7 hours ago, Social Media said:

I was reading from a cardiologist describing patients who had died, then come back to life

Anyone who believes this nonsense is totally deluded..  People who have 'died' don't come back to life, it's just that the medical definition for death  is flawed. A stopped heart is not death, the lack of any  brain activity, measured electrochemically is and you don't come back from a dead brain. 

 

2 hours ago, nikmar said:

i have visions of passing over and finding out that Farang pay double at the gates to the afterlife

Do they include having to leave every 90 days because Heaven doesn't have online, immigration or agents?

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

The Brain is like a car battery when it goes flat it can be recharged

Really?  How does that work then? 

6 hours ago, pomchop said:

I will promise you everlasting life. or a few virgins,

I have 'been with' a couple of virgins in my time, 3 actually, , and they weren't  near the top as the best experiences. Actually, I'm pretty sure that one of them was brain dead. 

What's the difference between 'near death' and actual death?

 

Death.

 

Anyone who has watched someone deteriorate mentally due to dementia/Alzheimers would have to live in a fantasy world to think consciousness is anything other than biochemistry. We are to believe that someone so gone, who recognizes no one, who hasn't a clue if they're dead, alive or a turnip, and who eventually forgets how to swallow, at the instant of death becomes fully cognizant again and in the prime of life?

 

I fully accept that the life I have now is the one and only, and when my brain is starved for O2 and dies, everything that I am and ever was ends right there. Entropy wins. ALl the molecules that were me---including the ones that were part of the neurons that allowed me to enjoy, build memories, feel love and other emotions, get recycled into other bits of matter. That is what makes life so precious: it's finiteness.

Just now, Doctor Tom said:

I have 'been with' a couple of virgins in my time, 3 actually, , and they weren't  near the top as the best experiences. 

How many partners a woman has doesn't matter as much as how much they love and care for you. A woman that has many will always look at her current man as the next one. One that has had a few but wasn't treated well enough to stay will look at the next man with hope. If he treats her right, she will bless him with attention. Learning by doing might seem to be the best choice, but it's desire to please that wins out. A virgin doesn't know anything at first, unless she watches porn, but she will learn from her man what he likes , and will respond if she's treated well. I've been with everything from beginners to nymphos, and it was always the ones who had just a couple partners that were the best. They weren't treated right, and they came through with good treatment.

5 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

What's the difference between 'near death' and actual death?

 

Death.

 

Anyone who has watched someone deteriorate mentally due to dementia/Alzheimers would have to live in a fantasy world to think consciousness is anything other than biochemistry. We are to believe that someone so gone, who recognizes no one, who hasn't a clue if they're dead, alive or a turnip, and who eventually forgets how to swallow, at the instant of death becomes fully cognizant again and in the prime of life?

 

I fully accept that the life I have now is the one and only, and when my brain is starved for O2 and dies, everything that I am and ever was ends right there. Entropy wins. ALl the molecules that were me---including the ones that were part of the neurons that allowed me to enjoy, build memories, feel love and other emotions, get recycled into other bits of matter. That is what makes life so precious: it's finiteness.

I agree with the first paragraph, as my best friend now has dementia. He was a heavy drinker then fell and hit his head hard, and has since been in assisted living, with days out to visit relatives. He remembers us going fishing and everything else, but can't remember that I'm still in Thailand, and he knew I was when I moved here 6 years ago. He forgets things minutes later, and I feel so bad because I remember a very intelligent man that is now going away slowly.                                                                                        As far as the second paragraph of course being a Christian I believe we go on to Heaven if we believe. I feel for people who don't believe, because they might be living their lives as good people, treating others well, but not have a belief in God for whatever reason., and not go on to Heaven when it's their time.  I'm thinking, if you just can't bring yourself to believe there is a God from lack of evidence, and not from a bad experience or loss in life that turned you away, than why would it be hard to bring yourself to accept that everything had to be made and didn't just happen, that there had to be a Creator, and if there is, that his way is right? If you actually become a true believer, you will have a good place to go when you die. If there is no God, what will you lose? It will be nothingness as some believe and it won't matter anyway. If you choose to be an atheist, and when you die and come before Him, what will you say then? I don't doubt he exists, and knowing this life and all its <deleted> will end someday, believing there is a better place with no more pain is comforting.

45 minutes ago, proton said:

Probably in hell though

Surely you are right. It’s curious that beautiful experiences like in paradise. Sensation of peace, light, heavenly souls, good and positives energies are told, but there are no experiences of visits to hell. Except the inferno of Dante ?

 

52 minutes ago, proton said:

Mother Teresa was a wicked old women who let people suffer, she was not saint and sent most of the donations to the Vatican

Have you ever met her? Thought so.

43 minutes ago, Doctor Tom said:

I have 'been with' a couple of virgins in my time, 3 actually, , and they weren't  near the top as the best experiences. Actually, I'm pretty sure that one of them was brain dead. 

