Just now, Danny Australia said:

 

Ignoring everything that led to the events of October 7th is absurd and doesn't make sense.

 

What happened prior to that date provides context for the events that unfolded.

 

You can choose to disregard the context if you wish, but doing so will not give you a clear view of the entire picture. As the head of the UN stated, the events on the 7th of October did not occur in a vacuum.

 

   Its tiring explaining the basics .

No one is ignoring the evens that happened before 7 th October 

Its like talking to children 

2 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

 

Ignoring everything that led to the events of October 7th is absurd and doesn't make sense.

 

What happened prior to that date provides context for the events that unfolded.

 

You can choose to disregard the context if you wish, but doing so will not give you a clear view of the entire picture. As the head of the UN stated, the events on the 7th of October did not occur in a vacuum.

Even the UN head stated there is NO justification for the 7/10 attacks, this is about what has happened since.

37 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

It appears that whether a particular act is a war crime or not depends upon who the perpetrator is.

You've already proudly admitted you redefine actions to mean whatever you want them to mean, why should war crimes be any different? 

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So much wrong with that vile antisemitic post but for starters Israel doesn't occupy Gaza and October 7 was the biggest massacre of non military Jews since the holocaust. 

What was antisemitic about Danny Australia's post?

 

He is just saying what he sees is happening now and a little bit of history.

 

Best not to attach labels Jingthing.

6 hours ago, Danny Australia said:

 

Ignoring everything that led to the events of October 7th is absurd and doesn't make sense.

 

What happened prior to that date provides context for the events that unfolded.

 

You can choose to disregard the context if you wish, but doing so will not give you a clear view of the entire picture. As the head of the UN stated, the events on the 7th of October did not occur in a vacuum.

I don't make the rules of this forum, should you not want to adhere to them is entirely up to you, start your own topic if you wish to wander off into the world of whataboutery.

31 minutes ago, transam said:

Your bunch of murderers ignored International laws, did you forget...? 

My bunch of murderers?

 

For me, the murderers are Hamas and the IDF

For you, the murderers are Hamas alone

 

So I guess you are correct, my bunch (both Hamas and the IDF) ignored and continue to ignore international laws.

1 minute ago, owl sees all said:

What was antisemitic about Danny Australia's post?

 

He is just saying what he sees is happening now and a little bit of history.

 

Best not to attach labels Jingthing.

 

  Claiming that Israelis/ Jews are Nazis is considered to be an anti semiotic statement , officially 

1 minute ago, MrMojoRisin said:

My bunch of murderers?

 

For me, the murderers are Hamas and the IDF

For you, the murderers are Hamas alone

 

So I guess you are correct, my bunch (both Hamas and the IDF) ignored and continue to ignore international laws.

 

   Changing words again to make them suit your agenda .

Hamas committed murder , multiple times . illegal war crimes 

Israel responded legally , legally killing the enemy, which makes it not murder 

58 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

 

The war had started much earlier than 7 October 2023, it began when Israel illegally occupied the West bank and Gaza and kept building -ever since- illegal settlements on occupied land.

 

Real animals and war criminals are Netanyahu and his army who have killed so far close to 4,000 children alone in just over 3 weeks in their pursuit of revenge for perceived humiliations inflicted by a few hundred lightly armed fighters.

 

Targeting women, children, press, hospitals, schools, places of worship, houses etc. is nothing but State Terrorism at its worst. And you calling the other party animals?

 

They were occupied as a result of Israel being attacked. Israel left Gaza in 2005 and look what happened, muslims used it as a launching pad for yet more war, so why ever give up the west bank for more of the same?

32 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Does that make any sense ?

Could you simplify that a bit to make it more understandable ?

It is easy to understand.

Israel and its backers have managed to restrict the discussion of the war to the boundaries of their choosing. This means topics such as Israel abhorrent behaviour prior to October 7th, the root cause of the attacks, are being suppressed via the threat of cancellation to anyone not toeing the correct imposed line. Even the UN General Secretary is not immune to this pressure, as witnessed by his recent walking back of his comments assigning blame to Israel (no vacuum).

10 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

If I steal your car and then you later on repossess it - have you then stolen my car?

If you steal my car, and I later rape your daughter while you are forced to watch, then I gut cut your baby out of your wife, and set them both on fire, and then I kill you and burn your house down, are we square? 

8 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

What was antisemitic about Danny Australia's post?

 

He is just saying what he sees is happening now and a little bit of history.

 

Best not to attach labels Jingthing.

Equating Israeli government policies with Nazis.

Absurdly minimizing October 7.

When the labels fit they fit.

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Claiming that Israelis/ Jews are Nazis is considered to be an anti semiotic statement , officially 

OK Nick. I hear you. But he didn't say that.

1 minute ago, MrMojoRisin said:

It is easy to understand.

