I had a favorite bread shop on Soi Buakhao but I'm sure there's a witch working there, such a nasty woman.

 

So, I tried the whole wheat bread from Makro.

OMG, it's sweetened, I can taste the sugar.
These idiots, putting sugar in whole wheat/wholegrain bread, it really ticks me OFF.

 

Anyone else tasting the sweetened bread 

And it is likely 60-70% white flour, with very, very low quality, highly toxic cooking oil or shortening.

10 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

And it is likely 60-70% white flour, with very, very low quality, highly toxic cooking oil or shortening.

Oil or shortening in bread?

16 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I had a favorite bread shop on Soi Buakhao but I'm sure there's a witch working there, such a nasty woman.

 

So, I tried the whole wheat bread from Makro.

OMG, it's sweetened, I can taste the sugar.
These idiots, putting sugar in whole wheat/wholegrain bread, it really ticks me OFF.

 

Anyone else tasting the sweetened bread 

Yes tried it, not to my taste.

 

I rather doubt the Makro bakery staff have much knowledge of bread types etc. 

The bread in Makro Big C etc is all made for Thai tastes, packed with sugar, salt  and who knows what else, i tried it but no way, made my own for a while but found a bakery that does a decent loaf, unfortunately it is in Bangkok

Makro whole wheat is OK for toast or grilled cheese.  Try spread or load anything up on it untoasted, and it flattens out.

@SAFETY FIRST

Try the Royal breads, thick slices, 3 version; white, wheat, whole wheat (seeds).

9 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Makro whole wheat is OK for toast or grilled cheese.  Try spread or load anything up on it untoasted, and it flattens out.

@SAFETY FIRST

Try the Royal breads, thick slices, 3 version; white, wheat, whole wheat (seeds).

I would say don't try the Royal brand.....or at least read, and understand, the nutritional information first - then decide.

 

I am told that MAKRO Kraftkorn bread is pretty good, but I haven't tried it yet  

49 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I had a favorite bread shop on Soi Buakhao but I'm sure there's a witch working there, such a nasty woman.

 

So, I tried the whole wheat bread from Makro.

OMG, it's sweetened, I can taste the sugar.
These idiots, putting sugar in whole wheat/wholegrain bread, it really ticks me OFF.

 

Anyone else tasting the sweetened bread 

Go to Foodland on Klang. 
Makro is not for the discerning 

Have you tried Continental Bakery Soi Excite? probably the best around, staff are friendly

Buy a bread maker and make your own.

In my local Makro I look at the manufacted date. They now turn their lables to the bottom. I turned a few around and it was 2 days old. So I turned a few more over so everyone can see. This was a week ago. 

whole wheat is not healthy for the body.

 

even without the added crap they put in that bread, whole wheat is not a health food.

 

now the OP will accuse me of harassing him. 

 

 

1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I had a favorite bread shop on Soi Buakhao but I'm sure there's a witch working there, such a nasty woman.

 

So, I tried the whole wheat bread from Makro.

OMG, it's sweetened, I can taste the sugar.
These idiots, putting sugar in whole wheat/wholegrain bread, it really ticks me OFF.

 

Anyone else tasting the sweetened bread 

You could try asking the baker to make a special unsugared loaf for you. Failing that you could try buying bread at another bakery store.

 

Or you could buy the ingredients and mix them up and make your own whole wheat bread, be it in a pot, oven or breadmaker machine.

 

Thats all I can suggest to overcome this dilemma.

1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I'm sure there's a witch working there, such a nasty woman.

How much interaction do you need to walk in, get the item(s) you want and pay for them?

1 hour ago, bkk6060 said:

Buy a bread maker and make your own.

4 cups of bread flour, 320mil of water,  2 teaspoons of oil, salt to taste, 1/2 sachet of dried yeast.

 

5 minutes in a bowl with the dough hook on your cheap as chips mixer from Lazada. Cover the bowl with a 7/11 carrier bag and leave it in the sun for an hour. Put the mix into one of those rubber loaf tins, and give it 30 minutes in the space ship oven (halogen oven).

 

1 loaf costs about half what a Macro/ Lotus/ Farmhouse loaf does. You control the salt content, you can add sugar if you like. If I am feeling exotic I sometimes add a dash of honey.

34 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

4 cups of bread flour, 320mil of water,  2 teaspoons of oil, salt to taste, 1/2 sachet of dried yeast.

 

5 minutes in a bowl with the dough hook on your cheap as chips mixer from Lazada. Cover the bowl with a 7/11 carrier bag and leave it in the sun for an hour. Put the mix into one of those rubber loaf tins, and give it 30 minutes in the space ship oven (halogen oven).

 

1 loaf costs about half what a Macro/ Lotus/ Farmhouse loaf does. You control the salt content, you can add sugar if you like. If I am feeling exotic I sometimes add a dash of honey.

You had me until the 'rubber loaf tin' - explain please. ????

7 minutes ago, hughrection said:

You had me until the 'rubber loaf tin' - explain please. ????

The pan is made of heat resistant rubber just as good as Teflon pads for cooking non stick is easy to  clean 21st century 

I am diabetic and hate the bread in Thailand. There are very few places one can get any decent bread and it is all laden with sugar. When I first came here a million years ago, for a short while I was able to get great German wholewheat bread. Delicious, heavy, filling bread with no sugar. Sadly the shop closed down and has never been replaced.

