Thaksin Shinawatra's Medical Care Sparks Concerns

[Aussie999]

3 hours ago, retarius said:

Well said. Too many idiots wanna be doctors putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 56.

Nah mate... 22, something wrong in how you put numbers together.

Edited September 30, 2023 by Aussie999

[Spock]

What a crock of s....

[PeachCH]

May I remember, that Khun Thaksin has one big, very powerful friend, who will and has helped him. 

[Kerryd]

It makes you wonder why they even bother with the subterfuge ? Why not just grant him a full pardon and then appoint him as PM again ? Then he wouldn't have to dance around to get all his accounts and money unfrozen and could have his revenge on the people that tried to put him in prison in the first place.

That's literally how it looks like this is playing out anyways.

[paul1804]

The longer I stay in Thailand the more I realise that telling "porkies" is a cultural habit!

[scorecard]

"...He also emphasized that those casting doubts on Thaksin's medical condition should refrain from questioning the authenticity of his ailment, as the government is adhering to legal and ethical principles...."

 

In other words the public are not allowed to have an opinion or ask questions.

 

One minute away from a police state.

[TheFishman1]

The day before he arrives in Thailand he was at a big party in Cambodia now he’s been in the hospital very long time. This whole thing about him needing to be in the hospital with a joke TIT.

[off road pat]

7 hours ago, Deserted said:

Thaksin has got friends it seems.

Yes indeed,...but he has enemies as well !!!

[off road pat]

1 hour ago, Kerryd said:

It makes you wonder why they even bother with the subterfuge ? Why not just grant him a full pardon and then appoint him as PM again ? Then he wouldn't have to dance around to get all his accounts and money unfrozen and could have his revenge on the people that tried to put him in prison in the first place.

That's literally how it looks like this is playing out anyways.

Hm,...Looks like Thailand needs another coup !?!?

[bizboi]

42 minutes ago, off road pat said:

Hm,...Looks like Thailand needs another coup !?!?

Much as I didn’t agree with the last five I think this time it really does!!!! Maybe it will MOVE the country FORWARD!!!!!

Edited September 30, 2023 by bizboi
Want to add a point

[BenStark]

2 hours ago, Kerryd said:

It makes you wonder why they even bother with the subterfuge ? Why not just grant him a full pardon and then appoint him as PM again ? Then he wouldn't have to dance around to get all his accounts and money unfrozen and could have his revenge on the people that tried to put him in prison in the first place.

That's literally how it looks like this is playing out anyways.

I think a certain frog knew he time at the helm had passed, and he went for a loaded bank account instead

[Skeptic7]

2 hours ago, newnative said:

What a load of _______.

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[Skeptic7]

2 hours ago, newnative said:

What a load of _______.

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[PETERTHEEATER]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

........ensuring compliance with international agreements that proscribe torture and ensure the safety of those detained.......

Good. Please release a press statement revealing the result of the torture. Was the gold or platinum cattleprod used?

[stix40]

Jeez what a farce !

Might as well let him do what he pleases, because he his going todo anyway.

All this charade ain't fooling nobody.

Corrupt system from top to bottom.

Any way back to me chicken in a basket with somtam sticky rice , beer lao Dark ! 

[Humpy]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

''the paramount importance of upholding the law''

...... a bit like Thaksin did , you mean ?

[ChipButty]

3 hours ago, PeachCH said:

May I remember, that Khun Thaksin has one big, very powerful friend, who will and has helped him. 

Thai people have a good idea who it is, Im not saying here 

[connda]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

Police Lieutenant General Thawee, who supervises the Ministry of Justice, emphasized that every inmate possesses the entitlement to receive suitable medical attention

Really?  I distinctly remember many years back that a elderly foreigner in lockup was essentially in a vegetative state pretty much lying in his own excrement, and literally had to be rescued by media-shaming the authorities. 

"Suitable medical attention?"  Suitable for whom?
Luxury hospital suites for some, acetaminophen and a glass of fetid water for the less entitled?  For some reason it doubt the veracity of the statement. 
 

10 hours ago, webfact said:

Police Lieutenant General Thawee underscored the significance of conforming to global standards for the treatment of detainees, ensuring compliance with international agreements that proscribe torture and ensure the safety of those detained.

