How to throw out my girlfriend's son out of the house?

[organicman]

I've been with my Thai girlfriend for over 5 years now. The youngest son is an angel while the older son (27 years old) is a pain in the ass. My Thai girlfriend fights with him all the time. He use to live in Bangkok but has moved back home to Kalasin and causing problems. My Thai girlfriend wants him kick out of the house. My question is, if it becomes physically with me and him, will I get into trouble with the police? I hear the police won't get involved in removing him from my Thai girlfriend's house (it's a family matter) so what will happen if I physically remove him from the house? I have a martial art background and he is tiny to the size of me. We will be flying back to Thailand soon. 

Edited September 12, 2023 by organicman

[mania]

13 minutes ago, organicman said:

I have a martial art background and he is tiny to the size of me.

In Thailand there are WAY more guns than most think.

How big is your martial arts background compared to a bullet in your head?

He then claims self defense & your soon forgotten

 

TIT not your fight nor your business Thai Rak Thai ...don't get in the middle

Edited September 12, 2023 by mania

[BritManToo]

Easy way 

1 don't come back if he's there.

2 come back but live at least 500km away.

 

Rent in Chiang Mai or Hua Hin.

 

 

Edited September 12, 2023 by BritManToo

[steven100]

As Mania mentioned,    it would be very risky and dangerous for you if a physical fight ensued.

He has friends with guns under their motorbike seats,  it'd be nothing to him to have you out of the picture, he's not worried about going to jail for that.  

TIT .... 

If you get into an altercation he's likely to call the police and they will side with the Thai ....  you could end up in jail and charged with assault if they believe his story and not yours.

 

Move ....  as far away as you can.  

[FritsSikkink]

24 minutes ago, mania said:

In Thailand there are WAY more guns than most think.

How big is your martial arts background compared to a bullet in your head?

He then claims self defense & your soon forgotten

 

TIT not your fight nor your business Thai Rak Thai ...don't get in the middle

It is his fight as he is in the same house. Be a man, not a mouse.

[JeffersLos]

Not your house. Not your family. Not your town. Not your country.

 

Come back to Thailand and rent a condo in Phuket for 3 months for just you. No support, financial or other to anyone, GF included. 

 

I'm sorry if you're one of the Westerners that bought a house in rural Thailand for their teerak. 

[FritsSikkink]

Easiest way is to change the locks when he is away. First make sure you can lock all entrances.

Edited September 12, 2023 by FritsSikkink

[JeffersLos]

Perhaps it's the end move of their play.

 

Get the Westerner to move out and away on his own terms. 

[VocalNeal]

It is his mother's house. Ergo home. You are the interloper. The locals, monks etc. will have to sort it out. 

She should ask him when he is going to leave.

[FritsSikkink]

10 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

Not your house. Not your family. Not your town. Not your country.

 

Come back to Thailand and rent a condo in Phuket for 3 months for just you. No support, financial or other to anyone, GF included. 

 

I'm sorry if you're one of the Westerners that bought a house in rural Thailand for their teerak. 

Must be sad having to be on the run every time you get some problem.

[Ohyesuare]

No need to resort to violence. If Thai girlfriend wants him out and she solely owns the property, try the police. Maybe police can be incentivized somehow to remove him. But again, unless it's in self defense, don't touch him. Even in self defense, it's risky for you for the reasons others have said.

[Shop mak]

As a foreigner, you stay out of it.

Girlfriend should go to local police station, ask for help to evict him, and maybe make a contribution as intensive

 

@ThaiLawOnlinemaybe Sebastien can inform you of the legal aspect, so you avoid problems

 

[organicman]

33 minutes ago, mania said:

In Thailand there are WAY more guns than most think.

How big is your martial arts background compared to a bullet in your head?

He then claims self defense & your soon forgotten

 

TIT not your fight nor your business Thai Rak Thai ...don't get in the middle

The son has no criminal history or history of violence at all. It's a real step to commit violence let alone pull a trigger. I understand Thailand is run by the mafia but this is back in the village. 

 

26 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Easy way 

1 don't come back if he's there.

2 come back but live at least 500km away.

 

Rent in Chiang Mai or Hua Hin.