11 minutes ago, retarius said:

I am diabetic and hate the bread in Thailand. There are very few places one can get any decent bread and it is all laden with sugar. When I first came here a million years ago, for a short while I was able to get great German wholewheat bread. Delicious, heavy, filling bread with no sugar. Sadly the shop closed down and has never been replaced.

Simply make your own, as it's one of the easiest things to bake;

flour

yeast

salt

water

No special appliances or tools, just something to bake it in.

Since many, many years I order my dark (healthy)  German bread from a German Bakery in Chiang Mai. I enjoy the High quality, excellent service. etc. Google: Jo's Bakery.

 

Because i live 4 hours (by car) away of Chiang Mai I order it by telephone at least 2 days before Saturday (his baking day) and get it delivered very freshly by the public minibius in the late afternoon. In general I order 10 kg (~20 packages with 8-9 slices) and put them in the icebox of our fridge.

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

whole wheat is not healthy for the body.

 

even without the added crap they put in that bread, whole wheat is not a health food.

 

now the OP will accuse me of harassing him. 

 

 

Go on then, I’ll bite. Let’s hear it. 
 

Related to this? https://www.self.com/story/whole-grains-antinutrients

3 hours ago, KannikaP said:

Oil or shortening in bread?

I use lard in my barm cakes.

Not my photo, but mine are just as good ...

1 hour ago, hughrection said:

You had me until the 'rubber loaf tin' - explain please.

They're probably made of silicon, not rubber.  I have both bread and muffin pans in silicon but have been without an oven until recently.  Soon, I'll resume making bread but this time without an automatic bread machine.

Not seeing any negatives with bread flour, though it does act as a conveyence of the unhealthy stuff you might put on it.

 

"Nutrition

Bread flour is a significant source of nutrition. It offers energy, protein and nutrients that are either inherent or added during processing. Bread flour is low in cholesterol and saturated fatty acids.

1 cup / 120 grams, contains:

• Calories:  455
• Carbohydrates: 95.3 g
• Protein: 12.91 g
• Fat: 1.22 g
• Fiber
• Vitamins (thaimin, folate, selenium,   )"

2 hours ago, NextG said:

Go on then, I’ll bite. Let’s hear it. 
 

Related to this? https://www.self.com/story/whole-grains-antinutrients

Your article concedes that whole grains contain anti-nutrients, but then concludes that if you are getting sufficient vitamins and minerals, it's not a major issue.

 

It could be, I guess. The human body is so complex, so I will not say that I know for a fact that these anti-nutrients are not causing major problems. 

 

But you should at least keep track of how many foods with anti-nutrients you are consuming daily, and at some point realize that the math won't add up in your benefit. 

 

One guy referenced a study in which whole wheat bread and beans were consumed with oysters and very little or none of the zinc from the oysters was absorbed. (but don't quote me on that ...)

 

6 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Not seeing any negatives with bread flour, though it does act as a conveyence of the unhealthy stuff you might put on it.

 

"Nutrition

Bread flour is a significant source of nutrition. It offers energy, protein and nutrients that are either inherent or added during processing. Bread flour is low in cholesterol and saturated fatty acids.

1 cup / 120 grams, contains:

• Calories:  455
• Carbohydrates: 95.3 g
• Protein: 12.91 g
• Fat: 1.22 g
• Fiber
• Vitamins (thaimin, folate, selenium,   )"

Yep, I don't use butter or margarine anymore, i bet most ofthe guys on this thread cover it

12 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

4 cups of bread flour, 320mil of water,  2 teaspoons of oil, salt to taste, 1/2 sachet of dried yeast.

Love the different measurements, 1 CUP, 320ml, 2 tsps., 1/2 sachet.

Only the 320 ml can be accurate.

9 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Not seeing any negatives with bread flour, though it does act as a conveyence of the unhealthy stuff you might put on it.

 

"Nutrition

Bread flour is a significant source of nutrition. It offers energy, protein and nutrients that are either inherent or added during processing. Bread flour is low in cholesterol and saturated fatty acids.

1 cup / 120 grams, contains:

• Calories:  455
• Carbohydrates: 95.3 g
• Protein: 12.91 g
• Fat: 1.22 g
• Fiber
• Vitamins (thaimin, folate, selenium,   )"

What is the difference between All Purpose, Bread and Cake flours please?

They cannot be 'BAD' for you as they are basically wholemeal flour with things taken out, so not quite as 'GOOD' for you.

15 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Makro whole wheat is OK for toast or grilled cheese

I reckon it's only good for honey or jam sandwiches, it's foul. 

 

I enjoy the occasional beer.

 

Some days if I've had a few beers I like a few slices of toasted bread with vegemite, nothing better ????????

Can't do it on sweetened bread, bloody UnAustralian. 

I remember when I first arrived in Thailand, buying the bread from 7-Eleven, same sugary crap.
 

13 hours ago, bbko said:

How much interaction do you need to walk in, get the item(s) you want and pay for them?

To start the day with her toxic attitude is not for me. 

 

I do understand that there are those of you who enjoy and thrive on this toxicity but I steer clear.