Just now, Thorgal said:

 

I've heard that the DIY Hamas RPG can penetrate minimal 200 millimeters steel.

 

They also have Russian Kornet replica's that can penetrate minimal 1.200 millimeters of steel.

 

What kind of new reinforced concrete (RI)  fence do you have in mind?

 

I think only the Israeli Navy eliminated all improvised threats from the beaches.

"I've heard" well we can't argue with proof like that. 😂😂😂

Does the responsibily to relocate Israelis lie with the UK or US?

 

1 hour ago, Thorgal said:

 

It's Islamophobic...

You mean, 'you' are upset.......................🤗

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Wow, did he really do that?

 

Islamaphobia is rampant on this thread, yet they shout out antisemite at any opportunity. Hypocrite.

Oh, no............😬

5 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

I've heard that the DIY Hamas RPG can penetrate minimal 200 millimeters steel.

 

They also have Russian Kornet replica's that can penetrate minimal 1.200 millimeters of steel.

 

What kind of new reinforced concrete (RI)  fence do you have in mind?

 

I think only the Israeli Navy eliminated all improvised threats from the beaches.

 

   I have no idea, it isn't my job to make Israel secure from terrorists , that's the job of the Israeli ministry of defence and I will let them deal with that issue .

   The Palsedtians did quite well to smuggle wall penetrating RPG's into their concentration camp in Gaza , if only the Jews in their concentration camp in Auschwitz had the same ability as the Palestinians  have 

5 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

"I've heard" well we can't argue with proof like that. 😂😂😂

 

For beginners :

 

Quote from link :

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasin_(RPG)

 

 

"According to fighters from Popular Resistance Committees's Saladin brigades, the Yasin was able to take down a Merkava Mk. 3 on an undisclosed date by firing it at a "weak point".[2] However, it is more effective in urban warfare, able to destroy brick walls and penetrate a 21 cm steel plate from 150 meters,[2] although the ITIC suggests 200 mm (20 cm).[16]"

8 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

"I've heard" well we can't argue with proof like that. 😂😂😂

 

Quote from link :

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M133_Kornet

 

1,000–1,200 mm of RHA behind ERA
3–3.5 m of concrete

 

 

"On 4 September 2023, a video emerged from Robotyne which showed the first combat loss of the Challenger 2 tank.^[72] The tank was immobilized by a mine, then hit by a 9M133 Kornet missile and burst into flames, its turret was separated from the vehicle and the commanders cupola was blown off.^[73] 

 

Russian state-controlled news agency TASS reported on 8 September that two British-made tanks had been destroyed by Kornets.^[74]

In October 2023, Hezbollah used Kornet missiles during engagements with Israeli forces after the onset of the 2023 Israel-Hamas War."

And there was me thinking the main disruptor had had his wings clipped Number 2 and 3 get up off the Subs bench to take his place.

Just watched the Video of the Animal firing an MPG  from close range sickening to watch.

12 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

And there was me thinking the main disruptor had had his wings clipped Number 2 and 3 get up off the Subs bench to take his place.

Only a matter of time.

Just now, Thorgal said:

 

For beginners :

 

Quote from link :

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasin_(RPG)

 

 

"According to fighters from Popular Resistance Committees's Saladin brigades, the Yasin was able to take down a Merkava Mk. 3 on an undisclosed date by firing it at a "weak point".[2] However, it is more effective in urban warfare, able to destroy brick walls and penetrate a 21 cm steel plate from 150 meters,[2] although the ITIC suggests 200 mm (20 cm).[16]"

You appear very excited that Palestinian terrorists have weapons to murder Israelis, is that not all the more reason these sick sadists need liquidising.

who in there right mind thinks you can have a dialogue with these Animals?

I watched a program last night where a live audience can ask Questions to MPs and people more clever than us. One asked in the end game when Hamas is finished what happens to Gaza? not many on the panel had an answer just what does happen? Will Gaza be bulldozed and rebuilt and if so by who.

3 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

You appear very excited that Palestinian terrorists have weapons to murder Israelis, is that not all the more reason these sick sadists need liquidising.

 

I'm not exited at all. I'm just answering your question.

 

Many RPG parts are DIY from melted scrap. 

Rocket propellant is made from sugar and fertilizer. Not the fuel used in cars or generators as suggested by other posters before that Hamas claimed hospital generator fuel for rockets.

 

Hamas had 15 years preparations. If I was an Israeli General I would never start a ground offensive. I repeat NEVER.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

May I suggest you read my posts instead of arguing with things I haven't said?

Nowhere did I say that Israel should 'just ignore' anything, quite the opposite.

My comment was with regard to the level of threat - it is not an existential one, Hamas is not going to 'destroy' Israel.

 

Israel never 'ceded Hamas territory' as far as I'm aware, so not sure how 'again' relates.

There is no danger of Israel being 'abolished' by Hamas.

Hamas may want many things, doesn't mean they are going to happen, or that it can make them happen.

You and I both have no idea what you are talking about.

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

I've no idea what you're on with this 'one side' bit, sorry.

Whether Israel labeled it a 'war', a 'military operation' or whatever is not germane to what's going on.

 

You can go on repeating gung ho slogans, that's fine. If you wish to ignore that totally eradicating Hamas will not happen, or that there are negotiations afoot, or that there are other options discussed - that's fine as well.

