Air con, a fridge and sofa: Thaksin Shinawatra’s ‘VVIP’ prison life in Thailand

[kiwikeith]

16 hours ago, ChipButty said:

he obviously doesn't see himself as a criminal, 

And other criminals do not see him as a criminal either. 

[Damrongsak]

16 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

How is that "his own" hospital?

The Shinawatra family are major shareholders in Praram 9 Hospital.

[Deserted]

How long is he going to stay in hospital I wonder? About a year maybe?

[jacko45k]

15 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Or should we somehow assume Thaksin is the most sick prisoner ever?

Doubtful..... other sick prisoners can likely rot and pass with little comment. Didn't we lose a  Western prisoner not long ago. 

[Ralf001]

4 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Doubtful..... other sick prisoners can likely rot and pass with little comment. Didn't we lose a  Western prisoner not long ago. 

Other sick prisoners are obvious not filthy rich minted... Nor the EX PM.

[lordgrinz]

55 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Other sick prisoners are obvious not filthy rich minted... Nor the EX PM.

Those sick prisoners would be considered upstanding citizens compared to the likes of a corrupt criminal EX PM.

[Ralf001]

3 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

Those sick prisoners would be considered upstanding citizens compared to the likes of a corrupt criminal EX PM.

Murderers/Rapists/Kiddie Fiddlers/Drug dealers.

Are upstanding citizens in your world ?

 

Thats disgusting.

[lordgrinz]

5 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Murderers/Rapists/Kiddie Fiddlers/Drug dealers.

Are upstanding citizens in your world ?

 

Thats disgusting.

One of those murderers is Thaksin himself, don't forget his past.

[Bert got kinky]

7 hours ago, BusyB said:

Easy enough for you to arrange I'm sure.

 

I'm currently negotiating the terms of my surrender. ????

 

[lordgrinz]

23 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said:

I'm currently negotiating the terms of my surrender. ????

 

Hopefully you get a sweet helicopter ride ????????

[billd766]

11 hours ago, ujayujay said:

Thaksin Clan has done something for the Thai People? Sure.........naive Optimist

Not an optimist but a realist. He introduced the 30 baht hospital fee for starters.

 

He was also the first civilian PM to complete a full 4 year term after being elected in a free and fair election. He then stood for election again and was re-elected with an overall majority.

 

He was removed by yet another military coup.

 

Have you noticed that the military NEVER stand for election but simply forment yet another coup.

 

If you are going to comment try doing some research on the subject before making stupid comments.

[Dogmatix]

Best way for Srettha to show his new military friends he’s really sincere about upholding 112 is to urge them to proceed expeditiously with the army’s 112 case against Thaksin for accusing the Privy Council of being behind the 2014 coup. The evidence can be found in Korean TV. No amnesty or pardons for that.

[Purdey]

Thais have never seen a Scandinavian prison I guess. Television, fridge, hot and cold water etc.

The difference is one system seeks to punish, the other to reform. 

[Liverpool Lou]

6 hours ago, Damrongsak said:

23 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

How is that "his own" hospital?

The Shinawatra family are major shareholders in Praram 9 Hospital.

No, they are not, his ex-wife, Potjaman Damapong, is a 32% shareholder. 

If Thaksin or his family are shareholders they own less than 1% of the shares.

[Liverpool Lou]

14 hours ago, khaowong1 said:

23 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

How is that "his own" hospital?

His family owns it. 

Thaksin Shinawatra's family does not own it, his ex-wife, Damapong, is a 37% shareholder.  

[Liverpool Lou]

14 hours ago, bignok said:

22 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

28 to a cell nearer the mark.

You da the expert

Sorry, no, I've never "done an expert".  What does your unintelligible comment mean?

[bignok]

10 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Sorry, no, I've never "done an expert".  What does your unintelligible comment mean?

Did you met Ben Dover?

[billd766]

37 minutes ago, Dogmatix said:

Best way for Srettha to show his new military friends he’s really sincere about upholding 112 is to urge them to proceed expeditiously with the army’s 112 case against Thaksin for accusing the Privy Council of being behind the 2014 coup. The evidence can be found in Korean TV. No amnesty or pardons for that.

Then EVERY senior military officer still alive and involved in military coups going as far back as possible, should be charged with treason against the King and the state.

 

In Thailand the penalty for treason is death.

 

So in your obvious bias against Thaksin. you should also apply equal justice against the military for their illegal military coups.

 

Their is no point in applying 'justice' under the military control unless you apply iy equally.

 

That is NOT 'justice'.