I thought I was but maybe it was actually a ladyperson. 

8 hours ago, Social Media said:

It stopped me in my tracks. All my medical training told me you were either alive or dead. There was no in-between.

Can stop reading right here.

Of course there's an in-between.  It's called "dying."

Looks like somebody graduated bottom of their class.

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Have you ever met her? Thought so.

Being a Christian, it was kinda hard to believe what I heard about her. Thought she was a saint also.  This is one I found that says otherwise. Not saying it's true, but who knows without research?.............https://www.vice.com/en/article/gvzebx/mother-teresa-was-kind-of-a-heartless-bitch

11 hours ago, mania said:

Seems fair enough to say there is life before birth so why not life after death?

There is assisted life through the umbilical cord to a viable fetus after 27 weeks, but come on. not comparable.  

Death of the brain is permanent , you cannot save it by some type of man made umbilical cord.  

3 hours ago, Doctor Tom said:

I have 'been with' a couple of virgins in my time, 3 actually, , and they weren't  near the top as the best experiences. Actually, I'm pretty sure that one of them was brain dead. 

Gotcha.  You are a arrogant braggart and a Necrophiliac  Hahahahaha  Peace brother. 

I hope he’s right but I don’t expect much after I croak. ????

 

Humans have no clue as to what is really going on but we are very good at making stuff up.

_{cats however, those furry bastards, they know something...}

3 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

If you choose to be an atheist, and when you die and come before Him, what will you say then?

 

oh that's easy..

 

Oh Omnipotent One, why did you let so many nameless children with no power of their own, suffer, be tortured horribly, starved, abused in every way and then have their lives ended horribly for almost all of human history?  You are omniscient, you felt all their pain and terrifying fear up until their very ending, and you watched silently, why?

 

Yes,

Agreed.

After we die, then...

There are worms,

Which symbolizes...

Life and

Renewal.

 

  

Since he was studying people who had a near death experience (NDE), obviously all the people in his study had one.

 

However, the vast majority of people who suffer clinical death (cardiac arrest) and then are revivied, do not report a NDE.  Only about 15v - 18% do.

 

It is unknown why. But important to note that what is described here is not the norm.

5 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

It will be nothingness as some believe and it won't matter anyway. If you choose to be an atheist, and when you die and come before Him, what will you say then?

 

You're the one with all knowledge.  You know all that was, and all that ever will be.  You designed the universe.  Out of all the possibilities, you specifically chose the one where I'd be an atheist.

 

So don't blame me.  It's your plan.

 

If anyone deserves to burn in hell, it's the guy that allegedly genocided an entire planet.  Who does that?  What were the sloths and the giraffes and the baby otters guilty of?

13 hours ago, Henryford said:

Hard to believe that nutters like this are actually allowed to treat patients.

Prove him wrong you nut

19 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

You're the one with all knowledge.  You know all that was, and all that ever will be.  You designed the universe.  Out of all the possibilities, you specifically chose the one where I'd be an atheist.

 

So don't blame me.  It's your plan.

 

If anyone deserves to burn in hell, it's the guy that allegedly genocided an entire planet.  Who does that?  What were the sloths and the giraffes and the baby otters guilty of?

Hell doesnt exist.

17 minutes ago, bignok said:

Hell doesnt exist.

Well, of course not.  Neither does heaven.

We were playing what if.

 

Might as well have asked what I'd say if I came face to face with Bigfoot, or Elvis' alien clone, or a One-Eyed, One-Horned Flying Purple People Eater.

1 minute ago, NoDisplayName said:

Well, of course not.  Neither does heaven.

We were playing what if.

 

Might as well have asked what I'd say if I came face to face with Bigfoot, or Elvis' alien clone, or a One-Eyed, One-Horned Flying Purple People Eater.

 But rebirth is possible.

If a virus or parasite can jump across species why can't a human spirit jump across bodies after you die?

 

https://news.uga.edu/parasitic-worms-in-dogs-cats-may-jump-into-people/

Just now, bignok said:

If a virus or parasite can jump across species why can't a human spirit jump across bodies after you die?

 

https://news.uga.edu/parasitic-worms-in-dogs-cats-may-jump-into-people/

Parasites and worms exist in the real world.

You'd have to show some evidence of "spirits" before claiming they have the ability to hop between bodies.

11 minutes ago, bignok said:

 But rebirth is possible.

Not sufficient evidence to support this claim.

18 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

Not sufficient evidence to support this claim.

Said people about round earth, cars, planes, internet in the past

50 minutes ago, bignok said:

Hell doesnt exist.

For the existentialists on here, hell is other forum members. 

25 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

Parasites and worms exist in the real world.

You'd have to show some evidence of "spirits" before claiming they have the ability to hop between bodies.

No I dont. If you cannot prove it's impossible then it is possible.

 

Once you rule out the impossible, all you are left with is the possible.

 

This is how science works.

 

Every known theory started with someone exploring possibilities.