 

 

This is the most stupid thing I've ever read. It's the mother's house not the son's house! The younger son wants to come home to remove him from the house too. I was thinking about going to a local Muay Thai gym and hiring some Thai muscle to have him removed cause I know Farangs have no rights when it comes to the Thai police. The more witnesser the better where we have support from other family members in the village too. I like to take control in matters like this and not be in the side line like a pussy. 

 

We are in Australia at the moment where my Thai girlfriend has told him to leave 2 months ago when he move back home but he hasn't cause he knows we aren't in the country.

 

The other option is we can move back into the house where my Thai girlfriend will be yelling at him all day long like she does hence in the end, he will move out. He doesn't usually stay for long for Songkran cause of my Thai girlfriend yelling in rage at him. He feels intimated around me hence he will feel even more uncomfortable in the house with us. 

[FritsSikkink]

Ignore all the negative posts. They never stood up for themselves and are scared.

Have a talk with him first and TELL him to behave or he goes out on his backside and you will change the locks.

[Andre0720]

Something similar happened to me some years ago. But it was between me and my Thai GF.

She had another BF when I was back home for some months. When I came back, I asked her to leave. She said that she was not leaving the apartment, and that she wanted ME to go, and leave everything behind, furniture and all.

 

So one day, I changed the locks, put all of her stuff on the veranda outside, and left to sleep in a rented room for the night.

I got a call in the morning, she was asking if I did put her stuff outside, and changed the locks, rather than the owner I suppose. I answered that I did put her stuff outside. She told me that I was in big trouble, and that the police was outside waiting for me.

So I went to the apartment, greeted by 4 policemen. We went together to the owner, and the police asked the owner, 'Who rented the apartment, and who pays the rent?". He replied: "Falang''.

They went back to the apartment with a pick-up truck, put al her stuff in the back of the pick-up, and asked my gf where she wanted her stuff sent.

My GF thought for sure that the police would side with her, no matter what....

[organicman]

3 minutes ago, Shop mak said:

Girlfriend should go to local police station, ask for help to evict him, and maybe make a contribution as intensive

She said the Thai police won't get involved cause they class it as a family matter. They stay out of things like this. It's not like how it is in how home country. 

[steven100]

23 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

It is his fight as he is in the same house. Be a man, not a mouse.

yes ...  escalate the situation more so a fight breaks out

yeah'    that'll  work Frits                  what could possibly go wrong  !!

[bkk6060]

Your gf is about 50?

Find a younger one without these problems.

[organicman]

26 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Easiest way is to change the locks when he is away. First make sure you can lock all entrances.

That's a great idea!! When he goes to work, we can change the locks and remove his stuff from the house. Thank you!

[FritsSikkink]

3 minutes ago, Andre0720 said:

Something similar happened to me some years ago. But it was between me and my Thai GF.

She had another BF when I was back home for some months. When I came back, I asked her to leave. She said that she was not leaving the apartment, and that she wanted ME to go, and leave everything behind, furniture and all.

 

So one day, I changed the locks, put all of her stuff on the veranda outside, and left to sleep in a rented room for the night.

I got a call in the morning, she was asking if I did put her stuff outside, and changed the locks, rather than the owner I suppose. I answered that I did put her stuff outside. She told me that I was in big trouble, and that the police was outside waiting for me.

So I went to the apartment, greeted by 4 policemen. We went together to the owner, and the police asked the owner, 'Who rented the apartment, and who pays the rent?". He replied: "Falang''.

They went back to the apartment with a pick-up truck, put al her stuff in the back of the pick-up, and asked my gf where she wanted her stuff sent.

My GF thought for sure that the police would side with her, no matter what....

All the people who say that the police never sides with a foreigner, haven't got a clue what they are talking about. Just barstool knowledge.

[Gecko123]

One thing the OP may not be fully aware of is that in Thai rural culture, long since emancipated children are free to return to the parental homestead, and unless there is a really, really compelling reason to kick them out, nobody ever says a word. I have seen this happen many times, i.e., Somchai gets out of jail, loses his job, gets divorced. It sounds like his mother's house is all the more attractive for squatting because she is frequently absent, and a mentality that she has "another house" has set in. Don't know what to tell you about how to handle this situation, but absolutely do not get into a physical altercation with this guy. Possible drug use, Oedipal undercurrents you may not be fully aware of, retaliation by proxy, etc., are just a few of the reasons why. Let your wife take the lead on this, and try to negotiate a resolution.