Israel and its backers have managed to restrict the discussion of the war to the boundaries of their choosing. This means topics such as Israel abhorrent behaviour prior to October 7th, the root cause of the attacks, are being suppressed via the threat of cancellation to anyone not toeing the correct imposed line. Even the UN General Secretary is not immune to this pressure, as witnessed by his recent walking back of his comments assigning blame to Israel (no vacuum).

 

  Nothing has been restricted , you can talk about anything you like .

You and your gang have been talking non stop about things tht happened  prior to October 7 th ..........................and now you are saying that you cannot talk about them !!!!!!!!!!!

    This current war began on October 7 th 

There were wars in 1948 , 1967 and 1973 

You cannot yourself decide when a war started 

 

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Equating Israeli government policies with Nazis.

Absurdly minimizing October 7.

When the labels fit they fit.

Many onlookers feel that the Israel authorities are killing children and women indiscriminately.

 

 

Just now, owl sees all said:

Many onlookers feel that the Israel authorities are killing children and women indiscriminately.

 

What onlookers? And if they were indeed looking on, how would they know? 

34 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Well done MoJo you have Achieved the goal you started of destroying this thread which you set out to do nice one well done.

You are a strange one.

2 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Many onlookers feel that the Israel authorities are killing children and women indiscriminately.

 

 

who feels this and where is the evidence? if they wanted to do that why give warning of bombings and days to evacuate areas?

5 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Many onlookers feel that the Israel authorities are killing children and women indiscriminately.

 

 

Then blame Hamas.

They started this war October 7.

Israel targets military targets.

Hamas uses human shields.

 

4 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

OK Nick. I hear you. But he didn't say that.

 

   He did post it , I just looked back and it has been removed 

31 minutes ago, transam said:

You are going round in circles............😂

 

And you are avoiding answering very simple questions.

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   He did post it , I just looked back and it has been removed 

Correct, its been edited out

6 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

My bunch of murderers?

 

For me, the murderers are Hamas and the IDF

For you, the murderers are Hamas alone

 

So I guess you are correct, my bunch (both Hamas and the IDF) ignored and continue to ignore international laws.

Seems you don't know the difference between a countries armed forces and a bunch of terrorists.....

You are also ignorant of what happens in war between combatants, try watching the very old "The World at War" series, it might educate you.

 

Off-topic but, was in a car in N.Italy around 1970 with an Italian friend, in a village he pointed out a stone plaque, he said that is to commemorate the villagers who were shot by the Germans when they were retreating, yes, villagers whose country were a short while before alias with the Germans........

 

Wars are not simple affairs, especially for civilians....

Just now, Yellowtail said:

 

What onlookers? And if they were indeed looking on, how would they know? 

People that are not involved but just looking from the wings.

 

Think Zionism should be divorced from the Jewish religion. It's the Zionists in both Israel and the US that allowed all this, and want it to continue. Maybe that's why there is no cease-fire.

6 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Correct, its been edited out

Correct, I checked it about 15 minutes ago and the Nazi reference was still there.

12 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

It is easy to understand.

Israel and its backers have managed to restrict the discussion of the war to the boundaries of their choosing. This means topics such as Israel abhorrent behaviour prior to October 7th, the root cause of the attacks, are being suppressed via the threat of cancellation to anyone not toeing the correct imposed line. Even the UN General Secretary is not immune to this pressure, as witnessed by his recent walking back of his comments assigning blame to Israel (no vacuum).

Next you will be spouting that Iran, Hezbollah are the good guys.....

33 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

  Laugh out loud , just LOL 

The truth is now dependant on how many results come up on a google search 🙂

I just did a google search for "I am very clever"

I got 437 000 000 results 

Me and Einstein have similarities . 

   You are seriously saying that the amount of results a google search brings up means its true 

I am done with this idiocy and I cannot believe I am talking about this 

 

Einstein and I.

5 minutes ago, proton said:

who feels this and where is the evidence? if they wanted to do that why give warning of bombings and days to evacuate areas?

 

Plenty of people all over the world.

4 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

People that are not involved but just looking from the wings.

 

Think Zionism should be divorced from the Jewish religion. It's the Zionists in both Israel and the US that allowed all this, and want it to continue. Maybe that's why there is no cease-fire.

Hamas just wants to kill Jewish people period. Zionist. Religious  Atheist  You name it.

6 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

I certainly don't agree stone throwing boys should be met with lethal force.

 

You said:

 

homicidal genocidal misogynistic fanatic terrorist was getting ready to deploy a weapon at me

 

Some years back (well, more than 'some') these was one of these Israel-Palestine topics on, with one of the sub-issues on the menu being Israel's change of ROE with regard to stone throwing. There were a lot of negative comments on that from posters.

 

About a couple of weeks later, there was a string of stone throwing at cars near Ayhuthaya, with several accidents resulting in injuries (possibly a death, can't recall). There were many calls for capital punishment or treating it like attempted murder from the forum's patrons.

 

Sugar pie, may your car never be hit with a half block while speeding. May the other half block not be lobbed at your precious head with the resulting consequences.

 

Then again, hardly likely to be a risk factor for a keyboard warrior.