 

 

[pedro01]

20 hours ago, billd766 said:

Please tell us all what punishment has been dealt to ALL the generals and senior military ranks in every military coup since 1932.

 

They not only stole the entire country every time but the treasury and the justice system.

 

How can anybody believe in justice after that?

 

Of course Thaksin was charged with corruption and found guilty.

 

It was a foregone conclusion after the coup, but would he have been charged and convicted under a free and independent judiciary?

 

Why were none over the military convicted for treason for each military coup?

 

I would be very happy to see equal justice for Thaksin if everybody was treated equally. But they are not, and while the military are ever present, the rules will not change.

would he have been convicted by an independent judiciary?

 

One case was a government loan to Myanmar for a billion dollars at rates that caused a loss on the loan. The money was for telecomms equipment from Thaksins company. I think for that case, the answer is yes, an independent court would likely have found him guilty. 

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, bignok said:

4 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Sorry, no, I've never "done an expert".  What does your unintelligible comment mean?

Did you met Ben Dover?

Did I "met" Ben Dover?   There's another one of those comments...what does "Did you met.." mean?

[anchadian]

Senator Tawin Pleansri warned the new government that if they continue to allow blatant inequality in the so-called incarceration of former PM Thaksin Shinawatra, it could lead to more conflict in the future.

 

"Do not keep trampling on the feelings of the entire country until they can no longer accept it because it could lead to a major problem," he said.

 

He said the government's promise to uphold the rule of law would mean nothing if they still permit wealthy and influential individuals to undermine the justice system, such as the delays in the prosecution against former culture minister Itthiphol Khunpluem, the special privileges granted to inmate Thaksin, and the Red Bull heir case.

 

He urged the government not to use the excuse that they are only following regulations because people can see through such claims.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1701504146686595224

 

[bignok]

46 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Did I "met" Ben Dover?   There's another one of those comments...what does "Did you met.." mean?

Sorry you don't understand anything

[billd766]

1 hour ago, pedro01 said:

would he have been convicted by an independent judiciary?

 

One case was a government loan to Myanmar for a billion dollars at rates that caused a loss on the loan. The money was for telecomms equipment from Thaksins company. I think for that case, the answer is yes, an independent court would likely have found him guilty. 

But we will never know as there is no independent court, though there may possibly be under the new government.

 

I seriously doubt that though as it could involve too many influential people and departments.

[billd766]

49 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Senator Tawin Pleansri warned the new government that if they continue to allow blatant inequality in the so-called incarceration of former PM Thaksin Shinawatra, it could lead to more conflict in the future.

 

"Do not keep trampling on the feelings of the entire country until they can no longer accept it because it could lead to a major problem," he said.

 

He said the government's promise to uphold the rule of law would mean nothing if they still permit wealthy and influential individuals to undermine the justice system, such as the delays in the prosecution against former culture minister Itthiphol Khunpluem, the special privileges granted to inmate Thaksin, and the Red Bull heir case.

 

He urged the government not to use the excuse that they are only following regulations because people can see through such claims.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1701504146686595224

 

It could equally be said of ALL the appointed and not elected senators, including Senator Tawin Pleansri.

 

"Do not keep trampling on the feelings of the entire country until they can no longer accept it because it could lead to a major problem," he said.

[AgMech Cowboy]

On 9/11/2023 at 9:59 AM, webfact said:

special treatment

I wouldn't expect anything less. Not that it's right. That's just the way things work.

[pedro01]

32 minutes ago, billd766 said:

But we will never know as there is no independent court, though there may possibly be under the new government.

 

I seriously doubt that though as it could involve too many influential people and departments.

This is a good point

[khaowong1]

Liverpool Lou seems to be the expert here, on everything, so I suggest we shut up and let him do all the commenting,  

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, bignok said:

6 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Did I "met" Ben Dover?   There's another one of those comments...what does "Did you met.." mean?

Sorry you don't understand anything

Shame I only understand intelligible English.

[bignok]

19 minutes ago, khaowong1 said:

Liverpool Lou seems to be the expert here, on everything, so I suggest we shut up and let him do all the commenting,  

Yet he can't understand English.

[RobU]

On 9/11/2023 at 1:01 PM, Bim Smith said:

"oxygen levels in his fingertips were low." Is this a new condition? 

Pulse oximetry is taken at the finger tips. What they mean is that his oxygen saturation levels were very low probably below 90% which means he could have died in prison if not treated. He probably has a severe pulmonary disorder or severe congestive heart failure. This answers the question why he came back. He wanted to come home before he died.