mia to the very south of Thailand all immigration offices are all being called out on a corruption activities or events they took in to there own hands in decision make all immigration offices are not run the same as they all should do everything exactly the same and no immigration office should just be able to do just as they themselves want to do as has been occuring for the last 5 to 7 years so all corruption is to be exposed before immigration were to change everything in October regarding all visas and regulation and requirements the calendar needs to be turned back to before the year 2018 immigration is where the pointer finger is pointing at for tourism failure and for Thailand foriegn investment and Thailand economy failing and falling cause immigration is solely destroying its own country all by itself this is a know fact " Stay Tuned for the Crimminal Verdict of the immigrations Plea they will have to answer lots of Questions it's a very long list longer then a Roll of Toilet Paper too  To all Passport Holders I am Speaking out for all of US here Living in Thailand as Forignors we are being abused ,and used and taken advantage of and our money  in a local Thai bank is being abused and taken advantage of cause Thai immigration has zero banking knowledge and they don't know anything about money finances or about money investments of how real income is made or shown in reality from the entire world in a legal way such as stocks, bonds,or government bonds reality will be setting in here with in the next two months I won't give much details but if people want to be able to speak let me know as I will as for more witnesses to be able to join the court hearing ,This Message is Not a Joke and I ask the Adminisrators or moderators to keep this Post up it's a Real Case 

[The Patriat]

1 hour ago, GypsyT said:

"Well sir I have a Criminal case filed against Thai immigration nationally on corruption my case is to be heard in the court in September or October 2023 this year "

 

Wow..... that's the LAST thing you wanna do in Asia!

Write your will before you go.

 

Are you afraid the Real Truth is Coming Out Embassies know Forign Affairs in downtown Bangkok Knows and is involved in the case too they don't agree with the Current Corruption immigration nationally is currently doing for the past 5 to 6 years that's been going on People Stand Up for Your Human Right or are you going to hide in a closet or under a shell