Great - I am so glad that you are fine with my views - even though you have no idea what they are.

10 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

who in there right mind thinks you can have a dialogue with these Animals?

Morch !!

We have all witnessed what happens when you try and help with terrorists Grumpy you could quite literally lose your head.

8 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Morch !!

 

He hasn’t said that, and your comment is unfair; he has indicated that some negotiations might be happening that are not in the public domain, albeit through third parties like Qatar; you would do well to remember that they are trying to save the lives and secure the release of over 200 hostages. I hope you don’t need the alternative explained.

In other news Israel forces have now surrounded Gaza City. Watch for the Rabbits bolting out of the Tunnels once the ferret has been sent in to flush them out.

6 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

I watched a program last night where a live audience can ask Questions to MPs and people more clever than us. One asked in the end game when Hamas is finished what happens to Gaza? not many on the panel had an answer just what does happen? Will Gaza be bulldozed and rebuilt and if so by who.

IMO it will be massively bulldozed and then Israel will resume 'occupation' and manage the rebuild very very closely.

Hamas has been conducting terrorist activities for decades, saying that Israel occupies their lands (even though they have no lands).

Well now they are going to experience exactly that - Israel occupying the land that was given to them by I.

 

Apparently a lot of posters have no idea of history and the truth that surrounds Hamas and the Gaza Strip.

I know a lot of that ignorance is because they listen/watch woke progressive liberals, who are always looking for a new 'oppressed group' to virtue signal their superiority over 'unenlighted people' (the majority).  So if any of them are willing to learn and perhaps realiuse they have been mislead, then I provide the following for them.

 

Gaza–Israel conflict - Wikipedia

 

Israeli disengagement from Gaza - Wikipedia

 

And lastly, an interview with the son of one of Hamas' co-founders.

 

 

46 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Does the responsibily to relocate Israelis lie with the UK or US?

 

Have you revoked your British passport yet?

40 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

Russian state-controlled news agency TASS reported on 8 September that two British-made tanks had been destroyed by Kornets.^[74]

In October 2023, Hezbollah used Kornet missiles during engagements with Israeli forces after the onset of the 2023 Israel-Hamas War."

Tass again. 

Just now, Thorgal said:

 

I'm not exited at all. I'm just answering your question.

 

Many RPG parts are DIY from melted scrap. 

Rocket propellant is made from sugar and fertilizer. Not the fuel used in cars or generators as suggested by other posters before that Hamas claimed hospital generator fuel for rockets.

 

Hamas had 15 years preparations. If I was an Israeli General I would never start a ground offensive. I repeat NEVER.

 

 

 

If the Israelis (imo) do not start a ground offensive and rid the world of these evil sadists they will again and again attack and murder Israelis. The Israelis are legally bound to protect their own citizens and other than eliminating these evil animals what other choice have they got. Hamas has stated it will never stop killing Israelis untill Israel no longer exists, not a nice time to be Jewish! 

3 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

IMO it will be massively bulldozed and then Israel will resume 'occupation' and manage the rebuild very very closely.

Hamas has been conducting terrorist activities for decades, saying that Israel occupies their lands (even though they have no lands).

Well now they are going to experience exactly that - Israel occupying the land that was given to them by I.

 

Apparently a lot of posters have no idea of history and the truth that surrounds Hamas and the Gaza Strip.

I know a lot of that ignorance is because they listen/watch woke progressive liberals, who are always looking for a new 'oppressed group' to virtue signal their superiority over 'unenlighted people' (the majority).  So if any of them are willing to learn and perhaps realiuse they have been mislead, then I provide the following for them.

 

Gaza–Israel conflict - Wikipedia

 

Israeli disengagement from Gaza - Wikipedia

 

And lastly, an interview with the son of one of Hamas' co-founders.

 

 

Good video, Piers Morgan has had some wonderful interviews on this conflict recently.

15 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Great news! 

 

A French General commented on the ground invasion of Gaza in terms of difficulty and area control :

 

If you liked Mariupol and Bachmut, you gonna love Gaza.

2 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

He hasn’t said that, and your comment is unfair; he has indicated that some negotiations might be happening that are not in the public domain, albeit through third parties like Qatar; you would do well to remember that they are trying to save the lives and secure the release of over 200 hostages. I hope you don’t need the alternative explained.

 

So you are Morch's Mother?  Father??   Or are you a 'second' account ??

Careful if you are a second - they can check your IP and MAC - and ban you for life.

 

Now answering your rubbish.  If Israel stops to allow hostage negotaitions, Hamas will re-arm and in the future do this again.

Likewise, Hezbolla PIJ PLFP etc etc etc will all take heart and do similar things.

The destruction of Hamas and much of Gaza will stop other terrorists follwing in Hamas' footprints.

 

This guy is the Proverbial Dead Man Walking.

2 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

This guy is the Proverbial Dead Man Walking.

Seems i have to explain this post due to someone posting a Confused Emoji. A dead man walking is a phrase meaning you will have made enemies who will silence you permanently.

5 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

A French General commented on the ground invasion of Gaza in terms of difficulty and area control :

 

If you liked Mariupol and Bachmut, you gonna love Gaza.

Why would a French general know more than the IDF?