"Areas where prisoners faced ongoing challenges included: crowded and inadequate conditions of accommodation; cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment and punishment; unsanitary conditions; extremely poor quality of food and drinking water; inadequate access to healthcare; exploitative work; limited contacts with the outside world; lack of recreational and rehabilitative activities; and ineffective complaint procedures. In addition, independent human rights organizations’ access to prisons to monitor conditions continued to be unduly restricted."
- International Federation for Human Rights, March 2023

Edited September 30, 2023 by connda

[connda]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

He confirmed that the right to seek medical treatment or temporary release is accessible to all prisoners.

But granted for whom?  Everyone?  Or primarily the wealthy and connected? 
Most villages have a number of people who have been imprisoned.  Mostly for yaba busts.  Therefore most Thais who know someone who has been in the Thai prison system knows exactly how that system functions.  And most people therefore understand that Thaksin's treatment is a Sigma-9 outlier.  The lack of transparency creates more distrust.  Just saying.  It ain't rocket science.

 

-- or --

Pick up a book by one of those farangs who spent time within the Thai penal system and lived to write about their 'adventures.'  Yeah - everyone get the same quality healthcare.  Right.

Edited September 30, 2023 by connda

[phetpeter]

I don't believe that they should be allowed to use doctor patient as the reason, why? because they have already stated their clinical reasons for his attendance at the hospital. So giving updates to his condition is very much in the public and legal systems interest. It was enough for them to state why he needed to go into hospital, so, it should be expected to give updated information of his situation now, explaining treatment given and his present condition, otherwise people will consider that someone or others is falsely stating and covering up the truth. Sooner or later the truth will come out and someone will pay with their freedom for this. If he wants to turnover a new leaf, then e should come clean and serve his time.

[connda]

3 minutes ago, phetpeter said:

If he wants to turnover a new leaf, then e should come clean and serve his time.

Yeah.  Do a year in GenPop and when he gets out he may have earned some respect from average Thais.
But?
That ain't going to ever happen and virtually everyone in Thailand, Thai and foreigners, know that.

[billd766]

10 hours ago, smedly said:

OMG

 

LMAO

 

does he think people are stupid ?

 

a few pills for hypertension 

 

put him back in jail

Do you personally know what medical conditions Thaksin has?

 

Are you a MD who is fully qualified?

 

Have you seen all of Thaksin's medical files?

 

Have you done a full medical examination of Thaksin?

 

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

[bamnutsak]

In the days immediately following Thaksin's return we heard many, many details of his health issues.

 

"heart and lung, four underlying issues", etc.

 

But now, all of sudden his privacy is used to cover up this sham.

 

They truly think the masses are buffaloes,

 

 

Interestingly he looked quite chipper on his G650 in flight from SIN.

 

 

 

 

[kidneyw]

At this rate, Thaksin might get compensation for the twelve hours he spent in the slammer.

[smedly]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

Do you personally know what medical conditions Thaksin has?

 

Are you a MD who is fully qualified?

 

Have you seen all of Thaksin's medical files?

 

Have you done a full medical examination of Thaksin?

 

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

it was reported that he went to hospital with high blood pressure, I would think he has a a very good health plan and was well aware of any issues before entering Thailand 

[sambum]

12 hours ago, ezzra said:

I stick my neck out here to say that this minister not impartial and really think that all other 50K prisoners needing medical care get the same treatments Thaksin get i.e personal care and attention, private rooms and prolong stay at the hospital...

".........not impartial and really think that all other 50K prisoners needing medical care get the same treatments Thaksin get......."

I get your drift, but I think the words "do not" should be inserted between "care" and "get"! Just sayin'!

[Mr Meeseeks]

4 hours ago, bizboi said:

Much as I didn’t agree with the last five I think this time it really does!!!! Maybe it will MOVE the country FORWARD!!!!!

It has never worked before, no reason to think it will now.

 

Just more spoiled children fighting other spoiled children. Nothing will change. 

[cncltd1973]

12 hours ago, webfact said:

refrain from questioning the authenticity

so we should definitely question the authenticity then. why would a mega millionaire quit freedom abroad and decide to languish and possibly die in a thai jail? or is he just more stupid than the red bull boss?

[Deserted]

8 hours ago, cncltd1973 said:

so we should definitely question the authenticity then. why would a mega millionaire quit freedom abroad and decide to languish and possibly die in a thai jail? or is he just more stupid than the red bull boss?

I think we can safely say he was given assurances but whether they will materialize, we will have to see. I think they will. I don't think we will see him spend a single day behind bars. 

[kiwikeith]

20 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Because he says so?

I wonder how many other sickly prisoner cases he felt the need to speak out on, and tell people not to question or speculate on this rather dubious state of affairs!

Only the one's with leprosy.