[FritsSikkink]

3 minutes ago, steven100 said:

yes ...  escalate the situation more so a fight breaks out

yeah'    that'll  work Frits                  what could possibly go wrong  !!

I have had loads of fights in my life, have a martial arts background same as the OP and used to do a bit of moonlighting as a bouncer in the Amsterdam Red light area. Solved quite a few issues in Thailand too. 

I am still around and get a lot of respect of Thai people as they know I am not a mouse who runs away when there is a little bit of noise around the corner.

[thaibeachlovers]

38 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

It is his fight as he is in the same house. Be a man, not a mouse.

Do you actually know what goes on in Thailand? Apparently not.

 

OP it's not your business. If she wants him out that's down to her.

 

I had the same problem with my wife's nephew. I got divorced, which solved that problem for me. Otherwise not a damn thing I could do except moan about him to her.

[Hummin]

Just tell him face to face to pack up and leave before you guys comes home. Do you understand what the mom really say to him? 

 

And if not moved when you guys arrive, pack up his things and send him out. Should not be necessary to be violent. If not happening, I would carry him out, simple as that. Still not necessary to execute violence if you know your martial art and your physics.

 

No matter what your gf says, police will help, but it I more about face than anything else.

[BritManToo]

15 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

All the people who say that the police never sides with a foreigner, haven't got a clue what they are talking about. Just barstool knowledge.

The police in that story sided with the Thai landlord. Always best to maneuver conflicts into Thai Vs Thai, only fools fight their own battles.

[Gecko123]

3 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

I have had loads of fights in my life, have a martial arts background same as the OP and used to do a bit of moonlighting as a bouncer in the Amsterdam Red light area. Solved quite a few issues in Thailand too. 

I am still around and get a lot of respect of Thai people as they know I am not a mouse who runs away when there is a little bit of noise around the corner.

There's also been a lot of tough guys who have ended up on a morgue slab. You're whipping the OP into this macho frenzy. The interloper is his wife's son, so will be in her life for the duration. Does the  OP really want someone like this giving him the evil eye every time he sees you? Do you really want to be worrying about someone accidentally-on-purpose running you over with his pickup truck every time you go for a walk? Evicting him? Locking him out of the house? What do you imagine is going to happen? He's just going to slink off into the sunset, never to be seen again? No, he'll be back, probably with an even bigger chip on his shoulder and nursing a grudge for life. That's why I say no way the OP should take the lead on this. He'll eventually forgive his mother if there's any hard feelings. The OP? Revenge time.

[steven100]

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Do you actually know what goes on in Thailand? Apparently not.

 

OP it's not your business. If she wants him out that's down to her.

 

I had the same problem with my wife's nephew. I got divorced, which solved that problem for me. Otherwise not a damn thing I could do except moan about him to her.

absolutely agree ... TIT ... hillbillies will do anything here.

[thaibeachlovers]

7 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Just tell him face to face to pack up and leave before you guys comes home. Do you understand what the mom really say to him? 

 

And if not moved when you guys arrive, pack up his things and send him out. Should not be necessary to be violent. If not happening, I would carry him out, simple as that. Still not necessary to execute violence if you know your martial art and your physics.

 

No matter what your gf says, police will help, but it I more about face than anything else.

and when he comes back with 10 of his mates??????????????????

[transam]

1 minute ago, organicman said:

Hehe, she in her mid 40s now where I never wanted a relationship cause I enjoy picking up women all the time. I desire girls in their 20s where I told her she was too old for me. She keep chasing me for years on end while I was with other girls. She use to get jealous but I told her we aren't together but she has accepted me being with other girls now and will do anything for me. I've never had to pay for sex from a girl before where I'm in my early 40s now where I know I'm coming out of my prime in picking up younger women. I had some health problems some years ago and she was there without question. If I'm feeling depressed, she would catch the next plane or bus and come see me. She does anything for me which is hard to find these days. She really looks after me where we can go party and she allows me to be with other Thai girls now hence why I got into a relationship with her. All my friends love her and and my parents and have advise me to not let her go. I've dated a lot of women in my years where I'm not stupid to let my dick to the thinking for me.  

 

I've never seen her cry so much the last week cause of her son where I never got involved with any matters with her family before. I've never seen her so depressed in the 5 years I've know her where she has been there for me and I want to return the favour in kick her son out of the house so she is happy again. 

You sound like a good catch.......................????.......................????

[scubascuba3]

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